Is science good?

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Speedwell

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I find it impractical to throw out everything we as a species have come to understand about the universe around us. Even as future generations discover everything their ancestors knew to be false, at least some of their efforts paved the way to the truth.

To me, seperating yourself from our current scientific understandings is akin to seperating yourself from humanity.
But for some a literal reading of Genesis is more important.
 
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The question is for whom is science a tool? If it is an instrument of deception and poison and destruction of life, then how would that be man using a tool? Man is stuck with science like it or not. Man, you could say made the tool. However, looking at the false sciences dealing in origins that is a tool of demons casting doubt on God! That is a tool of wicked men keeping God and creation away from kids in school! Looking at Hiroshima, I recall stories from school kids of the horrors and death, so how would the fruits of science have been any tool fr them?
Perhaps Science has had no good effect for you.

Perhaps you don't drive a car, eat any processed food, shop at the supermarket, use any electricity, have received any modern medical care, etc. Have you ever flown ?

Of course, we know that you make use of computer science ... and the internet. Probably phones too ...
 
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There is no data or evidence supporting god(s) or magic.

Metaphysics cannot be a part of science.
There is a world of historical, almot universal data supporting a spiritual element to life actually. Science has no more data on the matter than a mouse has...less actually! So what! Science plays around in the physical only fishbowl. Do not expect more from it. I won't expect less.
 
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No. Do you think we should ban chemistry because it might help some people figure out how to make explosives out of household items?
Who can ban knowledge from man once the Pandora's box has been opened? God has a better plan anyhow, He is going to ban wickedness from earth. The world will be filled with the knowledge of God and good then!

Given your assumption and your particular interpretation of His word, then either science is in error, or your interpretation of His word is suspect (or both).
Bingo. Either God is a liar or science is wrong on origins. Now if there is a God and He is true, what does this say about the inspiration of origin 'sciences'?
 
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Perhaps Science has had no good effect for you.

Perhaps you don't drive a car, eat any processed food, shop at the supermarket, use any electricity, have received any modern medical care, etc. Have you ever flown ?

Of course, we know that you make use of computer science ... and the internet. Probably phones too ...
If some early Christians caught some games at the coliseum would that make them bad just because the place was also later used to kill Christians? Does the bible say we are to avoid using the world? No. It says we are to use it but not abuse it. Using what is here the best we can does not mean all that is here is good.
 
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Who can ban knowledge from man once the Pandora's box has been opened? God has a better plan anyhow, He is going to ban wickedness from earth. The world will be filled with the knowledge of God and good then!

Bingo. Either God is a liar or science is wrong on origins. Now if there is a God and He is true, what does this say about the inspiration of origin 'sciences'?
And, of course, it is not possible that you are wrong about your interpretation of Genesis.
 
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I don't think you quite qualify as God, and I don't think you're lying, just possibly a smidge or more incorrect.
His word qualifies as being from God according to Jesus. Science is fundamentally incorrect on issues or origins. It is also a danger to life on earth.
 
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There are just some tools in the toolbox that need to be thrown out like: evolution and a great part of secular psychological siences
evolution is used for medical research. Ask any diabetic or a person who needed open heart surgery, if they would rather be alive or dead. Because if it weren’t for understanding common descent neither would be alive . The heart surgery techniques were learned originally in dogs. The original insulin used to save diabetics came from pigs and cows because human insulin wasn’t much available then. The only reason that doctors thought that these techniques would work is because they did teach evolution/ common descent in medical schools back then . Your complaint about evolution is due to you learning pseudoscience from creationist sources. Reality is much different!
 
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evolution is used for medical research. Ask any diabetic or a person who needed open heart surgery, if they would rather be alive or dead. Because if it weren’t for understanding common descent neither would be alive . The heart surgery techniques were learned originally in dogs. The original insulin used to save diabetics came from pigs and cows because human insulin wasn’t much available then. The only reason that doctors thought that these techniques would work is because they did teach evolution/ common descent in medical schools back then . Your complaint about evolution is due to you learning pseudoscience from creationist sources. Reality is much different!
NOT evolution as in anything to do with man coming from low life forms!!! Not in any way whatsoever. The issue is not whether creatures can adapt and evolve. Creation was equipped with the ability to do so. The issue is the demented fable of evolution of life rather than the creation of life.
 
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