Did the event of 1948 Israel fulfill any Bible prophecy?

Did event of Israel 1948 fulfill any Bible prophecy?


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The words "Russian, invasion, peace, treaty" appear nowhere in the cited Scriptures. These things are in your word, alone.

I thought you believed Scripture literally. Wolves and flock were and are literal realities. How dare you allegorize them?
Russian isn't in the Bible, as that country wasn't formed when Ezekiel wrote. There is simply no one else who fits Ezekiel's description; Russia and the 'Stan' countries, mostly Muslims, all living in the Far North.

I believe in a literal fulfilment, where that is applicable and can happen. Obviously 'wolves' applies to those who promote false theories and deceive the 'flock', people who are faithful Christians, but have failed to properly discern the Word.

Those who 'dare' to push doctrines and their own ideas on what God has planned for the future, are false teachers and will face a severe judgment. James 3:1
 
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Russian isn't in the Bible, as that country wasn't formed when Ezekiel wrote. There is simply no one else who fits Ezekiel's description; Russia and the 'Stan' countries, mostly Muslims, all living in the Far North.


◄ 7218. rosh ►

Strong's Concordance
rosh: head
Original Word: רֹאשׁ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: rosh
Phonetic Spelling: (roshe)
Definition: head

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
head


Nothing to do with Russia.

From the article linked below:

"The Bible says nothing about Russia in the end-times."

"Those who 'dare' to push doctrines and their own ideas on what God has planned for the future, are false teachers and will face a severe judgment. James 3:1"
 
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"Those who 'dare' to push doctrines and their own ideas on what God has planned for the future, are false teachers and will face a severe judgment. James 3:1"
I want to assure you that I too will stand in Judgment as a teacher and although I firmly believe what I post is true and correct, I am only human and mistakes can happen. We will all know the truth some day, could be quite soon!

Re Russia, what other country in the far reaches of the North did you have in mind?
 
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God never told the prophets this:

"the Russian Invasion, the signing of the treaty between Israel and the Antichrist"

And you will not find it written down in his word.

Such is PURELY man made tradition.


Yes you will ! Ezekiel 38-39 and Daniel 9 Just because I use modern names and modern terminology does not negate the truth of Gods Word!
 
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I want to assure you that I too will stand in Judgment as a teacher and although I firmly believe what I post is true and correct, I am only human and mistakes can happen. We will all know the truth some day, could be quite soon!

Re Russia, what other country in the far reaches of the North did you have in mind?

Asia Minor (Turkey today) in Ezekiel's era.
 
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Russian isn't in the Bible, as that country wasn't formed when Ezekiel wrote. There is simply no one else who fits Ezekiel's description; Russia and the 'Stan' countries, mostly Muslims, all living in the Far North.

I believe in a literal fulfilment, where that is applicable and can happen. Obviously 'wolves' applies to those who promote false theories and deceive the 'flock', people who are faithful Christians, but have failed to properly discern the Word.

Those who 'dare' to push doctrines and their own ideas on what God has planned for the future, are false teachers and will face a severe judgment. James 3:1


No but Gog of Magog who was the Rosh prince of Meshech and Tubal is~! and Just simply following th eetymology of those names- you get to Rosh (Russia), Meshech (Moscow) Tubal (Tobolsk) Magog, (Soviet Georgia)
 
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◄ 7218. rosh ►

Strong's Concordance
rosh: head
Original Word: רֹאשׁ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: rosh
Phonetic Spelling: (roshe)
Definition: head

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
head


Nothing to do with Russia.

From the article linked below:

"The Bible says nothing about Russia in the end-times."

"Those who 'dare' to push doctrines and their own ideas on what God has planned for the future, are false teachers and will face a severe judgment. James 3:1"


Yes Rosh means head or chief! Now do a word history of Russia which also means head or chief! Russia is in a direct line north from Israel!

This invasion against Israel will come to pass, simply because God said it would!
 
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Ok... so you allow for some "wiggle room" in prophetic fulfillment..
That is good to know.

