Your experiences of spiritual attacks

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The problem is I can't say "in the name of Jesus, ..." if I am not certain what I mean or what I believe. The words aren't the key - it is the beliefs and feelings and intentions. I can say words, but they are empty.
It is not difficult to believe. If God said or did something... then your ability to believe is empowered by His integrity and truthfulness. It is not a matter of your ability to agree or choose or concentrate real hard or talk yourself into accepting something.

Acts 2:36 says:
"God has made... Jesus... to be both Lord and Christ." (para)

He is Lord regardless of what we choose or think. God made Him Lord, and He made Him Lord of all. There is authority in His name and we can use that name to chase off demons. Done it many times. I cast a fever out of my infant son. I have taken authority over situations where demons were raging in people. I have been present where demons were cast out of people with physical manifestations.
The scripture says this sign follows me... as well as all believers: "we cast out devils in Jesus name..."
So we do...
 
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A problem is that demons are dumping their problem into us, when they spiritually attack us.

For example, they are anti-forgiveness; so they mess with our relating with another person, then attack us with their unforgiveness, in order to break us down so they can control us.

So, they are not at all being kind and trying to bring us back to God.
According to the gospels we should "bless those who curse you". Humans should have goodwill towards demons and wish the best for them even if demons behave maliciously towards us at times. Think how awful it would be for an angel to fall from grace and become a demon. If we try to to have some empathy for demons and treat them with respect and compassion then maybe it will help them change their direction and return to grace. Sometimes people get into a vicious downward spiral and need some outside intervention to turn it around.
 
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Interesting... those cramps don't just disappear on their own normally (I know from experience LOL). Supposedly magnesium helps. Also I try to avoid eating anything substantial before sleep, because I think digestion dehydrates you and causes cramps.

No they don't. I've had them since, but was never lead to believe they were anything more than a loss of magnesium. That is the only time I've ever been literally attacked by a demon. What was so remarkable is that out of a sound sleep, I instantly knew it was a demon and what to do.
 
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No they don't. I've had them since, but was never lead to believe they were anything more than a loss of magnesium. That is the only time I've ever been literally attacked by a demon. What was so remarkable is that out of a sound sleep, I instantly knew it was a demon and what to do.
I suspect I am dealing with a similar situation. My mother has very serious pain problems. There is a potential that she will be paralyzed from the neck down, and she is in a lot of pain. The neurosurgeons said surgery is too risky. This all began two weeks ago after I saw a signal that has seemed to warn of spiritual danger. I can't explain the reasons for my suspicions of a spiritual attack even to family members, but I probably have a responsibility to do what I can spiritually given my suspicions. The problem is my own lack of confidence spiritually now that I no longer have faith in Christianity.
 
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About 10 years ago I felt rightly or wrongly that I was being spiritually attacked. The experiences convinced me that there must be some truth to Christianity, so I rapidly began taking Christianity VERY seriously again after having walked away from it 20 years earlier. I couldn't sleep more than about an hour a night for a week, because it felt like "they" were trying to put thoughts in my head. My aunt had been through something like that earlier and gave me some words of comfort and a simple prayer to get rid of demons (I can't remember the Christian term). I didn't like saying that prayer, but it seemed like it helped the few times I prayed it - something about "blah blah blah ... in Jesus name ... blah blah blah". I actually felt that demons should be treated with compassion and respect rather than ordered around. After all, demons are supposed to be angels who made some mistakes in life - not unlike us humans. We ought to be trying to help them return to their former state by being kind to them. That was my thinking at the time. Of course now I am basically an atheist.

So I forgot what my point was LOL

Being kind doesn't mean being a doormat. When somebody or something violates your rights, you do have the right to ask them to leave you or those you love alone.
 
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I suspect I am dealing with a similar situation. My mother has been suffering terrible neck and back pain the last two weeks. At first the neurosurgeons wanted to operate immediately, but after deliberations they said it was too risky. So now we are home from the hospital and somebody must watch my mother 24x7 to help her out of of bed, pull her pants up and down in the bathroom and so forth. It isn't easy. For example, I was sitting with her on the bed, and she kept saying things like "Mother, don't leave me!", "The light is so bright it hurts my eyes!", "I hurt! I hurt!"... Not fun for me. When she gets in that state, I can't even give her a pain pill because she is too confused to swallow it.

