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Here is a condensed version of how I think events unfold. The structure, especially at the beginning, is nothing more than reading Daniel 9:2 & Daniel 9:24-27 literally.

26 And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.

The end of it shall be with a flood,

And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate
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Here is a rundown of how this seems to play out.

According to Matthew 24:15, there has to be an anointed holy place for the abomination idol to desecrate - and that holy place can only be anointed at the end of '70 '7's per Daniel 9:24. In other words, the end of 70 '7's has to occur before the middle! By the traditional model, this cannot be - but, the solution is that it means literal weeks & years. Multiple layers happening simultaneously.

God's wrath is announced at the 6th Seal - rebellious 'Israel' has broken the covenant in the middle of 1 week. (end of 70 yrs, + 70 weeks, + 7 weeks, + 62 weeks, + 3.5 days to get to Dec 21, 2020. Dan 9:2 & 24-27 starts 1335 days). = Ezekiel 44:7 in admitting foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and flesh, to be in my sanctuary, profaning my temple, when you offer to me my food, the fat and the blood. You/ They have broken my covenant, in addition to all your abominations.

Rebellious Israel would then be punished on the 10th of Tevet by Babylon (people in Judea have to flee because the 10th of Tevet is coming in a few days, where Jerusalem will be attacked, Matthew 24:15-21) (Christmas day, 2020) (Ezekiel 24:1-2). Then, it is Babylon's turn to get punished for attacking Jerusalem and is warned for 40 days to repent a la Jonah & Nineveh (starting at dusk Dec 25, 2020 through dusk Feb 3, 2021. People who repent are part of the 'great multitude' & 144,000 of Revelation 7 who are 'saved out of the great tribulation' (Revelation 7:14).

The start of the great tribulation is the events of Trumpets 1-4 and is the judgment upon Babylon (the burning mountain of the 2nd Trumpet being a reference to Babylon as in Jeremiah 51:25). Here we start the 5 months of the 5th Trumpet & the locusts that cut off the daily sacrifice (Joel 1:4-9). The Medes/ Gog? are attacking Babylon as punishment for Babylon attacking Jerusalem, and that attack was punishment for rebellious Israel/ Jerusalem breaking the covenant by allowing foreigners in the sanctuary.

Notice that in Revelation 2
20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works

This verse correlates to the 6th Trumpet in Revelation 9:20
The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk, 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.

Jezebel/ Mystery Babylon, the 'city that rules the world' (Revelation 17:15-18), is given time to repent, but as the 6th Trumpet notes, they don't repent. The 'great tribulation' was delayed for Mystery Babylon for 5 months, but they don't repent. The end of the 5 months delay would be July 4, 2021, which would 'break the covenant'/ Declaration of Independence in the middle of 70 '7' years/ 245 yrs. July 4, 1776 + 245 = July 4, 2021. This would be the start of the great tribulation for the USA/ Mystery Babylon and the start of WWIII apparently. Presumably, the US would go into martial law & the 10 FEMA regions seem to be the 10 horns that burn the harlot/ Jezebel/ USA and join the beast.

The end of WWIII would end with a peace treaty on Oct 31, 2021 (Halloween with an image unto the beast) and seems to result in the start of the 2 witnesses 1260 days which would start on Nov 27, 2021/ 24 Kislev (Haggai 2:18).

The same as Daniel 9:26-27 at the end of the war/ end of WWIII, then there is a covenant

26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its/ His end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

27And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week and for half of the week/ in the middle of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”​

this covenant seems to be what is going on in Ezekiel 44:8 And you have not kept charge of my holy things, but you have set others to keep my charge for you in my sanctuary.

And this would correlate to Revelation 11:2's outer court being given over to the Gentiles/ nations. The outer court would be given over to Messiah Ben Joseph & ben David (non- Israeli's) who would presumably have control of burnt animal sacrifices. The inner court would be led by the 2 witnesses.

The person who is appointing others to take care of the holy things/ people is the worthless shepherd of Zechariah 11

15 Then the Lord said to me, “Take once more the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16For behold, I am raising up in the land a shepherd who does not care for those being destroyed, or seek the young or heal the maimed or nourish the healthy, but devours the flesh of the fat ones, tearing off even their hoofs.

