Does anyone do home Communion?

Francis Drake · Jun 18, 2019

Didaskalos said:
Absolutely. Paul tells us what the cause is:
"...not discerning the ~~Lord's~~ body."

This is a misquote of scripture. The word "Lord's", is not in the original text but has been added and as such distorts the meaning.
@Dave-W in Post No30 rightly explains that Paul is referring to the church, the body of Christ.

Ken Rank · Jun 18, 2019

topher694 said:
Apostles are much, much more than church planters.

That aside, you don't have to be an Apostle to be apostolic any more than you need to be a Prophet to be prophetic, an Evangelist to evangelize, a Pastor to care for people or a Teacher to teach. Likewise, I don't believe you have to be a leader to remember Jesus' sacrifice or to examine yourself or be lead by one to do so. Plus, the Bible says those who believe are now kings and priests, a royal priesthood.

Which proves my one and only point... if we belong to Him we are qualified!

Ken Rank · Jun 18, 2019

topher694 said:
Apostles are much, much more than church planters.

By the way, I didn't say they were church planters... I said they were BASICALLY church planters. By using the word "basically" I wasn't placing equal weight... I was just trying to make a point. Apostles go OUT... they are emissaries. And though they are more than church planters, they do plant and water churches as they "go out."

topher694 · Jun 18, 2019

Ken Rank said:
Which proves my one and only point... if we belong to Him we are qualified!

I suppose I should have made it more clear that I was indeed agreeing with you.

Francis Drake · Jun 18, 2019

Dave-W said:
And in the very next chapter he tells us what the Body is:

1 Cor 12:
14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot says, “Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear says, “Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. 19 If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now there are many members, but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; or again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary; 23 and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable, 24 whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, 25 so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it.

I agree, but would also add that in Chapter11, until Paul gets into describing the communion proper at approx v23, everything he speaks of is about the body of Christ.
Thus we find the communion sandwiched in the midst of Paul's description of the proper function of the body of Christ.

W2L · Jun 18, 2019

Im not sure we understand communion. Catholics and protestants have different views. Myself i think its more important to show our faith in love rather than a misunderstood ritual. Not that im judging, just that this is my belief.

paul1149 · Jun 18, 2019

Francis Drake said:
This is a misquote of scripture. The word "Lord's", is not in the original text but has been added and as such distorts the meaning.

I agree that "body" in 1Cor 11 refers to the ecclesia rather than is a comment on the physical confection of the Communion. But for the record "of the Lord" is in the Eastern text type.

Dave-W · Jun 19, 2019

W2L said:
Im not sure we understand communion. Catholics and protestants have different views. Myself i think its more important to show our faith in love rather than a misunderstood ritual. Not that im judging, just that this is my belief.

Communion is a COVENANT meal. It has been understood in the mid east to be that since the days of Abraham. In fact, the first bread and wine covenant meal was between Abraham and Melchizedek.

SavedByGrace3 · Jun 19, 2019

Thanks to all for the comments and information.
Will consider all that has been said!

DennisTate · Feb 5, 2020

SavedByGrace3 said:
Do you have a format? Scriptural prayers?
What do you use for the bread and the wine?
Any thoughts or discussion?

I was taught to bake up actual unleavened bread with merely flour, olive oil, and salt.

I am used to using a very dry red wine.

I've recently heard of communion being used to break demonic power in a location.

It is in here somewhere....

Francis Drake · Feb 6, 2020

DennisTate said:
I was taught to bake up actual unleavened bread with merely flour, olive oil, and salt.

I am used to using a very dry red wine.

We use any available bread and any available wine.

We have to be careful not to be too prissy when it comes to the right formula, otherwise, prior to the age of mass international trade, half the planet would have been excluded simply by having the wrong climate or soil conditions, (or not being part of the Roman Empire.

Thus olive oil is fine if you live in the Mediterranean, where they grow profusely, but not in Norway.
Wheat flour may be widespread, but not in monsoon areas like Nepal.
Grapes for the wine are not found in India or Greenland.

About 20 years ago, I had the privilege of being asked to do some evangelism in Nepal. This was among some very remote villages where some wonderful missionary work had already been done a long way from Kathmandu.
I had been asked to teach on Communion, but as I flew out, I mused over the question of what they would use for bread and wine, neither item remotely being a staple of their diet, nor likely to be accessible up in the mountains.
When it came to the communion, it was simply done with a savoury rice cake, and sweet black tea, normal staple items in their diet!

Over the years, I have shared communion using some very strange breads and wines. ie, Snickers and Coke!

The items used in Communion, depend far more on what you declare them to be, ie. the body and the blood, than the manufacturing ingredients.

I've recently heard of communion being used to break demonic power in a location.

It is in here somewhere....

