Questions Regarding Dietary Law (For Gentile Christians)

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f you are aware of the food being sacrificed to idols, what should be the concern is whether or not this will hurt your testimony or even compromise your belief in God. This is something that needs to be watched out for and I am sure Yeshua did have this concern even when he said "Eat what is set before you" in Luke 10:8:
"8 Whenever you enter a town and they receive you, eat what is set before you."

If you are presented a meal by an unbeliever and your brother and sister is concerned about eating meat offered to idols, it is better to politely turn down the meal for the sake of your brother or sister's conscience.

Be sensitive to the fact that even if you could eat a certain food and have no doubts in your mind if you can eat it, your brother and sister in Yeshua our Messiah may not share that same conviction, so it is better for you to abstain in their presence for their sake, lest you cause them to sin. If you love your brother or sister, then build him up. Support Yeshua and His Father in all their good advice.

But what makes me wonder is can anyone make another sin? Don't we all have the choice to make to do it or not? I don't buy the putting the blame on another if you know what G-d deems we should put in our bodies.
 
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Even those who have placed the kosher symbol on the label have us concerned a time or two, when we discovered that while it may be acceptable to the rabbis who approved the meat, but it gives rise to a conscience consideration. An example of this ..
All About Hot Dogs: Kosher Controversy, Label Confusion, Regional Flavors and More | HuffPost
In May, a class action lawsuit was filed against ConAgra, alleging that Hebrew National hot dogs do not meet kashrut standards. Employees of a firm called AER, which provides the meat for Hebrew Nationals, reported to AER supervisors as well as a rabbi from Triangle K, a New York-based kosher certification company, that they had observed slaughterhouse procedures that were not kosher.


That's why most depend on the OU, Orthodox Union Kashrut Authority. I wouldn't trust ConAgra on that anyway. Just because they have a slogan that says 'We answer to a higher authority' Cute but they don't say which authority.
 
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There were no kosher laws at the time of Lot, except for not eating meat with the life blood in it.
Noah could distinguish between clean and unclean animals. Noah worshipped at the altar.
 
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Noah could distinguish between clean and unclean animals. Noah worshipped at the altar.

No I don't believe he could, I believe that the L-RD sent the animals to him and explained that the reason for the certain seven pairs was because they were considered by him to be clean animals. Remember up to that time Noah ate no meat. Only the L-RD, the Creator would know which animals to save out of all in existence at that time.
 
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Noah could distinguish between clean and unclean animals. Noah worshipped at the altar.

No I don't believe he could, I believe that the L-RD sent the animals to him and explained that the reason for the certain seven pairs was because they were considered by him to be clean animals. Remember up to that time Noah ate no meat. Only the L-RD, the Creator would know which animals to save out of all in existence at that time.
 
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No I don't believe he could, I believe that the L-RD sent the animals to him and explained that the reason for the certain seven pairs was because they were considered by him to be clean animals. Remember up to that time Noah ate no meat. Only the L-RD, the Creator would know which animals to save out of all in existence at that time.
Noah served at the altar. Noah could only place ceremonially clean animals on the altar. Abel offered lamb (clean animal).
 
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I was looking into the aspects of the Law which the council places on gentile Christians in Acts 15, and I see that Paul elaborates specifically on the issue of meat offered to idols in 1 Corinthians 8 and 1 Corinthians 10:25-33. My bigger interest is in the second text wherein Paul writes to go ahead and eat meat that’s offered to you and buy meat from markets without concern so long as you don’t question where it came from, but if someone tells you it was an idol offering to only then refuse it.

Between the two texts, it seems to me that so long as you have the full understanding that an idol is nothing and God is God alone, then the meat is acceptable for consumption (so long as you’re not burdening the conscience of your brother in doing so.)

However, what I’m curious about is, if gentiles were buying meat from the meat market without concern for its source or origin, were they expected to concern themselves with the Kosher status of the meat? Whether it was properly butchered (shechita)? Whether all blood was properly drained, etc?
For the vegetarian reading,

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I was looking into the aspects of the Law which the council places on gentile Christians in Acts 15, and I see that Paul elaborates specifically on the issue of meat offered to idols in 1 Corinthians 8 and 1 Corinthians 10:25-33. My bigger interest is in the second text wherein Paul writes to go ahead and eat meat that’s offered to you and buy meat from markets without concern so long as you don’t question where it came from, but if someone tells you it was an idol offering to only then refuse it.

