Justin Trudeau trans rights

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I noticed the leader of Canada has a stance on the trans (human) agenda.

"All Canadians should be able to identify themselves and express their gender freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate." JUSTIN TRUDEAU Leader, Liberal Party of Canada"
No-one should be refused a job, disadvantaged in the workplace, be unable to access services or be the target of harassment and violence because of their gender identity or gender expression."
Pass the Bill: Trans rights are human rights This seems to come from the Liberal party.

Looking at the history of trans humanism, it quickly becomes apparent it is directly against Jesus and Scripture.

It becomes normal to leave the natural use of both woman and man, not only is areas of sexual practices, but altering the body via technology.

Here is an example.."“To reflect critical advances in science and medicine”, the World Health Organization, WHO, has removed so-called “gender identity disorder” from its official manual of diagnoses
transgender

So the world body has declared it normal, rather than a disorder.

So what is trans humanism? Here is a summary from a news article

"So what is it? The term “transhumanism” gained widespread currency in 1990, following its formal inauguration by Max More, the CEO of Alcor Life Extension Foundation. It refers to an optimistic belief in the enhancement of the human condition through technology in all its forms. Its advocates believe in fundamentally enhancing the human condition through applied reason and a corporeal embrace of new technologies."

What is transhumanism and how does it affect you?

To Trudeau I say this..

All Canadians should be able to identify themselves as bible believers and express their belief freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate and demonic agendas and laws.
 
Last edited:

“Paisios”

Sinner
Site Supporter
Aug 8, 2014
2,876
4,622
55
✟594,142.00
Country
United States
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Married
I noticed the leader of Canada has a stance on the trans human agenda.

"All Canadians should be able to identify themselves and express their gender freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate." JUSTIN TRUDEAU Leader, Liberal Party of Canada"
No-one should be refused a job, disadvantaged in the workplace, be unable to access services or be the target of harassment and violence because of their gender identity or gender expression."
Pass the Bill: Trans rights are human rights This seems to come from the Liberal party.

Looking at the history of trans humanism, it quickly becomes apparent it is directly against Jesus and Scripture.

It becomes normal to leave the natural use of both woman and man, not only is areas of sexual practices, but altering the body via technology.

Here is an example.."“To reflect critical advances in science and medicine”, the World Health Organization, WHO, has removed so-called “gender identity disorder” from its official manual of diagnoses
transgender

So the world body has declared it normal, rather than a disorder.

So what is trans humanism? Here is a summary from a news article

"So what is it? The term “transhumanism” gained widespread currency in 1990, following its formal inauguration by Max More, the CEO of Alcor Life Extension Foundation. It refers to an optimistic belief in the enhancement of the human condition through technology in all its forms. Its advocates believe in fundamentally enhancing the human condition through applied reason and a corporeal embrace of new technologies."

What is transhumanism and how does it affect you?

To Trudeau I say this..

All Canadians should be able to identify themselves as bible believers and express their belief freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate and demonic agendas and laws.
I have no comment on your post itself, but I believe transgenderism and transhumanism are two very separate things and should be dealt with as separate issues.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I have no comment on your post itself, but I believe transgenderism and transhumanism are two very separate things and should be dealt with as separate issues.
Since both involve going against nature and using technology to do so, maybe explain the difference?
 
Upvote 0

Caliban

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2018
2,575
1,142
California
✟46,917.00
Country
United States
Faith
Skeptic
Marital Status
Married
Yes, these are two very different issues. The position Trudeau is advocating involves individuals who identify with a gender other than the biological one they were born with. It has nothing to do with the scientific ambition of integrating the human body and mind with technology.
 
Upvote 0

“Paisios”

Sinner
Site Supporter
Aug 8, 2014
2,876
4,622
55
✟594,142.00
Country
United States
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Married
Since both involve going against nature and using technology to do so, maybe explain the difference?
I think R.Miller’s post makes the distinction. I am not saying there are not issues with both, just that they are two different entities. My apologies if I offended.
Yes, these are two very different issues. The position Trudeau is advocating involves individuals who identify with a gender other than the biological one they were born with. It has nothing to do with the scientific ambition of integrating the human body and mind with technology.
 
Upvote 0

Caliban

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2018
2,575
1,142
California
✟46,917.00
Country
United States
Faith
Skeptic
Marital Status
Married
I think R.Miller’s post makes the distinction. I am not saying there are not issues with both, just that they are two different entities. My apologies if I offended.
No offense taken at all. I'm actually interested in both topics. I had a transgender student in my class this year. I tended to be careful of my language and learned a lot. He was my best student and I really enjoyed him in my class. Very interesting.
 