17“Woe to my worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!
May the sword strike his arm
and his right eye!
Let his arm be wholly withered,
his right eye utterly blinded!”

This is the 'mortally head wounded' individual of Revelation 13:3 that is worshiped 3.5 years later at the start of the 7th Trumpet. This has to be a new 'rebellious act' because it is getting 7 more punishments/ 7 bowls of wrath as per Leviticus 26:18 And if in spite of this you will not listen to me, then I will discipline you again sevenfold for your sins,
 
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What I find interesting about Revelation 2:20 & Revelation 9:20 is that it is Jezebel who is leading people into the great tribulation. And since the 6th Trumpet has such a strong connection to the USA, with the end of the 5 months ending on July 4, 2021, Jezebel must have some sort of connection with the USA.

Revelation 2
19“‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first. 20But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 22Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, 23and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works. 24But to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not learned what some call the deep things of Satan, to you I say, I do not lay on you any other burden. 25Only hold fast what you have until I come. 26The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, 27and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
I think the normal interpretation of Jezebel is that this is a metaphor for the unfaithful church, or unfaithful church leader like the Pope. And surely it does mean that, but what if it additionally meant something even more specific, like a female US presidential candidate? (Remember that from the US inauguration date, dusk Jan 20, 2021 to dusk July 3, 2024 is 1260 days & the 1261st day would be the 'Independence Day'. Date Calculator: Add to or Subtract From a Date – Results

Is it possible that Jezebel is one of the current Democratic presidential candidates? (this isn't an endorsement of any Republican candidate, as the Rep logo with its 3 Satanic pentagrams should tell you everything you need to know). This is just speculation, but it is interesting to look at this possibility, because there is a specific US Dem presidential candidate that seems to fit the description of Jezebel pretty well:

Marianne Williamson. Marianne Williamson - Wikipedia

Jezebel is called a 'prophetess' & Marianne W. is a 'new age guru' with books like 'Illuminata , 'A year of miracles', 'The Law of Divine Compensation', 'The Age of Miracles', & 'Healing the Soul of America', etc. She is a regular guest on tv shows like Oprah.

And also there is this 'seducing my servants [...] to eat food sacrificed to idols.' And here from Williamson's wiki page:

In 1989, she launched Project Angel Food to build off the work of the Centers for Living. Originally launched to support HIV/AIDS patients, Project Angel Food expanded its outreach and currently cooks and delivers more than 12,000 meals each week, free of charge, to the homes of men, women and children affected by various life-threatening illnesses.[27] The organization's food and nutrition services, including medically tailored meals and nutritional counseling, help under-served people throughout Los Angeles County who are too sick to shop or cook for themselves. In 2017, Project Angel Food served its 11 millionth meal.​

seems to be more than a coincidence.
 
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@tranquil why are you having a holy one comes on October 10, 2019 and a holy one comes again on Dec 17, 2020 ?

Who is the person (in biblical terms) and what role is he in on Oct 10, 2019 and then later on Dec 17, 2020

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@tranquil Do you know what would improve your chart? If you would insert a line between.... as an example:

the Oct 10, 2019 line.............End of 7 weeks

(insert a line here).................434 days pass

the Dec 17, 2020 line.............End of 62 weeks
 
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@tranquil you wrote...."According to Matthew 24:15, there has to be an anointed holy place for the abomination idol to desecrate - and that holy place can only be anointed at the end of '70 '7's per Daniel 9:24"
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Well, it doesn't say in Daniel 9:24 to anoint the Most Holy "place" in the KJV.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

What I think it is talking about is anointing Jesus as the King of Israel on the day he returns.

In Psalms 2, why do the heathen rage and image a vain thing?

6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
 
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@tranquil why are you having a holy one comes on October 10, 2019 and a holy one comes again on Dec 17, 2020 ?

Who is the person (in biblical terms) and what role is he in on Oct 10, 2019 and then later on Dec 17, 2020

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Because Daniel 9:25 says that an anointed one comes after 7 weeks & also after 62 weeks. Maybe this is the same anointed one, maybe not.

end of 70 years from Daniel 9:2, then 70 weeks (Aug 22, 2019), then add 7 weeks (Oct 10, 2019) and then 62 weeks (Dec 17, 2020)

I don't know who that person is.