There are many prophetic statements that are still hard to emphatically declare, I believe that what I have learned is correct but on many I cannot state absolutely!

But Ezaekiels vision of the temple is the rebuilt and not teh third temple soon to be constructed.

I would agree with that..
I would be curious as to where you are reading about "life in the millennial kingdom"... are you solely referring to Revelation 20? (because there's not much detail there about "life" during that time)..or are you drawing inference from anywhere else? and if so, where does scripture teach you to draw such inference?

Isaiah and thye prophets have much to say about life in the millenial kingdom. I will find the text I use to teach eschatology and write some down for you on Tuesday- my next day off!

What do you mean by soon?
Do you mean the same thing the apostles meant when they said these things were coming "soon" or are you using a different definition of the term than the apostles used?

This is one I can never get any futurist to pin down.... on one breath they say soon means thousands of years and in the next they say it means weeks, months, years or decades at most, effectively rendering the term "soon" when they use it, totally meaningless.

Well I wouldn't say it is as indefinite as the Apostles- though they believed it was in their lifetime. but we are living in the last days of human history. May 1848 started the end time clock ticking again. 1967 was key as well with Israel retaking Jerusalem for themselves. I have been to Israel and seen the model for the new temple. They are itching to build it! It is just the hand of God holding them back.

They have the tools, the priests ephods, teach ritual sacrifice in Hebrew University, have quarried stone- so it is just for God to release them to do so!
 
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Yes you will ! Ezekiel 38-39 and Daniel 9 Just because I use modern names and modern terminology does not negate the truth of Gods Word!

Just because you alter scripture to fit your modern speculations does not make it so.

I believe altering your view to fit the scripture is the better way.
 
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Russia did not exist when Ezekiel wrote.

Asia Minor did.
What is your agenda, jgr? Why so intransigent on this issue?
The prophecy states Gog/Magog will mostly come from the North. They will be a people who oppose Christianity; are Islamic or atheistic and who have a history of conquest and pillage. The Mongols and the Russians.

And so I am not 'altering scripture', as Parousia thinks that is sinful; they won't have modern weapons because the Lord has destroyed them all on His Day of fiery wrath. Hosea 2:18, Psalms 46:9, Psalms 76:3
 
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What is your agenda, jgr? Why so intransigent on this issue?
The prophecy states Gog/Magog will mostly come from the North. They will be a people who oppose Christianity; are Islamic or atheistic and who have a history of conquest and pillage. The Mongols and the Russians.

And so I am not 'altering scripture', as Parousia thinks that is sinful; they won't have modern weapons because the Lord has destroyed them all on His Day of fiery wrath. Hosea 2:18, Psalms 46:9, Psalms 76:3

Asia Minor was in the north.

Even recognized modernist futurites have debunked the Russia fallacy.

Russia's armaments today do not consist of horses, horsemen, bucklers, shields, and swords.

Today, neocon zionism makes an attack by Israel upon Russia far more probable than the reverse.
 
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There are many prophetic statements that are still hard to emphatically declare, I believe that what I have learned is correct but on many I cannot state absolutely!

But Ezaekiels vision of the temple is the rebuilt and not teh third temple soon to be constructed.



Isaiah and thye prophets have much to say about life in the millenial kingdom. I will find the text I use to teach eschatology and write some down for you on Tuesday- my next day off!



Well I wouldn't say it is as indefinite as the Apostles- though they believed it was in their lifetime. but we are living in the last days of human history. May 1848 started the end time clock ticking again. 1967 was key as well with Israel retaking Jerusalem for themselves. I have been to Israel and seen the model for the new temple. They are itching to build it! It is just the hand of God holding them back.

They have the tools, the priests ephods, teach ritual sacrifice in Hebrew University, have quarried stone- so it is just for God to release them to do so!

Here's what God released the last time a temple rebuild was attempted.

Anyone who thinks He's changed His Mind since then should be more than happy to roll the dice and go to assist with the rebuilding.

The rest of us are stocked up on popcorn.

