Greenland lost 2 billion tons of ice... yesterday

essentialsaltes · Jun 15, 2019

It's hard to fathom amounts that big, and that it can all happen in a day. But when you have a large enough area, melting ice can amount to a lot. The question is whether it's more or less than usual. In this case, it's more.

The sudden spike in melting "is unusual, but not unprecedented," according to Thomas Mote, a research scientist at the University of Georgia who studies Greenland's climate.

"It is comparable to some spikes we saw in June of 2012," Mote told CNN, referring to the record-setting melt year of 2012 that saw almost the entire ice sheet experience melting for the first time in recorded history.

This much melting this early in the summer could be a bad sign, indicating 2019 could once again set records for the amount of Greenland ice loss.

Jason Box, an ice climatologist at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland, predicted in late May that "2019 will be a big melt year for Greenland."

Box pointed out that this year had unusually early season melt days in April, and the melt season was "happening about three weeks earlier than average, and earlier than the record-setting melt year of 2012."

Strathos · Jun 15, 2019

Welp, time to sell my beachfront property.

KWCrazy · Jun 15, 2019

From the genetic material of these organisms, the researchers infer that Greenland’s temperature once varied from 50 degrees Fahrenheit in summer to 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in winter—the temperature range that the tree species prefer. source
I don't believe the world ended when Greenland was, in fact, a green land before.
Maybe we should be more concerned with our own lives and not worry about the world ending in another 200 years. Christ could return at any moment.

d taylor · Jun 15, 2019

The sun may be moving farther north in its movement like it was years ago when that area was more of a tropical climate. The sun had been moving farther south, but it may now be moving again farther north.

trophy33 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
From the genetic material of these organisms, the researchers infer that Greenland’s temperature once varied from 50 degrees Fahrenheit in summer to 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in winter—the temperature range that the tree species prefer. source
I don't believe the world ended when Greenland was, in fact, a green land before.
Maybe we should be more concerned with our own lives and not worry about the world ending in another 200 years. Christ could return at any moment.

Greenland was not green, it was under the ice for the whole human history. (the ice layers there are 400,000 years old).

The name "green land" was a lie to attract European colonists.

Aryeh Jay · Jun 15, 2019

How could this even happen in a socialist utopian wonderland.

USincognito · Jun 15, 2019

d taylor said:
The sun may be moving farther north in its movement like it was years ago when that area was more of a tropical climate. The sun had been moving farther south, but it may now be moving again farther north.

That literally isn't happening.

JackRT · Jun 15, 2019

d taylor said:
The sun may be moving farther north in its movement like it was years ago when that area was more of a tropical climate. The sun had been moving farther south, but it may now be moving again farther north.

https://climate.ncsu.edu/edu/Milankovitch

KWCrazy · Jun 15, 2019

myst33 said:
Greenland was not green, it was under the ice for the whole human history. (the ice layers there are 400,000 years old).

The southern part was not. Regardless, it's the most sparsely populated place on earth, so there's not a great deal of eyewitness events in its past.

iluvatar5150 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
From the genetic material of these organisms, the researchers infer that Greenland’s temperature once varied from 50 degrees Fahrenheit in summer to 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit in winter—the temperature range that the tree species prefer. source
I don't believe the world ended when Greenland was, in fact, a green land before.
Maybe we should be more concerned with our own lives and not worry about the world ending in another 200 years. Christ could return at any moment.

Nobody has said the world is going to end because of global warming. (but congrats on the strawman)

The data you're talking about is from half a million years ago. We've had several ice ages since then.

Concern for "our own lives" should include concern over changes in weather patterns that impact populated areas and rising sea levels that can wipe out populated coastlines.

trophy33 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
The southern part was not. Regardless, it's the most sparsely populated place on earth, so there's not a great deal of eyewitness events in its past.

There are many eyewitnesses who saw the ice layers. Its studied constantly by many laboratories, because its a good place for such study.

These ice layers go 400,000 years back.

KWCrazy · Jun 15, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
Concern for "our own lives" should include concern over changes in weather patterns that impact populated areas and rising sea levels that can wipe out populated coastlines.

The hubris of man is such that some believe we can control such things. I remember the warning that climate change was going to cause a record number of hurricanes to hit the US, which came before a ten year absence of them. This proves God has a sense of humor.

Brightmoon · Jun 15, 2019

USincognito said:
That literally isn't happening.