Cyrus was an anointed person, Isaiah 45:1 and in the modern context, Pres. Trump is made out to be this person. (it's possible that the holy place that is anointed is Trumptown, but we'll have to wait & see - the June 12 celebration was postponed. Trumptown in Golan Now Taking Applications)

The history seems murky? but I think the Biblical arrangement is that Cyrus appointed Zerubabbel (puppet governor of Judea) & Joshua (high priest). So, there are 3 anointed ones. And like I keep saying new Zerubabbel & new Joshua are the 2 witnesses.

this fractal/ pattern is repeated in the end times in that the worthless shepherd of Zechariah 11:17 & Ezekiel 44:8 appoints others to keep charge over the holy people & things (temple). That is what is going on in Revelation 13:2-4 where the dragon is giving over his charge to the wicked to take care of God's holy people & things.

Cyrus appoints Zerubabbel & Joshua// worthless shepherd leaves the flock & gives over the holy things he should have been taking care of to others.
 
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@tranquil Do you know what would improve your chart? If you would insert a line between.... as an example:

the Oct 10, 2019 line.............End of 7 weeks

(insert a line here).................434 days pass

the Dec 17, 2020 line.............End of 62 weeks

Yeah, I tried to make it all fit on 1 page..
 
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@tranquil you wrote...."According to Matthew 24:15, there has to be an anointed holy place for the abomination idol to desecrate - and that holy place can only be anointed at the end of '70 '7's per Daniel 9:24"
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Well, it doesn't say in Daniel 9:24 to anoint the Most Holy "place" in the KJV.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

What I think it is talking about is anointing Jesus as the King of Israel on the day he returns.

In Psalms 2, why do the heathen rage and image a vain thing?

6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

in Hebrew, the 'most Holy' there in Daniel 9:24 is 'qodesh qadasim', more literally translated as 'holiest holy' and it is used in regards to people or places or things.

Daniel 9:24 Interlinear: 'Seventy weeks are determined for thy people, and for thy holy city, to shut up the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to cover iniquity, and to bring in righteousness age-during, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the holy of holies.
 
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You jump from 70 years to (7 + 62 literal weeks) to 7 years. There is inconsistency in that rational of years - to literal weeks - and back to years.

You are placing everything in the end times. And are giving no recognition of the destruction of the temple and city in 70 AD. And are giving no recognition to the 70 weeks of years as being a prophecy about Jesus and him being crucified.

Which Jesus said to the Jews of their day, the temple of their day, would be destroyed. And it happened in 70 AD.
 
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Here is a rundown of how this seems to play out.

According to Matthew 24:15, there has to be an anointed holy place for the abomination idol to desecrate - and that holy place can only be anointed at the end of '70 '7's per Daniel 9:24. In other words, the end of 70 '7's has to occur before the middle! By the traditional model, this cannot be - but, the solution is that it means literal weeks & years. Multiple layers happening simultaneously.

God's wrath is announced at the 6th Seal - rebellious 'Israel' has broken the covenant in the middle of 1 week. (end of 70 yrs, + 70 weeks, + 7 weeks, + 62 weeks, + 3.5 days to get to Dec 21, 2020. Dan 9:2 & 24-27 starts 1335 days). = Ezekiel 44:7 in admitting foreigners, uncircumcised in heart and flesh, to be in my sanctuary, profaning my temple, when you offer to me my food, the fat and the blood. You/ They have broken my covenant, in addition to all your abominations.

Rebellious Israel would then be punished on the 10th of Tevet by Babylon (people in Judea have to flee because the 10th of Tevet is coming in a few days, where Jerusalem will be attacked, Matthew 24:15-21) (Christmas day, 2020) (Ezekiel 24:1-2). Then, it is Babylon's turn to get punished for attacking Jerusalem and is warned for 40 days to repent a la Jonah & Nineveh (starting at dusk Dec 25, 2020 through dusk Feb 3, 2021. People who repent are part of the 'great multitude' & 144,000 of Revelation 7 who are 'saved out of the great tribulation' (Revelation 7:14).

The start of the great tribulation is the events of Trumpets 1-4 and is the judgment upon Babylon (the burning mountain of the 2nd Trumpet being a reference to Babylon as in Jeremiah 51:25). Here we start the 5 months of the 5th Trumpet & the locusts that cut off the daily sacrifice (Joel 1:4-9). The Medes/ Gog? are attacking Babylon as punishment for Babylon attacking Jerusalem, and that attack was punishment for rebellious Israel/ Jerusalem breaking the covenant by allowing foreigners in the sanctuary.

