Young earth creationism & 40000 year old frozen wolf

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Young earth creationism says the world is in the order of 10000 years old. How does it account for a 40000 year old wolf's head?

The problem is only if you happen to believe that the 40000 is correct. I think it is possible that it is not correct. However, I think also that it is possible that world is older than 10000 years.
 
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The YEC fantasies and misunderstandings are not the word of God.
Please explain for me Exodus 20:11. How is this NOT the word of God.
"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

There are NO verses in the Bible to support an old earth or evolution. Such belief is a rejection of God's word. Proclaiming such beliefs to be true is heresy.
 
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Please explain for me Exodus 20:11. How is this NOT the word of God.
"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

There are NO verses in the Bible to support an old earth or evolution. Such belief is a rejection of God's word. Proclaiming such beliefs to be true is heresy.
The YEC fantazies that days were 24 hours days, that its a technical scientific description, that it all happened 6,000 years ago, that Noah had to take pinguins, kangaroos and dinosaurs to his ark etc. are not the word of God.

And if you read carefully, your verse is not God speaking, but Moses speaking. Are you a Seventh Day Adventists? Do you keep Sabbath?
 
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And if you read carefully, your verse is not God speaking, but Moses speaking.
Ever read the Bible? Ever read the passage? The 10 Commandments were carved by the finger of God on stone tablets. You're speaking without the slightest grasp of the subject.

As for what Noah took into the ark, it was two of every kind. Speciation happened afterward as the animals went out and multiplied. It continues on today as animals adapt to various environments. The lie of a single common progenitor is directly contradicted by God's word. Your belief can only be supported by the lies of man, not the word of God. I CHALLENGE you to provide passages to support your claim. It quite simply cannot be done.
 
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Ever read the Bible? Ever read the passage? The 10 Commandments were carved by the finger of God on stone tablets. You're speaking without the slightest grasp of the subject.
Ever read the Bible? The original 10 commandments were destroyed before Moses even went down from the mountain. Please do some basic study. Even the simple fact that its written about the Lord from the view of a third person should strike you.
As for what Noah took into the ark, it was two of every kind.
Wrong again. Sometimes 7 animals, sometimes 2, when animals were unclean. How many dinosaurs of every kind Noah took? Were dinosaurs clean or unclean? And pinguins? 7 or 2?
Speciation happened afterward
Speciation happens all the time, before it, after it, now, tomorrow.


So, are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
 
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Which is quite funny, because ICR complains about a supposed bias from "anti-bible editors", while they whole existence is based on a specific biblical reading and is therefore biased as much as possible.
Why the ICR does not publish studies proving evolution and long age?


What proof?
 
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Ever read the Bible? The original 10 commandments were destroyed before Moses even went down from the mountain.
Wrong. Moses destroyed the tablets after he came down from the mountain and saw the people worshiping a golden calf.
Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
Moses destroyed them and God restored them, but they were, in fact, carved by the finger of God.
Sometimes 7 animals, sometimes 2,
Yes, two was the minimum. Of some it was seven.
As for your other questions, the Bible doesn't specify which kinds were brought aboard the ark, nor does it specify what it means by "kind." It's a book of faith, not science.
 
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I had a look at one of them and they give reasons why they don't get published in peer reviewed scientific journals Do Creation Scientists Publish in Mainstream Journals?


Then you understand that the reasons why YEC articles generally do not get published in mainstream scientific journals does not necessarily have anything to do with science but because those in control of the mainstream scientific community have an animosity towards God and will not allow anything to be published in their journals that challenge the evolutionary theory, even if those challenges to evolution are scientifically valid. They themselves will not enter into Heaven and yet they are among those who will keep others from entering who otherwise would. (Mt. 23:13)
 
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The problem is only if you happen to believe that the 40000 is correct. I think it is possible that it is not correct. However, I think also that it is possible that world is older than 10000 years.
The 40000 is of course an estimate based on one or more dating methods applied to the samples in labs in Sweden, Japan and Russia. Even if it were 50% off which it isn't, that would still make the wolf's head older than 10000 years.
 