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and opressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.
 
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Today, neocon zionism makes an attack by Israel upon Russia far more probable than the reverse.
So basically, you just don't believe what the Bible says and prefer your own fanciful notions.
 
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Here's what God released the last time a temple rebuild was attempted.

Anyone who thinks He's changed His Mind since then should be more than happy to roll the dice and go to assist with the rebuilding.

The rest of us are stocked up on popcorn.

Sozomen (ca. A.D.375-447)
"Ecclesiastical History"
Book V, Chapter XXII


Though the emperor [Julian the Apostate] hated and opressed the Christians, he manifested benevolence and humanity towards the Jews. He wrote to the Jewish patriarchs and leaders, as well as to the people, requesting them to pray for him, and for the prosperity of the empire. In taking this step he was not actuated, I am convinced, by any respect for their religion; for he was aware that it is, so to speak, the mother of the Christian religion, and he knew that both religions rest upon the authority of the patriarchs and the prophets; but he thought to grieve the Christians by favoring the Jews, who are their most inveterate enemies. But perhaps he also calculated upon persuading the Jews to embrace paganism and sacrifices; for they were only acquainted with the mere letter of Scripture, and could not, like the Christians and a few of the wisest among the Hebrews, discern the hidden meaning.

Events proved that this was his real motive; for he sent for some of the chiefs of the race and exhorted them to return to the observance of the laws of Moses and the customs of their fathers. On their replying that because the temple in Jerusalem was overturned, it was neither lawful nor ancestral to do this in another place than the metropolis out of which they had been cast, he gave them public money, commanded them to rebuild the temple, and to practice the cult similar to that of their ancestors, by sacrificing after the ancient way. The Jews entered upon the undertaking, without reflecting that, according to the prediction of the holy prophets, it could not be accomplished. They sought for the most skillful artisans, collected materials, cleared the ground, and entered so earnestly upon the task, that even the women carried heaps of earth, and brought their necklaces and other female ornaments towards defraying the expense. The emperor, the other pagans, and all the Jews, regarded every other undertaking as secondary in importance to this. Although the pagans were not well-disposed towards the Jews, yet they assisted them in this enterprise, because they reckoned upon its ultimate success, and hoped by this means to falsify the prophecies of Christ. Besides this motive, the Jews themselves were impelled by the consideration that the time had arrived for rebuilding their temple. When they had removed the ruins of the former building, they dug up the ground and cleared away its foundation; it is said that on the following day when they were about to lay the first foundation, a great earthquake occurred, and by the violent agitation of the earth, stones were thrown up from the depths, by which those of the Jews who were engaged in the work were wounded, as likewise those who were merely looking on. The houses and public porticos, near the site of the temple, in which they had diverted themselves, were suddenly thrown down; many were caught thereby, some perished immediately, others were found half dead and mutilated of hands or legs, others were injured in other parts of the body. When God caused the earthquake to cease, the workmen who survived again returned to their task, partly because such was the edict of the emperor, and partly because they were themselves interested in the undertaking. Men often, in endeavoring to gratify their own passions, seek what is injurious to them, reject what would be truly advantageous, and are deluded-by the idea that nothing is really useful except what is agreeable to them. When once led astray by this error, they are no longer able to act in a manner conducive to their own interests, or to take warning by the calamities which are visited upon them.

The Jews, I believe, were just in this state; for, instead of regarding this unexpected earthquake as a manifest indication that God was opposed to the re-erection of their temple, they proceeded to recommence the work. But all parties relate, that they had scarcely returned to the undertaking, when fire burst suddenly from the foundations of the temple, and consumed several of the workmen.

