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I was in another thread and someone was posting that the sin nature was not something Christians had. Of course, I disagreed, so I started a new thread.
The first reason I disagree is because I am born again by the Holy Spirit, and my body as a separate entity that is like an earthly tent, still has sinful thoughts, impulses, etc. I find to ignore it like it's not there, is unhealthy, so I started a thread to discuss the content of Romans 7.
Another point of disagreement is the interpretation of
8:1 ¶ There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
I see Romans 7 (leading up to 8:1) illustrating the consciousness that is generated from the body from the old person we were before being born again. Since we were not given new bodies, just a new spirit, there's a conflict. Romans 8:1 with the whole verse there, (not just half) illustrates the choice to live according to the Holy Spirit or the consciousness the physical body generates. And we kind of reap what we sow right?
Since when I read something like this and get frustrated that there's no application involved, I'd suggest 1 John 1:9 for dealing with the sin.
In terms of dealing with witchcraft once the body gets "wifi capabilities" metaphorically, 1 John 1:9 works when it's just sin, but if the sin matures to death or worse status, that's another discussion altogether.
So anyway, this is a discussion on Romans 7 and it's context, you can use the whole bible if you want. And feel free to speak of your own experience as well.
God bless.
The first reason I disagree is because I am born again by the Holy Spirit, and my body as a separate entity that is like an earthly tent, still has sinful thoughts, impulses, etc. I find to ignore it like it's not there, is unhealthy, so I started a thread to discuss the content of Romans 7.
Another point of disagreement is the interpretation of
8:1 ¶ There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
I see Romans 7 (leading up to 8:1) illustrating the consciousness that is generated from the body from the old person we were before being born again. Since we were not given new bodies, just a new spirit, there's a conflict. Romans 8:1 with the whole verse there, (not just half) illustrates the choice to live according to the Holy Spirit or the consciousness the physical body generates. And we kind of reap what we sow right?
Since when I read something like this and get frustrated that there's no application involved, I'd suggest 1 John 1:9 for dealing with the sin.
In terms of dealing with witchcraft once the body gets "wifi capabilities" metaphorically, 1 John 1:9 works when it's just sin, but if the sin matures to death or worse status, that's another discussion altogether.
So anyway, this is a discussion on Romans 7 and it's context, you can use the whole bible if you want. And feel free to speak of your own experience as well.
God bless.