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The Prophet's Answer to Sundry Questions

Third ----"Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?

Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness.
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119
 
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19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: "they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof."

Joseph Smith, not God, said that all our creeds are an abomination in God's sight.

The Mormon endowment depicted a Protestant minister as a hireling of Satan.

Joseph Smith said of our Holy God:
“Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God. I say that is a strange God anyhow—three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organization anyhow. All are to be crammed into one God, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God—he would be a giant or a monster.”

Joseph Smith said that Presbyterians are wrong: 20 ..."I then said to my mother, 'I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.'"
(Pearl of Great Price | JS-History 1)

(FYI, I am not a Presbyterian.)
Yes God said all their creeds were an abomination in his sight and why did He say it? Because we know fine well that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are NOT of the same substance or essence. They are one of the same purpose just like when a man and woman are married and become one.
 
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Yes God said all their creeds were an abomination in his sight and why did He say it? Because we know fine well that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are NOT of the same substance or essence. They are one of the same purpose just like when a man and woman are married and become one.

Joseph Smith claimed that God said that, but God did not say that. You can't even talk about the True God because dzheremi has explained the Trinity over and over again, yet you think like Joseph Smith, a false prophet.

Christians know that God the Father does not have a body of flesh and bones and did not earn his Godhood; he does not have a wife or several wives!
 
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Joseph Smith claimed that God said that, but God did not say that. You can't even talk about the True God because dzheremi has explained the Trinity over and over again, yet you think like Joseph Smith, a false prophet.

Christians know that God the Father does not have a body of flesh and bones and did not earn his Godhood; he does not have a wife or several wives!
The creeds are NOT from God nor are they from His prophets. The Trinity is a man made concept, it is not from God. And dzheremi's explanation is just a way of trying to wiggle out of the meaning of substance. It seems to me that you do not believe that God the Father is a literal Father, but I do believe He is a literal Father.
 
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The creeds are NOT from God nor are they from His prophets. The Trinity is a man made concept, it is not from God. And dzheremi's explanation is just a way of trying to wiggle out of the meaning of substance. It seems to me that you do not believe that God the Father is a literal Father, but I do believe He is a literal Father.

No, you are wrong --- too bad. Mormonism is very much a man-made religion. God the Father is the best Father I ever had!
 
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You said: "PROVE it! Show us the plates." That was your first two sentences. It sounds like saying that you wanted a sign. I believe that you have been deceived.


Showing the plates is not a "sign." That's like saying if someone says show me the bible---and you say you can't cause that's a sign. A sign is some type of miracle or occurrence that would prove something else. God didn't just tell Moses the 10 commandments---He wrote them down with His own hand on stone---Moses could and did show those stone tablets. He did not snatch the tablets away so no one could see them. Moses could not show them God--The sign that Moses had been with God was obvious---His face shown so brightly they had to veil him.
 
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The creeds are NOT from God nor are they from His prophets. The Trinity is a man made concept, it is not from God. And dzheremi's explanation is just a way of trying to wiggle out of the meaning of substance. It seems to me that you do not believe that God the Father is a literal Father, but I do believe He is a literal Father.


They were of one substance before the incarnation. After the incarnation, Jesus remained human--yet still God. The Foh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. was never flesh and bone for Jesus said God is Spirit. Neither is the Holy Spirit. Only Jesus now has a human body--glorified-- as we will have after our resurrection.
 
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No, you are wrong --- too bad. Mormonism is very much a man-made religion. God the Father is the best Father I ever had!
Yes God the Father is the Father of spirits and He does have a wife:
(New Testament | Hebrews 12:9)

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8 - 10)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
(Old Testament | Psalms 82:6)

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
(Old Testament | Genesis 1:26 - 27)

26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

(New Testament | Revelation 12:1 - 2)

1 AND there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
 
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Showing the plates is not a "sign." That's like saying if someone says show me the bible---and you say you can't cause that's a sign. A sign is some type of miracle or occurrence that would prove something else. God didn't just tell Moses the 10 commandments---He wrote them down with His own hand on stone---Moses could and did show those stone tablets. He did not snatch the tablets away so no one could see them. Moses could not show them God--The sign that Moses had been with God was obvious---His face shown so brightly they had to veil him.
It would indeed be a miracle if I could show someone the golden plates. I don't have then nor do I know where they are.
 