Notice that in Revelation 2
20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. 22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works

This verse correlates to the 6th Trumpet in Revelation 9:20
The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk, 21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.

Jezebel/ Mystery Babylon, the 'city that rules the world' (Revelation 17:15-18), is given time to repent, but as the 6th Trumpet notes, they don't repent. The 'great tribulation' was delayed for Mystery Babylon for 5 months, but they don't repent. The end of the 5 months delay would be July 4, 2021, which would 'break the covenant'/ Declaration of Independence in the middle of 70 '7' years/ 245 yrs. July 4, 1776 + 245 = July 4, 2021. This would be the start of the great tribulation for the USA/ Mystery Babylon and the start of WWIII apparently. Presumably, the US would go into martial law & the 10 FEMA regions seem to be the 10 horns that burn the harlot/ Jezebel/ USA and join the beast.

The end of WWIII would end with a peace treaty on Oct 31, 2021 (Halloween with an image unto the beast) and seems to result in the start of the 2 witnesses 1260 days which would start on Nov 27, 2021/ 24 Kislev (Haggai 2:18).

The same as Daniel 9:26-27 at the end of the war/ end of WWIII, then there is a covenant

26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its/ His end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

27And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week and for half of the week/ in the middle of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”​

this covenant seems to be what is going on in Ezekiel 44:8 And you have not kept charge of my holy things, but you have set others to keep my charge for you in my sanctuary.

And this would correlate to Revelation 11:2's outer court being given over to the Gentiles/ nations. The outer court would be given over to Messiah Ben Joseph & ben David (non- Israeli's) who would presumably have control of burnt animal sacrifices. The inner court would be led by the 2 witnesses.

The person who is appointing others to take care of the holy things/ people is the worthless shepherd of Zechariah 11

15 Then the Lord said to me, “Take once more the equipment of a foolish shepherd. 16For behold, I am raising up in the land a shepherd who does not care for those being destroyed, or seek the young or heal the maimed or nourish the healthy, but devours the flesh of the fat ones, tearing off even their hoofs.

17“Woe to my worthless shepherd,
who deserts the flock!
May the sword strike his arm
and his right eye!
Let his arm be wholly withered,
his right eye utterly blinded!”

This is the 'mortally head wounded' individual of Revelation 13:3 that is worshiped 3.5 years later at the start of the 7th Trumpet. This has to be a new 'rebellious act' because it is getting 7 more punishments/ 7 bowls of wrath as per Leviticus 26:18 And if in spite of this you will not listen to me, then I will discipline you again sevenfold for your sins,
To difficult to follow. Condense it down (your version). For example.

1. Gog/Magog event
2. then the seven years
3. then Jesus returns.
 
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You jump from 70 years to (7 + 62 literal weeks) to 7 years. There is inconsistency in that rational of years - to literal weeks - and back to years.

You are placing everything in the end times. And are giving no recognition of the destruction of the temple and city in 70 AD. And are giving no recognition to the 70 weeks of years as being a prophecy about Jesus and him being crucified.

Which Jesus said to the Jews of their day, the temple of their day, would be destroyed. And it happened in 70 AD.

Both 'weeks' & 'years' have to be used.

Matt 24
15“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),

The 'abomination' happens in the 'middle of the 7' right?

Where is it standing? In the holy place.

But Daniel 9:24 says it takes all 70 '7's to create the 'holy place'.

You are putting the cart before the horse with the way you interpret Daniel 9. Here is the standard model:
covenant made
covenant broken with abomination in the middle of the 7
holy place at the end of the 7​

but Jesus says that the abomination occurs in the holy place... see the difference? No holy place for the abomination to defile in your model.
Mine:
start 7 years with covenant (this covenant has already been made)
70 '7's have to occur to create a holy place
then covenant made after 69 weeks
covenant broken after half a week (3.5 days) in the holy place
7 year covenant broken in the middle of 7 years
holy place anointed after 7 years

If it is to all fit in 7 years, there has to be a literal 70 weeks/ 490 days period within that 7 years to create a holy place.
(My model is actually 7 years + 7 months)

 
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