That would be me.
I have spoken in various posts regarding redeeming the land with the wine of the testimony. I touch on it in post No39.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) · Feb 6, 2020

Yes! I attend worship at local assemblies. But I also partake of Him by myself too. (I'm single)

I use grape juice and any type of bread that's not fancy. It's a special moment I share with him using scripture reading and personal prayers, thanking Him and worshiping Him for His forgiveness and healing.

TheNorwegian · Feb 7, 2020

Francis Drake said:
Thus olive oil is fine if you live in the Mediterranean, where they grow profusely, but not in Norway.

A but unrelated, but: Why would it not be OK to use olive oil in Norway?

Francis Drake · Feb 7, 2020

TheNorwegian said:
A but unrelated, but: Why would it not be OK to use olive oil in Norway?

Haha, read the whole context.
I was simply pointing out that to my knowledge, like many other places, Norway didn't grow olive trees back then. (or grapes)
So following Dennis's communion bread recipe was out of the question, as was communion wine.
I am sure there's plenty of bread and wine in Norway these days, although from my memory, alcohol is very highly taxed over there!

tturt · Feb 7, 2020

Yes we do. Gives time to think about Jesus and those Scriptures.

For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep." I Cor 11:30

So the opposite is true because of Him.

Francis Drake · Feb 7, 2020

tturt said:
Yes we do. Gives time to think about Jesus and those Scriptures.

For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep." I Cor 11:30

So the opposite is true because of Him.

In the context of communion, the verse you quote is extremely important. To aid understanding I've added the previous verse.

1Cor11v29For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the ~~Lord’s~~ body. 30For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep.

You will note I have also crossed out ~~"Lord's"~~ for the simple reason that it was not in the original. Body here refers simply to the body of believers in Christ.

You only have to look at the average church and you will see that weakness and sickness is little different to what is found among unbelievers. To understand the cause of such sickness and weakness, we can see that v30 starts with the words, "for this reason.....", directing us to the previous verse.
29For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the ~~Lord’s~~ body.

Look at the last words, "...……….not discerning the body.." As already stated, "body" refers to the earthly body of Christ, not Jesus on the cross as often taught. So not discerning the body causes sickness and death.

Clearly, "not discerning the body" is a critical error in the church, with deadly results. Therefore we must examine what that means.
Fortunately Paul has expounded on the "Body of Christ" in great depth in 1Corinthians. We can see this from the very first chapter when Paul rebukes the believers for chasing after exalted leaders. Paul continues with that theme right up to where he explains communion in chapter 11.
Then immediately after the communion, he reverts to expounding the body of Christ yet again.

There's far more to this than I can post right now.

So communion is deeply sandwiched between instructions on how the body of Christ functions. And you will note that Paul rejects the notion of believers putting other men over their heads instead of Christ. He rejects

TheNorwegian · Feb 8, 2020

Francis Drake said:
Haha, read the whole context.

Nah! Discussing is so much more fun when I do not have to take context into consideration! /s

tturt · Feb 8, 2020

After review again, believe the body is Jesus' physical body. Because ...
Jesus had eaten with them many times before but He ate a covenant meal with his disciples on that last night. Jesus explained why this bread and wine was different. ,"Do this in remembrance of me " But it's not to be done carelessly.so examine yourself - me, a part of His church . Take care of issues such as unforgivess, judging others, etc. before doing this in remembrance of Him. Then we are able to take communion worthily because of Him, His sacrifice, His righteousness, His body and blood for us.

SpiritPsalmist · Feb 9, 2020

Tree of Life said:
By "public" I do not mean open to all. The Lord's table is only open to believers. But the sacrament is to be administered only by ordained church leadership in the context of public worship.

I believe this to be your particular church doctrine.

SpiritPsalmist · Feb 9, 2020

Ken Rank said:
Our family believes that what we call communion, is done when he did it, at the Passover meal. I So, we set one cup (wine) apart, and an amount of unleavened bread during that annual meal... and we do the blessings that he would have said over them. We also take the time to reflect at what each element means.

My practice does not mean that I think those who do it weekly are less holy, less favored, or less anything else! We do what we do because that is what we think he meant, but I can see how others arrive at different conclusions.

I believe the same thing, our Lord took the bread and wine during Passover. I believe that is when the early believers did it too. That does not mean that we can't take it other times, just that it was the Passover meal that was being referred to when Yeshua initiated it. When I'm in a group that is taking it, I participate, but also, as the Lord guides me though, I will take it alone, (I'm single and live alone). I'm not aware of any scripture that says we "MUST" take it with other people". "Where two or three are gathered in my name I am in the midst of them" (Matt 18:20) Me and Yeshua make two.

No one should have to wait until someone else decides to come over to help take it...Just sayin'.

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