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ewq1938 said:

It's "the grave for the unsaved dead".

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ac28 said:

It's the grave for everybody, unless you believe in the totally unbiblical pagan hell. The only difference in the saved and unsaved, in the grave, is that the unsaved never wake up. The saved surely don't go to Heaven when they die. No one has ever gone to Heaven except Christ, John 3:13. Even David is still in the grave, Acts 2:29, 34

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ac28 said:

The Bible doesn't say the parable starting in Luke 16:1 is a parable, but it certainly is one

. Every parable is a FICTITIOUS NARRATIVE, according to Strong's. This MUST be a PARABLE because Christ told it to the Pharisees/Multitude and during and after Mt 13, Christ spoke to the Pharisees/multitude ONLY in PARABLES, PERIOD!!! Matthew 13:34 , Mark 4:34 . NO Parable is EVER true. If it were true, it wouldn't be a parable, by definition. What was in this parable was what the Pharisees' Satanic oral traditions taught them about the pagan concept of Hell, as proven in Josephus' (Josephus was a Pharisee), "Discourse on Hades." This parable was a story made-up by Christ for 2 reasons
(1) To insult the Pharisees for pacifying the poor by telling them that, since they had it bad while alive, they would have it good after they died. Christ turned the tables on them by saying those that had it good in life (the rich) would have it bad after death. This is proven by the total absurdity of Luke 16:25
(2) To insult the Pharisees for their stupid ideas about the existence if hell.

NO, Jesus did not say, "Today you will be with Me in paradise." According to the Bibles that have the comma in the right place in Luke 23:43 (after Today, not before Today), Christ said, "I say unto you Today, you shall be with Me in paradise." This is an idiom that we still use today, like when you say to your kids, "I'm telling you right now, you better....." This idiom appears 42 times in Deuteronomy. The original texts had no punctuation. Punctuation was added by man. I can't believe that many bibles still put the comma before the word before Today. There is zero proof that paradise has ever yet existed. The malefactor on the cross had no calling and all saved people throughout history with no calling go through the white throne judgement and end up on the New Earth, which is called PARADISE in Revelation. The malefactor will eventually be in paradise, on the New Earth, with Christ, just like it says in the Bible.

Anyone that thinks Christ died that day, traveled through space to the non-existent paradise to say Hi to the malefactor, (who somehow skipped going to the grave and going through the requirement of resurrection), and then returned to the earth in time, before sunset, to go to the grave - I have this bridge for sale. Remember that John 3:13 , which was written after Christ's death and still applies today, says that NO ONE, except Christ, has EVER gone to Heaven. Everyone that has ever died is still in the grave.

Most modern Bibles contain the same 3 large errors. I'm convinced they know these are errors, but leave them in to sell more Bibles.
(1) Any Bible that contains the word "hell" as the translation of 4 totally unrelated Greek and Hebrew words, is in error. However, people love to hear about the fake hellfire and brimstone. Some Baptists think you're not saved if you don't believe in hell.
(2) Any Bible that puts the comma before the word"Today" in Luke 23:43 , is in error, for more reasons than I've mentioned. Of course, since many people believe the lie that people go to Heaven immediately after they die, as taught by the corrupt Denominational Church (Synagogue) System, and is largely based on the error of the comma being in the wrong place in this verse, fewer Bibles would be sold if they corrected it.
(3) In 2 Timothy 2:15 , the word "dividing" in the phrase, "rightly dividing" means CUTTING and, of this, there is no doubt. Also, it says that what you MUST CUT, in order to be approved unto God, is His WORD, the SCRIPTURES. Many modern Bibles, including the horrible ESV that's used on this forum, have wimpified that word and, instead, used a word like, "handling." This totally destroys the meaning of that all-important verse. The Word must be cut, divided, and partially eliminated, in order to prevent contradictory statements, as to what things belong to the Jews and what things belong to us Gentiles today - they are rarely the same. Of course, many unknowledgeable people don't like the idea of cutting up the Bible, even when they're commanded to.

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