But, I have been thinking about this, and I strongly suspect it is a demon. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a certain type of insect in a certain location. I had either psychosis or a spiritual attack about 10 years ago, and since that time seeing this type of insect has seemed to signal spiritual danger to me. My problem 10 years ago began with this same signal along with many other weird things. ... So I noticed this warning signal. Then that evening my mother's back and neck pain became extremely bad. The next day she almost passed-out from pain as I was trying to get her to the chiropractor. The chiropractors were afraid to touch her, so there was a doctor visit next. The doctor was on vacation, and his nurse didn't comprehend the seriousness. By the end of the week the doctor finally prescribed some pain medicines and ordered an MRI. We managed to do the MRI (not easy for a person in such pain). The next day instead of seeing the doctor we were told to check into the hospital immediately for possible bleeding of the spinal cord. Then after a week of discomfort and worry in the hospital the neurosurgeons finally decided it was too risky to do anything.

In the many hours of hospital boredom I was thinking about the warning signal I saw and wondering about the reason for my mother's suffering. I noticed the brand name of the hospital bed would be pronounced the same as my sister-in-law's name. My sister-in-law is in the process of divorcing my brother and this has gradually created anger and a resentment towards her - especially in my mother. So I suspect this anger and inability to forgive my sister-in-law may have opened the door to a demon that is now responsible for this horrible pain in my mother.

Apparently the thing that showed-up on the MRI has been present for years and maybe from birth. The doctors can only speculate about why there is all this pain now, because nothing is obviously wrong.

So my plan is to explain my suspicions to my mother, so she can focus on forgiving my sister-in-law. Then maybe I will need to pray to "cast-out" this demon. Then hopefully my mother will begin to heal any physical problems without the extra burden of spiritual problem.

But how am I going to "cast-out" a demon when I no longer believe in Christianity? That's a problem LOL. Hopefully I can persuade other family members who still believe to pray about it.

Another odd thing is the day I saw this warning signal all the joints in my body began swelling. For the first week I was trying to take my mother to and from doctors and I barely had the strength to turn a doorknob due to all the swelling in my wrists and hands. That was kind of weird too. Maybe it was stress or maybe it was spiritual.

Sorry to write a book. Just trying to organize my thoughts and plan. I am open to suggestions from anybody.

What if you take "demon" out of the picture,

What are you left with?
 
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The problem is I can't say "in the name of Jesus, ..." if I am not certain what I mean or what I believe. The words aren't the key - it is the beliefs and feelings and intentions. I can say words, but they are empty.

What does Bart Ehrman suggest?
 
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What if you take "demon" out of the picture,

What are you left with?
Without the demon then it is an extreme pain problem with no obvious cause. My mother has a very dangerous growth in her spine that puts her at risk of paralysis, but that growth may have been there her entire life. The doctors are uncertain why my mother has been in all this pain.
 
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What does Bart Ehrman suggest?
Bart Ehrman suggests "eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall die". LOL ... Seriously I don't know what Bart Ehrman would suggest. Apparently one reason he lost faith in God was the suffering and death of one of his parents and the false hope of spiritual remedies.
 
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Humans should have goodwill towards demons and wish the best for them even if demons behave maliciously towards us at times. /QUOTE]
Better to simply rebuke them as Jesus did, by quoting Scriptures. Darkness flees from light. No demon can stand against the presence of the holy spirit any more than Legion could remain in the presence of Christ.
 
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At the risk of sounding like a lunatic, I can sense demons approaching or their presence in a place if I approach where they are. I usually can't see them or hear them, but I can feel them, know where they are, which direction they are coming from or going toward. I can sense a general size or shape, and usually if it is only one or more than one. I can also sense the mood or overall intentions from them.

On rare occasions I have seen spirits, but only small glimpses for very short moments. They move incredibly fast, and it seems they don't like it when they are seen, or like they aren't really allowed to be seen.

On the upside, I think I can also sense angelic presence.

I have felt these things since I was a child. I didn't live in the best place. I believe it may have been because of Native American spiritual practices in the area. The region also has a high percentage of Wiccan practice, paganism, and satanic worship. Plus my family is plagued with very bad behaviors and mental illness, I believe caused by generational curses (although I don't understand generational curses as much as I would like).