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As for your other questions, the Bible doesn't specify which kinds were brought aboard the ark, nor does it specify what it means by "kind." It's a book of faith, not science.
Great! Now you realized the nonsense of the YEC science and of the Seventh Day Adventism.
 
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Great! Now you realized the nonsense of the YEC science and of the Seventh Day Adventism.
1. I'm not a seventh Day Adventist.
2. The work of God is NOT nonsense.
3. If you can't support your assertions with actual Scripture you're being a heretic. The gauntlet has been laid down. Anything not truth is a lie. My assertions conform with the word of God. Please show how yours do or admit you're lying. I've already proved you claimed falsely that God did NOT write the 10 Commandments.
 
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Then you understand that the reasons why YEC articles generally do not get published in mainstream scientific journals does not necessarily have anything to do with science but because those in control of the mainstream scientific community have an animosity towards God and will not allow anything to be published in their journals that challenge the evolutionary theory, even if those challenges to evolution are scientifically valid. They themselves will not enter into Heaven and yet they are among those who will keep others from entering who otherwise would. (Mt. 23:13)
The papers are most likely rejected because they don't provide adequate scientific evidence to support their claims. It would be more honest to make it clear that the proposals are faith claims rather than scientific hypotheses. Unfortunately YECs have opened the door to flat earthers claiming scientific validity for their ideas which also come from a particular reading of the Bible that treats it as a scientific treatise. If the Bible were meant to be treated that way, it's rather lacking in detail. If science was limited to the Bible, we'd have to live like the Amish (whose sincerity in eschewing modern inventions because of their faith I admire).
 
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1. I'm not a seventh Day Adventist.
The YEC is invented by them. You are following them, knowing it or not.
2. The work of God is NOT nonsense.
But the YEC is.

3. If you can't support your assertions with actual Scripture you're being a heretic.
In that case the YEC is a heretic movement.

Anything not truth is a lie.
Surprisingly.
My assertions conform with the word of God.
No.

Please show how yours do or admit you're lying.
Bible is not a scientific book, keep the idea you realized few minutes ago.

I've already proved you claimed falsely that God did NOT write the 10 Commandments.
The verse you quoted is not written by God, God is a third person there. Why would God speak about some Lord? He is the Lord. So its somebody else (human writer) talking about God.
 
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The YEC is invented by them.

False. The Bible establishes a six day creation in Genesis one and God Himself affirms it in Exodus 20:11.

In that case the YEC is a heretic movement.

Lie. Christ also affirmed every word of the Scriptures including speaking of man and woman in the beginning and directly quoting Genesis, and also by affirming the Biblical account of Noah and the flood.

Bible is not a scientific book,

Scientific is not a synonym for truth. The Bible is a book of truth. Science is quite simply the study of the physical word. It can neither affirm or decry anything supernatural. It can only offer theories based on physical data.
IF???
Where would the word of God come from if not from God?
As I said, your belief can only be supported by the lies of man, not the word of God. I CHALLENGE you to provide passages to support your claim. I'm still waiting.
 
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False. The Bible establishes a six day creation in Genesis one and God Himself affirms it in Exodus 20:11.

Lie. Christ also affirmed every word of the Scriptures including speaking of man and woman in the beginning and directly quoting Genesis, and also by affirming the Biblical account of Noah and the flood.

Scientific is not a synonym for truth. The Bible is a book of truth. Science is quite simply the study of the physical word. It can neither affirm or decry anything supernatural. It can only offer theories based on physical data.

IF???
Where would the word of God come from if not from God?
As I said, your belief can only be supported by the lies of man, not the word of God. I CHALLENGE you to provide passages to support your claim. I'm still waiting.
Actually the Word is Jesus.
 
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