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They were of one substance before the incarnation. After the incarnation, Jesus remained human--yet still God. The Foh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. was never flesh and bone for Jesus said God is Spirit. Neither is the Holy Spirit. Only Jesus now has a human body--glorified-- as we will have after our resurrection.
The Nicene Creed was written after Jesus was resurrected, and they still assumed they were of the same substance.
 
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Yes God the Father is the Father of spirits and He does have a wife:
(New Testament | Hebrews 12:9)

9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8 - 10)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
(Old Testament | Psalms 82:6)

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
(Old Testament | Genesis 1:26 - 27)

26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

(New Testament | Revelation 12:1 - 2)

1 AND there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.



None of that has a single thing to do with God having wives.
The woman in Rev is symbolic of the church and of Jesus--a woman in the bible represents the church. An adulteress woman was symbolic of the church leaving the faith---in the OT the children of Israel were often call an adulteress wife.
There are 2 women in Rev---the one with twelve stars around her---12 disciples, she gave birth to Jesus--the church--which Satan tried to kill both the child Jesus and the church with persecution. The chburch had the light of God and of the Son .
 
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The Nicene Creed was written after Jesus was resurrected, and they still assumed they were of the same substance.

So?? Doesn't change the fact that God and Jesus were one in essence and now Jesus is human--however He is still God and how that works not a single person in this universe knows.
 
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So?? Doesn't change the fact that God and Jesus were one in essence and now Jesus is human--however He is still God and how that works not a single person in this universe knows.
Including those thought they did and wrote the creed.
 
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None of that has a single thing to do with God having wives.
The woman in Rev is symbolic of the church and of Jesus--a woman in the bible represents the church. An adulteress woman was symbolic of the church leaving the faith---in the OT the children of Israel were often call an adulteress wife.
There are 2 women in Rev---the one with twelve stars around her---12 disciples, she gave birth to Jesus--the church--which Satan tried to kill both the child Jesus and the church with persecution. The chburch had the light of God and of the Son .
The woman is our mother:

(New Testament | Revelation 12:17)

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 
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They do not exist.
(Book of Mormon | Preface 8 Witnesses:1)

1 BE IT KNOWN unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

CHRISTIAN WHITMER
HIRAM PAGE
JACOB WHITMER
JOSEPH SMITH, SEN.
PETER WHITMER, JUN.
HYRUM SMITH
JOHN WHITMER
SAMUEL H. SMITH
 
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The woman is our mother:

(New Testament | Revelation 12:17)

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Has nothing to do with an actual woman--except for the Mother of Jesus. It is symbolic of the church. The church has many children---those who follow God are the remnant of her seed. Those are the faithful.
 
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(Book of Mormon | Preface 8 Witnesses:1)

1 BE IT KNOWN unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

CHRISTIAN WHITMER
HIRAM PAGE
JACOB WHITMER
JOSEPH SMITH, SEN.
PETER WHITMER, JUN.
HYRUM SMITH
JOHN WHITMER
SAMUEL H. SMITH

Relatives and cronies of his, some of which later recanted, some of those went back cause they had nothing else and nowhere else to go. If they had actually existed, they would still be here. No need to hide them away.
 
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Has nothing to do with an actual woman--except for the Mother of Jesus. It is symbolic of the church. The church has many children---those who follow God are the remnant of her seed. Those are the faithful.
So God is not really God the Father, it is just god the it? Not buying it. And God the Father does not have a wife because you said so.
 
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Relatives and cronies of his, some of which later recanted, some of those went back cause they had nothing else and nowhere else to go. If they had actually existed, they would still be here. No need to hide them away.
Not one of them ever recanted their witness of the Golden plates.
 
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