This fact is fearlessly stated, and believed by all; the only discrepancy in the narrative is that some maintain that flame burst from the interior of the temple, as the workmen were striving to force an entrance, while others say that the fire proceeded directly from the earth. In whichever way the phenomenon might have occurred, it is equally wonderful. A more tangible and still more extraordinary prodigy ensued; suddenly the sign of the cross appeared spontaneously on the garments of the persons engaged in the undertaking. These crosses were disposed like stars, and appeared the work of art. Many were hence led to confess that Christ is God, and that the rebuilding of the temple was not pleasing to Him; others presented themselves in the church, were initiated, and besought Christ, with hymns and supplications, to pardon their transgression. If any one does not feel disposed to believe my narrative, let him go and be convinced by those who heard the facts I have related from the eyewitnesses of them, for they are still alive. Let him inquire, also, of the Jews and pagans who left the work in an incomplete state, or who, to speak more accurately, were able to commence it.

So you consider this to be a new installment of the New Testament? an edict by a pagan emperor to thumb his nost towards Christians?

But her is what God has inspired:

Matthew 24:15-16 King James Version (KJV)
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

this has yet to happen!

2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Now we know that Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit declared we are the temple of God!

So we can only conclude one of two things- either Demons possess believers because they sit in the temple of God or that their has to be a rebuilt temple that the man of sin enters, and declares himself God

Revelation 11:1
And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
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Revelation 11:2
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Here the gentiles trample the temple and Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years! Which fits exactly with Daniels inspired prophesy and Jesus words:

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Once again let me repeat, just because god says the temple will be rebuilt and sacrifices started again, does not mean at all that he approves of them, for He doesn't. It is just reporting what will take place!
 
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Just because you alter scripture to fit your modern speculations does not make it so.

I believe altering your view to fit the scripture is the better way.

And that is exactly what I believe and that is why I know this invasion in Ez. 38-39 is still future. So you just look at the names- trace them historically to teh present and viola!

God said in Ez. 38:
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

The only time this could have happened yet is 1948 to teh present. This was the first time Israel came back to her land from many nations.

Remember prophesy is fulfilled here on planet earth and in time. And 1948 to present fits this exactly!
 
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Asia Minor was in the north.

Even recognized modernist futurites have debunked the Russia fallacy.

Russia's armaments today do not consist of horses, horsemen, bucklers, shields, and swords.

Today, neocon zionism makes an attack by Israel upon Russia far more probable than the reverse.


One person does not "futureites" make. Language, history and word etymology show this man in error!
Magog settled beyond turkey, so didn't Meshech and Tubal. Go to Georgia today and ask a georgian what is the colloquial name of the Caucausus mountains- they will tell you Ma-gogh or Gogs high tower!
Meshech became Moscow and Tubal became Tobolsk.

Well I am sorry you feel it necessary to chide god for His use of language! Maybe the next time you pray you can ask God why He didn't have Ezekiel write down T-84 tanks, SU-35 fighters MIg-41, AK-74's and BMP troop carriers. Or maybe He just spoke to Ezekiel in words Ezekiel could understand! but if you think this is not an end time prophesy- simply point us to that time in history8 when this prophesy was fulfiiled, unless you are declaring Ezekiel a false prophet.
 
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There is no reference to any identifiable geographic location in the explanation of the Hebrew.

Russia did not exist when Ezekiel wrote.

Asia Minor did.

In a direct line north from Israel!


No but Gog and Magog did and so didn't Rosh- and they are modern Russia. America didn't exist and neither did England AFAWK, but they also are mentioned most likeley by inference in Ezekiel as well.

Time is irrelavent to God He knows Past present and future! He knew that Meshech, Tubal, and Rosh would become part and parcel of Russia!
 
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And they shall dwell safely all of them.

The only time this could have happened yet is 1948 to teh present. This was the first time Israel came back to her land from many nations.

Remember prophesy is fulfilled here on planet earth and in time. And 1948 to present fits this exactly!

Exactly?
“And they shall dwell safely, ALL OF THEM”?
Summary of terrorist attacks in Israel

In fact, Israel's ongoing "UNSAFE" status proves Modern Israel is not the Covenant people of God.

On Wednesday, 3-27-02, a suicide bomber blew himself, and at least 19 Israelis into eternity. What many may be missing--in fact, some will not want to hear--is that the attack, taking place on Passover, has tremendous theological implications.