Years ago I prayed that God would give me spiritual discernment so that I could determine if I really was sensing something and if it was good or evil. I believe he did gift me with that, and over time the discernment is stronger and more clear.

I want to say though, it's not often that I sense these things, and it is not something I seek out.
 
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Without the demon then it is an extreme pain problem with no obvious cause. My mother has a very dangerous growth in her spine that puts her at risk of paralysis, but that growth may have been there her entire life. The doctors are uncertain why my mother has been in all this pain.

That does not sound good, hope you have the energy to cope.
 
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I was curious if anybody wanted to share their experiences that seemed to be spiritual attacks....

Here are some of my questions:
- Was there a warning sign first?
- How did you react?
- How did the experience affect you long-term?

To be honest, this type of thing bothers me, because it adds a lot of uncertainty and confusion to an otherwise tidy naturalistic model of reality.

For me, the five senses have never been the end all, be all of reality. Science is constantly going back on itself, expanding on its discoveries, finding a new way to see the unknown in space, stuff like that. We already acknowledge that there are way more colors than what our eyes actually see. So just even from the science perspective, reality isn't neatly packaged and categorized. What we can see is different from what the mantis shrimp can see.

Recent years haunting stuff has been really bad for reasons, but me and my family have always been kind of sensitive. Here goes...

- The warning signs:
  • Starts with some kind of negativity in the area, may not necessarily be from you or people in your life. If you're in an apartment, and it's not from you but from an adjoining household, there will be a certain area of strongest activity that you can pinpoint.
  • Attracted to death and violence.
  • Epic contentions, like families coming apart from abuse, narcissism, sociopathy, stuff like that.
  • They like harassing anyone who is alone or vulnerable in some way.

- React:
  • This one time when I was trying to get some sleep, I felt this cold creeping up my legs. Oh, I was livid. I visualized a ball of light. I read to visualize it surrounding me like a shield. Nah. I went full Dragonball Z with it and "shot" it outward. Felt a definite response.
  • It is very simply a battle. The more doubts you have about things, the more vulnerable you are in battle. Beyond faith, you need to figure out if you're a fighter or not. If you're willing to stand your ground. When the time comes, just fight. Don't think too much about everything else, just refuse to let yourself be plowed over by the fear and negativity that's trying to push you around.
  • In the physical environment, claim it as your own. Post things that empower you, remind you to continue to improve yourself, and decorate with things that bring peace. Make the worst areas into a haven (if for some reason you can't just leave).
  • It will take some steps for you to reach a point where you can receive the best kind of help for this stuff. Until then, do things to keep your conscience clear. The better you feel as a person, the easier it'll be to fight.
  • Right now, my situation is caused by others who are sure of who I am and how I feel more than I am. So when they pray for me, the wrong kinds of prayers, taking responsibility for me in ways that they aren't responsible for, I get attacked. I clean it out, I've even taken on some of the suggestions from these forums, and it keeps on happening. So I prayed that everyone else will just be too busy to think of me. That's improved things a bit.
  • The nightmares are the toughest since I don't always have control of my dream self. But I have gotten to the point where I can instinctively pray or I am saved from the attacks, especially by praying about it beforehand.
- Long-term:
  • When I have room to breathe and grieve properly, I start to level out and normalize. Feel human again. Slowly recover. I've even reached points where I started to forget what it all felt like. But in between times, I go through these depressions, wondering why I'm alive, PTSD, etc.
  • Paradoxically, I have also become spiritually strong. When I get attacked, all that human stuff is set aside and I'm just focused on the battle. One battle used to take hours or days. Now it's minutes, usually a minute.
  • I no longer see things like I used to. That's why stuff "falls" off the wall instead if I let my guard down too much. A certain level of choice is involved. I can choose not to see things if I don't want to. I at least have that much protection.
  • So many things used to scare me. Not anymore.
 
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I suspect I am dealing with a similar situation. My mother has very serious pain problems. There is a potential that she will be paralyzed from the neck down, and she is in a lot of pain. The neurosurgeons said surgery is too risky. This all began two weeks ago after I saw a signal that has seemed to warn of spiritual danger. I can't explain the reasons for my suspicions of a spiritual attack even to family members, but I probably have a responsibility to do what I can spiritually given my suspicions. The problem is my own lack of confidence spiritually now that I no longer have faith in Christianity.

