"Distinction Theology?"

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The appellation of “sojourners” does not necessarily imply that this letter was written to none but Jewish believers. In Scripture all religious persons are called “sojourners and strangers,” because they do not consider this earth as their home, but look for a better country. Therefore, in writing to the Gentile believers, Peter might call them “sojourners,” as well as the Jews.
Galatians 2:7
But on the contrary, seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised 8 (for He who effectually worked for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised effectually worked for me also to the Gentiles)

Peter was called to the Jews, Paul was called to the Gentiles.
 
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Jews that reject Jesus are lost.....not limited!!!
Please be mindful that you are in the Messianic folder.

I would submit they are both. Just because they are not "saved" does not mean God cannot use them.
 
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Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
 
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Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Again, talking about salvation.

That does NOT address differing functions within the Redeemed community for Jews and Gentiles. That is NOT a salvic issue.

[rant] Where did everyone get the idea that the ONLY thing talked about the NT was how to get saved? 90% of it is about how to live AFTER you are saved. [/rant]
 
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Willful ignorance is ignorance just the same.
The church has been "ignorant" of her own foundation since the mid 100s ad. She got "arrogant against the root" just as Paul instructed against in Romans 11.

BTW - I knew Derek Prince personally. But he is off topic in this thread.
 
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Galatians 2:7
But on the contrary, seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised 8 (for He who effectually worked for Peter in his apostleship to the circumcised effectually worked for me also to the Gentiles)

Peter was called to the Jews, Paul was called to the Gentiles.

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The appellation of “sojourners” does not necessarily imply that this letter was written to none but Jewish believers. In Scripture all religious persons are called “sojourners and strangers,” because they do not consider this earth as their home, but look for a better country. Therefore, in writing to the Gentile believers, Peter might call them “sojourners,” as well as the Jews.

Your point is quite beside the point!!
 
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Call it what you will, but I think that "replacement theology" is a bad way of labelling what the Bible actually teaches.
Except the bible NEVER teaches that.

From another article in the same publication: (page 15)

Simple Substitutions
The assumptions of replacement theology are part and parcel of church teaching and the very warp and woof of Christian doctrine. The most obvious tenets of replacement theology are axiomatic:

■■ The New Testament replaces the Old Testament.
■■ The church replaces Israel.
■■ Christians replace Jews.
■■ The Lord’s Day (Sunday) replaces the Sabbath.
■■ The Lord’s Supper (Eucharist) replaces Passover.

Those are some of the obvious, surface-level substitutions propagated by replacement theology, but that’s just the beginning. Replacement theology completely subverts the Temple, the priesthood, and the Levitical worship system:

■■ The death of Jesus replaces the sacrifices.
■■ The body of Christ replaces the Temple.
■■ The Christian priesthood (or clergy) replaces the Levitical priesthood (non-Protestant).
■■ The priesthood of Jesus replaces the Levitical priesthood (Protestant).

Replacement theology also disregards the idea of a literal fulfillment of the prophecies about the restoration of the Jewish people in the land of Israel. In other words, there is no coming Messianic Era; the church is the Messianic Era. There is no future physical restoration of Israel because the church has replaced Israel, and therefore the prophecies about the coming kingdom are fulfilled in the church and, ultimately, in going to heaven:

■■ The promise of heaven replaces the promised land.
■■ Going to heaven replaces the kingdom of heaven (the Messianic Era).
■■ The church replaces the kingdom of heaven.

Replacement theology is all about “out with the old and in with the new.” It posits that all these old things were replaced when Jesus came and died and rose from the dead. The good news, the “gospel message,” according to replacement theology, is that God has replaced all the old systems with the new system. When stated as succinctly as that, it’s easy to sympathize with Jewish people who reject the gospel. Jews must surely think it puzzling that we would present the New Testament, which ostensibly replaces Judaism and all Jewish religious institutions and functions, as good news for Israel. Where’s the good news in the replacement-theology version of the good news? Israel has been replaced, the Torah has been canceled, and God’s covenant with the Jewish people is over. Adding insult to the injury, replacement theology posits that Jewish people’s relationship with God has been replaced by a new order and mechanism for salvation, thereby damning most Jews to eternity in hell. Is it really a mystery why most Jewish people are none too excited about this so-called good news?​
 
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In Scripture all religious persons are called “sojourners and strangers,” because they do not consider this earth as their home, but look for a better country.
And that is from a book entitled: HEBREWS (Jews) chapter 11.