Between the two texts, it seems to me that so long as you have the full understanding that an idol is nothing and God is God alone, then the meat is acceptable for consumption (so long as you’re not burdening the conscience of your brother in doing so.)

However, what I’m curious about is, if gentiles were buying meat from the meat market without concern for its source or origin, were they expected to concern themselves with the Kosher status of the meat? Whether it was properly butchered (shechita)? Whether all blood was properly drained, etc?
Have you ever prepared a peice of steak.
I particularly love a certain cut of meat that I would soak with certain herbs and ingredient the day before I ate. Ill refrain from certain details out of respect for vegetarian readers.
With due thought consider a days preparation as apart of what Fire will finish in cleansing the meal.
Depending on the season before refrigerators were available. I imagine cattle(steak were typically a meal prepared before winter. So that there would be provisions till spring. If the yr was bountiful enough with provisions from the Lord. During pesach(spring) cattle would also be a meal. But from pesach to shavout. There should be work in Hope with unmuzzled oxen.

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However, what I’m curious about is, if gentiles were buying meat from the meat market without concern for its source or origin, were they expected to concern themselves with the Kosher status of the meat? Whether it was properly butchered (shechita)? Whether all blood was properly drained, etc?
"Kosher," meaning biblically slaughtered and blood drained, would NOT have been used in temples dedicated to the Greek pagan "gods."
 
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But what makes me wonder is can anyone make another sin? Don't we all have the choice to make to do it or not? I don't buy the putting the blame on another if you know what G-d deems we should put in our bodies.
If a person recognizes a snare. Then blame falls on the one who laid it.

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But what makes me wonder is can anyone make another sin? Don't we all have the choice to make to do it or not? I don't buy the putting the blame on another if you know what G-d deems we should put in our bodies.
Stangled meat for example reminds me of a snare being laid by a person. For their conscience sake I would warn them.
If they turned violent and were caught in their own snare. I would turn and walk away.

If I happened by a stranger caught in a snare by no fault of their own.
The blame would still as always fall on the person that laid the snare.

Mercy and Justice sis
 
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Stangled meat for example reminds me of a snare being laid by a person. For their conscience sake I would warn them.
If they turned violent and were caught in their own snare. I would turn and walk away.

If I happened by a stranger caught in a snare by no fault of their own.
The blame would still as always fall on the person that laid the snare.

Mercy and Justice sis
A comparable example to fault or blame falling on another would be parents who teach their children to lie, steal, and worse.

Does the fault fall on the children?
Answer; no.

Something learned some time back is that ole elihu(Satan) accuses others of what it has done.
 
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No I don't believe he could, I believe that the L-RD sent the animals to him and explained that the reason for the certain seven pairs was because they were considered by him to be clean animals. Remember up to that time Noah ate no meat. Only the L-RD, the Creator would know which animals to save out of all in existence at that time.
Noach ate no meat before the flood?

I don't recall ever hearing of such a school of thought.
 
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A comparable example to fault or blame falling on another would be parents who teach their children to lie, steal, and worse.

Does the fault fall on the children?
Answer; no.

Something learned some time back is that ole elihu(Satan) accuses others of what it has done.
That works up to the age of accountability
 
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Noach ate no meat before the flood?

I don't recall ever hearing of such a school of thought.

Maybe try reading? :)

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 2:16And the L-RD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
 
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Maybe try reading? :)

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 2:16And the L-RD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
Herbs to season meat in due season?
 
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Maybe try reading? :)

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 2:16And the L-RD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
And do the fowls(birds only eat fruits from trees. I suspect many eat more than insect meat. Do all the 4 footed creatures eat only grass. I suspect not.
What I very much Love about Torah is....

The Torah is more to me than manna, breath, and Light.

Forgive me for being hungry.

In the spirit I consider each and every face other than a man to be pure.
 
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Maybe try reading? :)

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 2:16And the L-RD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
Of all what is edible, have you ever considered meat to be apart of a kosher diet alongside spiritual armor?

If I recall correctly.
A Sword in a sheath has value.

How many prophets do u know?
 
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Maybe try reading? :)

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Gen 2:16And the L-RD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
If meat was impermissible why would herbs be likened to meat? It is obvious that eating clean meat is lawful; "I have given every green herb for meat". "It shall be meat", the green herb shall be meat. The green herb is likened to meat. So Noah gathered both clean and unclean animals, but all green herbs are not clean. Much in the same way, the forbidden tree grew in the middle of the garden. All green herbs are not lawful to eat like poison ivy or the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
 
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