Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

Speak and act as those who will be judged by the Law of freedom and Mercy.

James 2:12

James 2:10-13 is an even stronger combo.

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

Grip Docility said:
I believe Him, too. The righteous became Sin for the unrighteous, that the unrighteous could be declared the righteousness of God.

How can someone who is well, claim they need The Good Physician?

Are you righteous by the Law of Moses, in your flesh?

No, not at all. That is the law of sin and death. I am born again of the Holy Spirit, Christ's gift to me.

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

Question for those who exalt that they don’t sin, on this thread.

Why did God die?

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
You are confused. Everyone here believes JESUS takes away our sins. It seems some think however that we can be saved by continuing in known unrepentant sin. This is unbiblical. Yep many are going to be disappointed come judgment day *MATTHEW 7:22-23; HEBREWS 10:26-31. JESUS saves us from sin not to continue in it *JOHN 8:31-36. Only those who endure temptation to the end BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD are the ones that received eternal life *JAMES 1:12.

Unrepentant sin is damning sin. If you know you have sinned you must repent.

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
No, not at all. That is the law of sin and death. I am born again of the Holy Spirit, Christ's gift to me.

Please explain to me if you live a single day without failing in flesh, heart or mind.

LoveGodsWord · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
Unrepentant sin is damning sin. If you know you have sinned you must repent.

So if someone professes to be a Christian and turns back to live in a life of known unrepentant sin are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God?

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
Unrepentant sin is damning sin. If you know you have sinned you must repent.

I’m admitting I sin before you, repenting before God and man. I’m confessing my sins one to another. Will He be faithful and Just?

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
So if someone professes to be a Christian and turns back to live in a life of known unrepentant sin are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God?

Do you still fail and find yourself in need to repent? I do.

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Speak and act as those who will be judged by the Law of freedom and Mercy.

James 2:12

James 2:10-13 is an even stronger combo.

You got it, brother! The Law of Liberty is more in depth than the law of the Ten Commandments. So let it be your measuring stick, rather than skimming the top layer of righteousness.

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Please explain to me if you live a single day without failing in flesh, heart or mind.

Walk in the Spirit.

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
So if someone professes to be a Christian and turns back to live in a life of known unrepentant sin are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God?

Unsaved, or never saved.

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

Grip Docility said:
I’m admitting I sin before you, repenting before God and man. I’m confessing my sins one to another. Will He be faithful and Just?

Only He can see your heart, whether you mean it or not. So far I haven't heard what your sins are...

LoveGodsWord · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
Unsaved, or never saved.

And who is HEBREWS 6:4-8 talking about? Those who were once BELIEVERS or UNBELIEVERS?

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
You got it, brother! The Law of Liberty is more in depth than the law of the Ten Commandments. So let it be your measuring stick, rather than skimming the top layer of righteousness.

Now, beware! Ravenous wolves reject His imputed Righteousness... Romans 4:1-6...

They will misinterpret that you walk by faith and not sight, not battling against flesh and blood, and attempt to have you reject Christ’s Cloak.

They will warm up to you and make it seem that you are self righteous, by speaking deceptively.

Now do you understand why I speak so clearly?

LoveGodsWord · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
You got it, brother! The Law of Liberty is more in depth than the law of the Ten Commandments. So let it be your measuring stick, rather than skimming the top layer of righteousness.

Once again you are confused the law of liberty is the 10 commandments *JAMES 2:8-12; ROMANS 13:8-10; MATTHEW 22:36-40. The LAW of sin and death is breaking them *1 JOHN 3:4; ROMANS 6:23; JAMES 1:15; 1 CORINTHIANS 15:56

ViaCrucis · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
Shouldn't the number of willful sins be zero?

Yes, but you and I are sinners, so it's never going to be zero--not in this mortal life.

-CryptoLutheran

Grip Docility · Jun 16, 2019

CharismaticLady said:
Only He can see your heart, whether you mean it or not. So far I haven't heard what your sins are...

Pick any of them... when I break 1, I break them all.

LoveGodsWord · Jun 16, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Now, beware! Ravenous wolves reject His imputed Righteousness... Romans 4:1-6...

They will misinterpret that you walk by faith and not sight, not battling against flesh and blood, as you rejecting Christ’s Cloak.

They will warm up to you and make it seem that you are self righteous, by speaking deceptively.

Now do you understand why I speak so clearly?

How do you know these scriptures are not referring to you or anyone else here? What does God's WORD teach on how to know if someone is from God or not from God *1 JOHN 2:3-4?

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
And who is HEBREWS 6:4-8 talking about? Those who were once BELIEVERS or UNBELIEVERS?

It seems believers, though I know those who have walked away and said they came back, and it seems God allowed them to repent. I can't speak of it first hand though, nor would I dare put God to the test!

CharismaticLady · Jun 16, 2019

ViaCrucis said:
Yes, but you and I are sinners, so it's never going to be zero--not in this mortal life.

-CryptoLutheran

Does Jesus call you a sinner, or a son?

John 8:34-36

Does willful sin separate the elect from God?

Does willful sin separate those once saved from God.

No, obedience is "works" and we are not saved by works.

Yes, willful sin must be repented from in order to stay saved.

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