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Think about the history of this forum. 90% or more is speaking directly to what the writer of Hebrews is saying we should leave.
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Think about the history of this forum. 90% or more is speaking directly to what the writer of Hebrews is saying we should leave.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Now, unfortunately, it leaves us with another roadblock. How to live it.I'm other words:
Stop arguing about the Gospel and start living it.
Seems to fit forums nicely.
Well I preached on this very thing this weekend. I don't believe that the issue is that it is rare for churches to talk about noneagalistic holiness, there are plenty that do (granted not enough) . What IS rare is for an "explosive growth" church to do so.Agreed wholeheartedly. Now, unfortunately, it leaves us with another roadblock. How to live it.
We hear much talk in the New Testament about the importance of holiness, of keeping our body under, of running our race as if there is but one prize.
Do we hear it in our churches today? With few rare exceptions, no. And why do we not hear it? Simply because no one knows the HOW of holiness other than legalistic effort, which is totally unappealing and doesn't work anyway. LOL.
But we are about to discover what has long been lost to the church, ever since the last drops of the early rain fell in the first century..... the way to take our old nature out of the equation.
And when we do, and awake to HOW to walk in singleness of eye, as living sacrifices, the world will again see His bride in resplendent beauty, ready to meet her husband.
When will it happen? When we cannot live.... or love..... without it. Huge changes are coming. Buckle your spiritual seatbelts! The first drops of the latter rain are falling even now.
Blessings,
Gideon
For someone who lived as the poster boy for Romans 7 for 38 years, being willing to walk in holiness (which I was) is not the same as being able (which I most definitely was not, lol).Well I preached on this very thing this weekend. I don't believe that the issue is that it is rare for churches to talk about noneagalistic holiness, there are plenty that do (granted not enough) . What IS rare is for an "explosive growth" church to do so.
Then the question becomes, when it is taught, are people willing to put it into practice in their own lives.
I guess my point is that the same issues that hinder ministries from truly equipping believers to overcome are the very same issues that also hinder believers from truly following ministries that do equip them for it.For someone who lived as the poster boy for Romans 7 for 38 years, being willing to walk in holiness (which I was) is not the same as being able (which I most definitely was not, lol).
When we take what God asks of us.... to love Him with ALL of our hearts, and to love others as we lvoe ourselves.... and apply it to our lives, do we truly believe we can do so if we just try harder?
What do we tell a man caught in the web of inappropriate content? Think good thoughts? Get an accountability partner? Memorize more scripture? How exactly does one "bring every thought unto the obedience of Christ"? I can tell you this much. Whatever we are telling him isn't working.
Holiness is God's character grafted into us. It comes by abiding in Him because that is the only place we do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, right?
But again, that leads to another dilemma, and a question. How do we abide in Him? Until we admit preaching the need for holiness is not enough to bring the desired results, we will continue to wallow in the wilderness, running endless religious laps, always moving, never truly getting anywhere.
There IS an answer, but God is waiting until we hunger and thirst for righteousness, and stop remaining satisfied with just forgiveness. It is the cry of our heart He is waiting to hear, and an admission that without a miracle, we are in deep trouble.
In these last days, God is awakening His own, and He will plant our feet on the highway of holiness despite our weaknesses. But until we can see that no amount of our effort will suffice, unless it is God in us doing the heavy lifting, we will remain NOT free indeed.
Amazing days are ahead......
blessings,
Gids
I agree wholeheartedly. The question is.... when do we finally stop and ask God why it is not working. He does have an answer for us. Could it be He is waiting on us to cry out in hunger for us to be freed from the power of sin and self rule and made into overcomers like He has promised us?I guess my point is that the same issues that hinder ministries from truly equipping believers to overcome are the very same issues that also hinder believers from truly following ministries that do equip them for it.
Why are so many still in the elementary principles of Christ
I agree wholeheartedly. The question is.... when do we finally stop and ask God why it is not working. He does have an answer for us. Could it be He is waiting on us to cry out in hunger for us to be freed from the power of sin and self rule and made into overcomers like He has promised us?
Blessings,
Gideon
Do you realize that multitudes are sitting under preachers who will not say the hard things that need to be said, either for fear of losing tithers or simply because they themselves have been deluded into believing continuing in sin is not dangerous?There are "words" I believe we need to be careful of. "MANY" "MOST". Seen talked to many, most have we? Can't be Churches were talking about. I've seen allot of posts but.. even then can't then base it off that persons one post I read.
Yes to get off milk on to meat! Paul was over them.. He has a right to speak to them. Sorry.. who here has this right? I am going to guess they (most many) don't know who you are nor what you personally believe. YES that really mattes. What comes to mind is the OT.. sorry.. when did the spirit leave me to you? (yes we now each have the holy spirit)
That preacher that starts that Church.. helps them.. He then goes.. comes back many months later or year or two. Comes back to find out..they have not grown. THAT preacher has a right to speak to them.
I say this allot.. it USE to be when someone like this or the one that would come up saying "THUS SAYS THE LORD" they would ask him/her who are you? Who knows you? How long have you walked in what you preach/teach? All would go pray for a very long time. WE DONT do this ...yet its very wise no?
Problem is so much of the church is grace centered that just the mention of works gets you hissed at for teaching heresyJames tells us that works is the evidence of faith. Maybe the church needs to teach more about works. The world certainly can use more good works.
To be honest... The book of acts believers had No new testimentThat is because we neglect to diligently study the scriptures through which the Gospel of Christ is given. But it gets worse. There are an increasing number of people who claim Christ yet do not adhere to even the basics of Christianity.
Have you ever viewed the Barna statistics regarding biblical literacy within the Church? The findings are very dismal.
Furthermore, the scriptures are not being taught in their full counsel by many Pastors and Church leaders nor do they admonish they whom they are teaching to diligently read and study the scriptures. They are not prepared to give answer for the faith profess to be within them (1. Pet. 3:15) neither do they earnestly contend for the faith (Jude 3) or oppose those the lies that blind people to the truth of the Gospel nor do they confront the false doctrines and heresies that lead the saints astray , blaspheme God, and overthrow faith.
Where the truth of God does not abide, falsehood, lies, and heresies abound.