I think he’s trying to describe the milankovitch cycles and making a complete hash of it

This is scary

KWCrazy · Jun 15, 2019

myst33 said:
These ice layers go 400,000 years back.

Actually, researchers claim 40,000 years. You have one too many zeroes.
They can't explain, though, how and aircraft can be covered by 250 feet of ice in just 39 years if their claims about ice core dating are true.

iluvatar5150 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
The hubris of man is such that some believe we can control such things.

That we can impact such things is demonstrably true. To deny that is to embrace ignorance and shirk responsibility. This country along has enough nuclear material and industrial capacity to ruin the world several times over.

I remember the warning that climate change was going to cause a record number of hurricanes to hit the US, which came before a ten year absence of them.

You remember no such thing.
Is climate change making hurricanes worse?

This proves God has a sense of humor.

It proves your media sources lied to you.

iluvatar5150 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
Actually, researchers claim 40,000 years. You have one too many zeroes.
They can't explain, though, how and aircraft can be covered by 250 feet of ice in just 39 years if their claims about ice core dating are true.

How does something in the desert drown in flood water when they only get a couple inches of rain a year? The mind boggles.

Yes, in fact, those scientists can explain how that happens (ProTip: ice moves and doesn't accumulate at equal rates in every place) The fact that you don't possess certain knowledge doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Occams Barber · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
The southern part was not. Regardless, it's the most sparsely populated place on earth, so there's not a great deal of eyewitness events in its past.

From Greenland ice sheet - Wikipedia

The presence of ice-rafted sediments in deep-sea cores recovered from northeast Greenland, in the Fram Strait, and south of Greenland indicated the more or less continuous presence of either an ice sheet or ice sheets covering significant parts of Greenland for the last 18 million years. From about 11 million years ago to 10 million years ago, the Greenland Ice Sheet was greatly reduced in size. The Greenland Ice Sheet formed in the middle Miocene by coalescence of ice caps and glaciers. There was an intensification of glaciation during the Late Pliocene.[3] Ice sheet formation occurred in connection to uplift of the West Greenland and East Greenland uplands. The Western and Eastern Greenland mountains constitute passive continental margins that were uplifted in two phases, 10 and 5 million years ago, in the Miocene epoch.[A] Computer modelling shows that the uplift would have enabled glaciation by producing increased orographic precipitation and cooling the surface temperatures.[4] The oldest known ice in the current ice sheet is as old as 1,000,000 years old.[5]

Based on evidence. In this case mainly ice cores and computer projections.

OB

KWCrazy · Jun 15, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
You remember no such thing.

You're funny.
In 2006, CBS’s Hannah Storm Claims Katrina-like Storms Will Happen ‘All Along Our Atlantic and Gulf Coastlines.’ Just five days before Hurricane Katrina’s one year anniversary, CBS news anchor Hannah Storm featured climate alarmist Mike Tidwell on The Early Show to discuss his book, “The Ravaging Tide.” “I think the biggest lesson from Katrina a year later is that those same ingredients, you know, a city below sea level hit by a major hurricane, will be replicated by global warming all along our Atlantic and Gulf Coast lines,” Tidwell said on August 24, 2006....
source
I'm right, you're wrong. case closed.

trophy33 · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
Actually, researchers claim 40,000 years. You have one too many zeroes.

"The Greenland ice sheet is at least 400,000 to 800,000 years old."
Greenland used to be green

KWCrazy said:
They can't explain, though, how and aircraft can be covered by 250 feet of ice in just 39 years if their claims about ice core dating are true.

Who are "they"?

Brightmoon · Jun 15, 2019

KWCrazy said:
You're funny.
In 2006, CBS’s Hannah Storm Claims Katrina-like Storms Will Happen ‘All Along Our Atlantic and Gulf Coastlines.’ Just five days before Hurricane Katrina’s one year anniversary, CBS news anchor Hannah Storm featured climate alarmist Mike Tidwell on The Early Show to discuss his book, “The Ravaging Tide.” “I think the biggest lesson from Katrina a year later is that those same ingredients, you know, a city below sea level hit by a major hurricane, will be replicated by global warming all along our Atlantic and Gulf Coast lines,” Tidwell said on August 24, 2006....
source
I'm right, you're wrong. case closed.

Why would a news anchor be a good source for science information? We actually are experiencing more severe storms . And not just storms , wildfires severe drought,heatwaves , icecap melting , record snow and rainfall, these are happening in places worldwide not just in USA

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