I'm sorry about your mother and the inability of anyone, even yourself, to help her. If you have full body exrays, you might want to seek out a chiropractor, seeing as medical doctors are not equipped to relieve pain other than with drugs or a knife. A chiropractor must first exam the exrays, and the radiologist's report to see if a simple manipulation of the bones will relieve a pinched nerve.
 
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I'm sorry about your mother and the inability of anyone, even yourself, to help her. If you have full body exrays, you might want to seek out a chiropractor, seeing as medical doctors are not equipped to relieve pain other than with drugs or a knife. A chiropractor must first exam the exrays, and the radiologist's report to see if a simple manipulation of the bones will relieve a pinched nerve.
Thanks, when I saw her a few minutes ago (Sunday) she seemed to be doing much better. She was able to walk around without grimacing in pain and clinging to a person. My sister is an MD and flew-in to help us this weekend. It is much more hopeful now.

I told my mother about my theory that her anger towards my brother's wife had made her vulnerable to a spiritual attack. She agreed that forgiveness was needed and we all prayed about it. Fortunately my mother led the prayer, so my uncertain religious notions were not a problem. So I have more hope today than I have had for a couple of weeks.

By the way, do you have Russian Blue cats? My mother's cat is a shelter cat that is partially Russian Blue. Her cat has a very unique personality LOL. That cat hides from everybody except my mother.
 
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Paradoxically, I have also become spiritually strong. When I get attacked, all that human stuff is set aside and I'm just focused on the battle. One battle used to take hours or days. Now it's minutes, usually a minute.
That is interesting, because I noticed the same thing about myself while I was going through experiences similar to those you describe. For example, there was a door that I used to "latch" by wedging a piece of cardboard between it and the frame. I remember the cardboard wedge being jerked suddenly while it was still in my hand like something was pulling it from the outside, and the whole door began shaking violently. I was startled for a moment, but I kept my hand on the cardboard wedge and yanked it back out and calmly put it back into place again. The door stopped shaking and that was the end of that experience. I don't consider myself a brave person, so I don't know why that didn't scare me. Those things NEVER scared me that I can recall. What scared me was ruminating later and realizing that I was clueless about the real nature of this world. That confusion made me shaky and depressed for years and still does.

That was how I learned to handle all the experiences. I didn't pray to rebuke the demons in Jesus name and so forth, because that seemed like overkill. For some reason I felt that these spiritual things were not allowed to actually harm me, so I viewed it as spiritual harassment. I also tried to have empathy for the evil spirits. Sometimes bad directions begin and they are difficult to change. The evil spirits want to become good spirits, but it is difficult for them due to the momentum towards evil behavior that they have established. Empathy for their predicament and respect for their nature might help them turn around. That was my thinking anyway.
 
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Thanks, when I saw her a few minutes ago (Sunday) she seemed to be doing much better. She was able to walk around without grimacing in pain and clinging to a person. My sister is an MD and flew-in to help us this weekend. It is much more hopeful now.

I told my mother about my theory that her anger towards my brother's wife had made her vulnerable to a spiritual attack. She agreed that forgiveness was needed and we all prayed about it. Fortunately my mother led the prayer, so my uncertain religious notions were not a problem. So I have more hope today than I have had for a couple of weeks.

By the way, do you have Russian Blue cats? My mother's cat is a shelter cat that is partially Russian Blue. Her cat has a very unique personality LOL. That cat hides from everybody except my mother.

Good to hear.
 
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Thanks, when I saw her a few minutes ago (Sunday) she seemed to be doing much better. She was able to walk around without grimacing in pain and clinging to a person. My sister is an MD and flew-in to help us this weekend. It is much more hopeful now.

I told my mother about my theory that her anger towards my brother's wife had made her vulnerable to a spiritual attack. She agreed that forgiveness was needed and we all prayed about it. Fortunately my mother led the prayer, so my uncertain religious notions were not a problem. So I have more hope today than I have had for a couple of weeks.

By the way, do you have Russian Blue cats? My mother's cat is a shelter cat that is partially Russian Blue. Her cat has a very unique personality LOL. That cat hides from everybody except my mother.

I always choose Siamese or a Siamese mix as I love cats with blue eyes. Right now I have none.
 
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