Is libertarianism compatible with Catholicism?

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I think capital-L Libertarianism is too relativistic to be compatible with Catholicism. We adhere to moral absolutes, and strict Libertarianism puts "liberty" ahead of anything else. Abortion comes to mind. Libertarianism would say "not on my dime, but do it on your own if you want", which displays a lukewarmness on the issue which the Church won't permit.
 
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I mean, I know people who are both, but I'm curious if libertarianism is truly compatible with the teachings of the Church? Teachings like solidarity and subsidiarity, etc.
I don't think so. Libertarianism seems to be all about autonomy. And I don't think there can be an autonomous Catholicism. There are autonomous Protestants, but I don't think that really works. And the reason is that Christian faith is one of solidarity, the opposite of autonomy.
 
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I mean, I know people who are both, but I'm curious if libertarianism is truly compatible with the teachings of the Church? Teachings like solidarity and subsidiarity, etc.
"Libertarian" is a broad term; especially as the party gains ground, different people's ideas on libertarianism can differ drastically. Certain policies, such as the aforementioned pro-choice stance, are certainly incompatible, but I know people who consider themselves Libertarian who are strongly pro-life. Libertarian, like any other title, may be used to say, "I agree with most of what this party or mindset says, and align myself closer to this than anything else."

Related: Here's an article, written in the style of the Screwtape Letters, that discusses the demonization of authority: The Demonization of Authority is Useful to the Demons

May God bless us all, especially our politicians & voters; have peace & pray!
 
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Libertarianism is a less developed system than Communism. It can be Right or Left.

The only choice is between God(Omega Point) or Communism(Satan, Tech Singularity).

I'd like Whiggism but it's pretty much dead and not compatible(although sympathetic) with Catholicism, Calvinism, or Anglicanism.
 
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In the 90s, I was a card-carrying Libertarian. At that time, the Party didn't believe in moral relativism. In order to join, you had to agree to the Non-Aggression Principle, which says that it is immoral to initiate or threaten force except to protect people from violent and property crime. I left because I couldn't see how any government at all could be justified under that principle.

Since then, the party has been co-opted by progressives. For example, now we have left-libertarians, who want a free market and liberty in general, but want government to smooth over some of the negative effects of the free market. Apart from the question of how do you do that without forcible intervention, a key principle of the original libertarianism is that just because something is bad doesn't mean we're justified in using force to prevent it. You may be thinking at this point that Libertarianism isn't a coherent philosophy, and you may be right about that.

That said, our concept of subsidiarity is sufficient if put into practice to prevent the abuses of big government that Libertarianism arose in response to. None of this really works without Natural Law anyway, and while Libertarians did have a form of it, without God at the base of it, there's not a stable foundation for it, which may be as good an explanation as any of what happened.
 
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In the 90s, I was a card-carrying Libertarian. At that time, the Party didn't believe in moral relativism. In order to join, you had to agree to the Non-Aggression Principle, which says that it is immoral to initiate or threaten force except to protect people from violent and property crime. I left because I couldn't see how any government at all could be justified under that principle.

Since then, the party has been co-opted by progressives. For example, now we have left-libertarians, who want a free market and liberty in general, but want government to smooth over some of the negative effects of the free market. Apart from the question of how do you do that without forcible intervention, a key principle of the original libertarianism is that just because something is bad doesn't mean we're justified in using force to prevent it. You may be thinking at this point that Libertarianism isn't a coherent philosophy, and you may be right about that.

That said, our concept of subsidiarity is sufficient if put into practice to prevent the abuses of big government that Libertarianism arose in response to. None of this really works without Natural Law anyway, and while Libertarians did have a form of it, without God at the base of it, there's not a stable foundation for it, which may be as good an explanation as any of what happened.
So it looks like we need a politics that is small government, pro-freedom, promotes subsidiarity and solidarity, and is informed by Natural Law.
 
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