John Bunyan's Methods of a full salvation

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John Bunyan's Methods of a full salvation... In which the witness of the Spirit is picked up at the Porter's House. And how I would teach the doctrine....

1. Salvation - As the Christian leaves the City of Destruction and makes his way to the Celestial City.
2. Sanctification - At the interpreter's house
3. The Witness of the Spirit - At the porter's house

The City of Destruction The place where evangelists set people on their journey to the Celestial City
The Slough of Despair This represents the mire that well intentioned religious people bring to the way
Legalities Mountain The enemy attempt to indoctrinate pilgrims with doctrine designed to inhibit spiritual light
Plain of Instruction The evangelist sets the pilgrim on the right direction from the “Mr. Worldly Wiseman”
The Wicket Gate The sinners prayer. Salvation.... The pilgrim now enters into the Lord’s country
The Interpreters House This is a time of instruction where caring people instruct and disciple. Sanctification.
Porters House The journey to a higher place where one receives the witness of the spirit.
Valley of Humiliation Time for some trials and testing!
Valley of the Shadow of Death Time to overcome the wicked one!
Vanity Fair Discipled and proven Christians now witness to their present world.
Doubting Castle Christians choose path that takes them down to the terrible giant despair.
Lucre Mountain Temptations of material goods
Demas Silver Mines Represents those trapped by their material possessions and come to a place of all work.
Delectable Mountains Represents revival and a season of refreshing
An Entangling Net The flatterers will try to flatter pilgrims unto a place of high minded spiritual bondage
Enchanted Ground ground to a sound spiritual sleep!
Beulah Land Experienced Christian faith, hope, and charity that shine brightly night and day!
Great River The river flows through various places in the Pilgrims Progress and represents death.
Final Destination After crossing the river, either the Celestial City or the Underworld… Which will it be?
 

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John Bunyan's "Grace Abounding" is a very insightful account of his struggle from receiving Christ to actual assurance of Salvation. It is a good antidote to the "easy-believerism" of our day.
 
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John Bunyan's "Grace Abounding" is a very insightful account of his struggle from receiving Christ to actual assurance of Salvation. It is a good antidote to the "easy-believerism" of our day.
 
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John Bunyan's "Grace Abounding" is a very insightful account of his struggle from receiving Christ to actual assurance of Salvation. It is a good antidote to the "easy-believerism" of our day.
Don't forget that John Bunyan was a Baptist.
 
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Don't forget that John Bunyan was a Baptist.
Yes. He didn't subscribe to the false gospel of the established church and that is why he endured many years in prison for his faith.
 
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Don't forget that John Bunyan was a Baptist.
John Bunyan was not a Baptist. I have read his entire library and the only reference he made on denomination was that, "some men call me anabaptist."
 
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Yes. He didn't subscribe to the false gospel of the established church and that is why he endured many years in prison for his faith.
Yes... Correct! Not an established church guy! Nonconformist is the closest fit!
 
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Yes... Correct! Not an established church guy! Nonconformist is the closest fit!
While reading "Grace Abounding" I noticed that God spoke to him by bible verses. I found that interesting because that is how God speaks to me. If I am having a discussion with Him about an issue, He often puts a Bible verse into my mind to clarify His position the matter.

I have had a problem with a particular "controlling" person in my church, and I took six months off from attending to "recharge my batteries". I went to church last Sunday to hear a visiting preacher, and I was asked (as an elder of the church) to pray for the speaker before the service. As I went to pray, the Lord said, "When you stand praying, forgive". Then I had to confess to my brothers in Christ that I had trouble forgiving the man and I now have to forgive him completely and support him, even though I may not agree with his methods (he wasn't present at the time). This is how God speaks to me - right out of His Word.
 
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Yes. He didn't subscribe to the false gospel of the established church and that is why he endured many years in prison for his faith.
And what exactly was the false gospel of the Church of England at that time, please?

Be specific.
 
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And what exactly was the false gospel of the Church of England at that time, please?

Be specific.
Infant baptism, observance of the sacraments, and membership of the Church of England.

John Bunyan believed that every person needed to receive Christ as Saviour, seek God for the full converted work of the Holy Spirit bringing assurance of salvation, and adult baptism by full immersion.
 
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That's called Christianity.

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If infant baptism is a dedication of the infant, that is okay; but if it is believed that the infant is regenerated and born again, that is false doctrine not found in the New Testament.
 
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Infant baptism, observance of the sacraments, and membership of the Church of England.

John Bunyan believed that every person needed to receive Christ as Saviour, seek God for the full converted work of the Holy Spirit bringing assurance of salvation, and adult baptism by full immersion.
Nowhere does the Bible say we are to receive Christ as Savior.

While we normally baptize by triple immersion, common sense tell you there are times when immersion is impossible. What then?

St. Paul talked about baptizing the "household of Stephanas". Is there anywhere in the Bible where "household" does not include children and even slaves and servants?
 
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Nowhere does the Bible say we are to receive Christ as Savior.

While we normally baptize by triple immersion, common sense tell you there are times when immersion is impossible. What then?

St. Paul talked about baptizing the "household of Stephanas". Is there anywhere in the Bible where "household" does not include children and even slaves and servants?
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. - Romans 5:11
Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. - Romans 15:7
As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: - Colossians 3:6
The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. - Romans 10:9-13

- I have received Christ into my heart and know my salvation is sure.
 
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Nowhere does the Bible say we are to receive Christ as Savior.

While we normally baptize by triple immersion, common sense tell you there are times when immersion is impossible. What then?

St. Paul talked about baptizing the "household of Stephanas". Is there anywhere in the Bible where "household" does not include children and even slaves and servants?
"But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1:12-13).

You must have a different Bible than the one I have. Baptism whether infant or adult is meaningless and valueless if it is done just as a religious ceremony.
 
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Paul also seems to play down baptizing....

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. - 1 Corinthians 1:14-18

Not to say that the baptism (notice the doctrine of baptisms.... Plural) is not important...

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. - Hebrews 6:1-2
 
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