In 1967 the Arab league, led by Egypt, attacked Israel on Yom Kippur, the
Day of Atonement. This is one of Israel's most holy days of the year
. It seemed, in the first day or two, that Israel was doomed. However, that war lasted, due to Israel's amazing military prowess, only 6 Days. Millennialists hailed Israel's victory as a positive sign that Jehovah was protecting her, and that, of course, we must be living in the last days! Let's take a closer look.

Instead of being a proof that Modern Israel are God's chosen people, the Yom Kippur attack in 1967, and the attack on Passover on 3/27/02 prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Modern Israel is not in covenant relationship with Jehovah. We know this from scripture.

Read Exodus 34:23: "Three times in the year all your men shall appear before
the Lord, the Lord God of Israel [passover, pentecost, tabernacles]. For I will cast out the nations before you and enlarge your borders; neither will any man covet your land when you go up to appear before the Lord your God three times in the year." The promise here is simple and profound. As long as Israel was in covenant relationship with Jehovah, their enemies would not attack them during their holy feast days!

For 1500 years there were no attacks against Israel during her feast days [During the Mosaic Age]. However, the siege of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 took place, the city fell, during Pentecost. What are the implications of that attack in light of Exodus 34? The Seven Day War of 1967 took place on Yom Kippur, Israel's most Holy Day. What are the implications in light of Exodus 34? And the attack on Passover on 3-27-02. What are the ramifications of this attack, on Israel's Holy Day?

If Israel is still God's chosen people, that Palestinian bomber should never have been allowed by Jehovah to attack during the Passover. If Israel is still God's chosen people the attack of 1967 should never have happened. Instead of Israel's victory at that time being a sign of her elect status, it was, and is, a sign of the direct opposite. It proved, and proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Covenantal promise of Exodus 34 is no longer applicable! But if the Covenantal promise of Exodus 34 is no longer applicable, then the other promises of that Covenant, i.e., the promises of national restoration (e.g. Deuteronomy 30), are also now invalid, abrogated by Jehovah Himself.

Further, the attacks on Yom Kippur, and now Passover, also prove something else, a direct corollary to everything else. Either the Covenant promise of Exodus 34 is no longer valid, or, the people claiming to be Israel today are not the people of the Covenant of Exodus 34. If the Covenant of Exodus is still valid, but the people in Israel today were attacked in violation of Exodus 34, then what does it say about the identity of the people in Israel today? It says that they cannot be the people of the Covenant of Exodus 34!

Every time, and any time, that the Palestinians attack Israel during any of
her three feast days, Bible students everywhere should be trumpeting the
Biblical fact, that this proves, emphatically, and unequivocally, that Modern Geopolitical Israel is not the chosen people of God.
 
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Isaiah and thye prophets have much to say about life in the millenial kingdom. I will find the text I use to teach eschatology and write some down for you on Tuesday- my next day off!
I'll look forward to it.

Well I wouldn't say it is as indefinite as the Apostles- though they believed it was in their lifetime.

If the Holy, Inspired, INFALLIBLE 1st century apostles were WRONG about it, (as you insist they were), how can you be so sure that fallible 21st century internet guys such as yourself are Right?

but we are living in the last days of human history.

Rather, Holy Scripture teaches that the world will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)

They have the tools, the priests ephods, teach ritual sacrifice in Hebrew University, have quarried stone- so it is just for God to release them to do so!

Who are the Priests with the demonstrable Levitical lineage?

How did they demonstrate that lineage?

Do they (or you) know where the Urim and Thummim are (Ezra 2:63)??
They are biblically necessary to discern priestly genealogy of purported Jews who lost their familial records after being scattered (which would be every and any purported Jew alive today)

So, someone who already has proven priestly genealogy (which would be no one today) needs to find them and consult with them before any Temple rituals can take place, according to the Law...

Now, since Modern Jews don't follow the Law (which Biblically makes them uncircumcised heathen in Gods eyes according to scripture) they probably don't much care.
 
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