Guess who that was written to?

13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14 For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own.
 
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Except the bible NEVER teaches that.

From another article in the same publication: (page 15)

Simple Substitutions
The assumptions of replacement theology are part and parcel of church teaching and the very warp and woof of Christian doctrine. The most obvious tenets of replacement theology are axiomatic:

■■ The New Testament replaces the Old Testament.
■■ The church replaces Israel.
■■ Christians replace Jews.
■■ The Lord’s Day (Sunday) replaces the Sabbath.
■■ The Lord’s Supper (Eucharist) replaces Passover.

Those are some of the obvious, surface-level substitutions propagated by replacement theology, but that’s just the beginning. Replacement theology completely subverts the Temple, the priesthood, and the Levitical worship system:

■■ The death of Jesus replaces the sacrifices.
■■ The body of Christ replaces the Temple.
■■ The Christian priesthood (or clergy) replaces the Levitical priesthood (non-Protestant).
■■ The priesthood of Jesus replaces the Levitical priesthood (Protestant).

Replacement theology also disregards the idea of a literal fulfillment of the prophecies about the restoration of the Jewish people in the land of Israel. In other words, there is no coming Messianic Era; the church is the Messianic Era. There is no future physical restoration of Israel because the church has replaced Israel, and therefore the prophecies about the coming kingdom are fulfilled in the church and, ultimately, in going to heaven:

■■ The promise of heaven replaces the promised land.
■■ Going to heaven replaces the kingdom of heaven (the Messianic Era).
■■ The church replaces the kingdom of heaven.

Replacement theology is all about “out with the old and in with the new.” It posits that all these old things were replaced when Jesus came and died and rose from the dead. The good news, the “gospel message,” according to replacement theology, is that God has replaced all the old systems with the new system. When stated as succinctly as that, it’s easy to sympathize with Jewish people who reject the gospel. Jews must surely think it puzzling that we would present the New Testament, which ostensibly replaces Judaism and all Jewish religious institutions and functions, as good news for Israel. Where’s the good news in the replacement-theology version of the good news? Israel has been replaced, the Torah has been canceled, and God’s covenant with the Jewish people is over. Adding insult to the injury, replacement theology posits that Jewish people’s relationship with God has been replaced by a new order and mechanism for salvation, thereby damning most Jews to eternity in hell. Is it really a mystery why most Jewish people are none too excited about this so-called good news?​

You are in great need of the Holy Spirit and proper Bible exegesis. There is no point in arguing with you. I pray for your Spiritual illumination.
 
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■■ The New Testament replaces the Old Testament.
■■ The church replaces Israel.
■■ Christians replace Jews.
■■ The Lord’s Day (Sunday) replaces the Sabbath.
■■ The Lord’s Supper (Eucharist) replaces Passover.​

This is imprecise. "Fulfills" would be a much better word to use in each of these sentences.


■■ The death of Jesus replaces the sacrifices.
■■ The body of Christ replaces the Temple.
■■ The Christian priesthood (or clergy) replaces the Levitical priesthood (non-Protestant).
■■ The priesthood of Jesus replaces the Levitical priesthood (Protestant).

Again, "fulfills" is a much better word to use here rather than "replace". But I don't believe that "replace" in these instances is entirely imprecise. Indeed, if you flatly deny these statements it would certainly put you outside the bounds of Christian faith.

■■ The promise of heaven replaces the promised land.
■■ Going to heaven replaces the kingdom of heaven (the Messianic Era).
■■ The church replaces the kingdom of heaven.
"Fulfills" is a better word, but I have no problem with the substance of these statements. Anyone flatly denying them is teaching a different gospel than the gospel of Jesus and the Bible.
 
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Anyone flatly denying them is teaching a different gospel than the gospel of Jesus and the Bible.
OR - the "gospel" of Jesus and the Bible as you have understood it.

Perhaps your understanding is flawed?
 
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BTW - there are other threads concerning Replacement "theology." Please take that discussion over to one of them.

This thread is about distinctions of function between Gentile and Jewish believers.
 
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