Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

Does willful sin separate those once saved from God.

  • No, obedience is "works" and we are not saved by works.

    Votes: 10 33.3%
  • Yes, willful sin must be repented from in order to stay saved.

    Votes: 20 66.7%

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Grip Docility

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Your confused here brother. How can God's LAW which give us a knowledge of what sin is in the NEW COVENANT *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; JAMES 2:10-11 be referred to here when it is God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) that leads us to Christ that we might be FORGIVEN through FAITH and made free to walk in God's SPIRIT *GALATIANS 3:22-25; ROMANS 8:1-4; ROMANS 3:31; GALATIANS 5:16; GALATIANS 3:22-25?

Love is eternal. Love is the eternal Law of God.

Satan was the Angel that leveraged the Stone Law Against mankind. I gave you the proof verses that couldn’t be more plain.
 
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Here are some words in the Bible: "He who says he has no sin, deceives himself and the truth is not in him". John wrote this to Christian believers.

I agree with @Phil W, and don't know how you can't see that verses 8 and 9 are to be read together. Verse 8 is mankind since Adam before Christ where all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and 9 is how to become a Christian. Notice they are cleansed of ALL SIN, so how can we still have sin as verse 8 says?
 
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It looks like you believe as I do that Romans 7 is like what the Jews went through BEFORE Christ and the Spirit, that Romans 7 does not depict a Christian as some believe who take 14-23 out of context of the whole.
Indeed sister, JESUS came to save us from our sins not to continue in them. All those who continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23 and count the BLOOD of the COVENANT an unholy thing *HEBREWS 10:26-31.
 
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What has what you are posting here have to do with our conversation of HEBREWS 9 that you do not wish to talk about any more?

I’m asking you a very specific question....

Do I need to go to Exodus and show what Moses cast down once and had to rechisel?

Do I need to specify what was “Born on Mt. Sanai”?
 
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Love is eternal. Love is the eternal Law of God. Satan was the Angel that leveraged the Stone Law Against mankind. I gave you the proof verses that couldn’t be more plain.

Sure LOVE is eternal so is God's LAW which is how LOVE is expressed *ROMANS 13:8-10.
 
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I’m asking you a very specific question....

Do I need to go to Exodus and show what Moses cast down once and had to rechisel?

Do I need to specify what was “Born on Mt. Sanai”?

I asked you specific questions before you asked me anything dear brother. Happy to answer your questions if you answer mine as well. How about it? If you do not want to answer my questions to you just say so. I am not interested in playing games with you again.
 
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I asked you a specific question before you asked me anything deaR brother. Happy to answer your questions if you answer mine as well. How about it?

If you ask 1 question without scripture walling, I would be fine answering it.
 
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Indeed sister, JESUS came to save us from our sins not to continue in them. All those who continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23 and count the BLOOD of the COVENANT an unholy thing *HEBREWS 10:26-31.

What do you see in 1 John 1:8? Is that a Christian, or before Christ? I say before.
 
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I asked you specific questions before you asked me anything dead brother. Happy to answer your questions if you answer mine as well. How about it? If you do not want to answer my questions to you just say so. I am not interested in playing games with you again.

Did you really mean to say "dead" brother, instead of maybe "dear" brother? LOL
 
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John Says... “We”... was John a Christian?

We as in his congregation. You see the Gnostics who believed 1 John 4:1-3 were infiltrating the church. Not everyone in his congregation were saved. Read the whole book and you will see the context.
 
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I think Romans 8 fills the gap here. Why did God send his son? (Romans 8:3-4) Why is the Spirit necessary to fulfill the law? (Romans 8:5-8) What have we received in the Spirit? (Romans 8:9-11) Does the Spirit put to death sin of the body? (Romans 8:12-14) Being led by the Spirit, are we in slavery? (Romans 8:15-17)

The Law defines the Glory of Christ, the Spirit is received from God, and through the Spirit we put to death the sins of the body, so that we also may fulfill the Law, just as Christ did and be glorified with him. Its a matter of Prayer and Faith.
 
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We as in his congregation. You see the Gnostics who believed 1 John 4:1-3 were infiltrating the church. Not everyone in his congregation were saved. Read the whole book and you will see the context.

There is no mention of Gnostics. John was not a gnostic.
 
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Of course John was not a Gnostic, but their teaching is, I repeat, 1 John 4:1-3.

This is from the Revelator. It is about the future anti christ. It was also against Arian Heresy.
 
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Of course John was not a Gnostic, but their teaching is, I repeat, 1 John 4:1-3.

1 John 1:8-10 John Says We, present tense. It’s unambiguous and there for a very important reason... (Romans 10:3)
 
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