Upvote 0

Maria Billingsley

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Oct 7, 2018
9,656
7,872
63
Martinez
✟905,571.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I noticed the leader of Canada has a stance on the trans human agenda.

"All Canadians should be able to identify themselves and express their gender freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate." JUSTIN TRUDEAU Leader, Liberal Party of Canada"
No-one should be refused a job, disadvantaged in the workplace, be unable to access services or be the target of harassment and violence because of their gender identity or gender expression."
Pass the Bill: Trans rights are human rights This seems to come from the Liberal party.

Looking at the history of trans humanism, it quickly becomes apparent it is directly against Jesus and Scripture.

It becomes normal to leave the natural use of both woman and man, not only is areas of sexual practices, but altering the body via technology.

Here is an example.."“To reflect critical advances in science and medicine”, the World Health Organization, WHO, has removed so-called “gender identity disorder” from its official manual of diagnoses
transgender

So the world body has declared it normal, rather than a disorder.

So what is trans humanism? Here is a summary from a news article

"So what is it? The term “transhumanism” gained widespread currency in 1990, following its formal inauguration by Max More, the CEO of Alcor Life Extension Foundation. It refers to an optimistic belief in the enhancement of the human condition through technology in all its forms. Its advocates believe in fundamentally enhancing the human condition through applied reason and a corporeal embrace of new technologies."

What is transhumanism and how does it affect you?

To Trudeau I say this..

All Canadians should be able to identify themselves as bible believers and express their belief freely, while being protected against discrimination and hate and demonic agendas and laws.
First fruit in Christianity is love. Let God deal with sinners, meanwhile we love them as He loves you.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Yes, these are two very different issues. The position Trudeau is advocating involves individuals who identify with a gender other than the biological one they were born with. It has nothing to do with the scientific ambition of integrating the human body and mind with technology.
False. Advocating the violation of nature via technology is common in both heads of the same snake here.

Also common is the direct violation of nature and creation and Scripture. It is not the same to have an operation becoming part robot and part man, as it is having one to turn a male child into a 'female', that is true. However they are both offenses to God and the bible and believers.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
First fruit in Christianity is love. Let God deal with sinners, meanwhile we love them as He loves you.
So love, you thought, meant torturing children mentally and physically. and invoking demonic ritualistic violations of nature and Scripture?? That is not love is is giving over to Satan.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
the world becomes more evil, the persecution of the church begins, maybe this site could be targeted if i write trans must repent
Targeting is not unique to any particular point of view. I think it is time to target evil with light.
 
Upvote 0

Caliban

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2018
2,575
1,142
California
✟46,917.00
Country
United States
Faith
Skeptic
Marital Status
Married
False. Advocating the violation of nature via technology is common in both heads of the same snake here.

Also common is the direct violation of nature and creation and Scripture. It is not the same to have an operation becoming part robot and part man, as it is having one to turn a male child into a 'female', that is true. However they are both offenses to God and the bible and believers.
I can see how the Bible would condemn transexuals but, how do you get a prohibition of trans humanism from a text that could never have anticipated it?
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I think R.Miller’s post makes the distinction. I am not saying there are not issues with both, just that they are two different entities. My apologies if I offended.
Identifying with a gender or orientation really says nothing. Some people may think they are fish or gerbils or dogs etc. The issue is physical alteration via technology of actual nature.
 
Upvote 0

Caliban

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2018
2,575
1,142
California
✟46,917.00
Country
United States
Faith
Skeptic
Marital Status
Married
Identifying with a gender or orientation really says nothing. Some people may think they are fish or gerbils or dogs etc. The issue is physical alteration via technology of actual nature.
That's not an issue. How is that different from prosthetics or a bridge on your tooth?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I can see how the Bible would condemn transexuals but, how do you get a prohibition of trans humanism from a text that could never have anticipated it?
The bible anticipated and prophesied it all. Folks who take the technology of the AntiChrist could be thought of as trans human! They have something imbedded in them. At that very point they have lost the opportunity to repent and be saved.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
That's not an issue. How is that different from prosthetics or a bridge on your tooth?
One does not get dental work to change the sexual nature one was born with, or to evolve from being human into something 'higher'. In other words, changing from being human in the way God created us.
 
Upvote 0

Caliban

Well-Known Member
Jul 18, 2018
2,575
1,142
California
✟46,917.00
Country
United States
Faith
Skeptic
Marital Status
Married
The bible anticipated and prophesied it all. Folks who take the technology of the AntiChrist could be thought of as trans human! They have something imbedded in them. At that very point they have lost the opportunity to repent and be saved.
What? You can't just make tis stuff up as you go along. What prophesy? People have surgeries and have stuff "imbedded in them."
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
No offense taken at all. I'm actually interested in both topics. I had a transgender student in my class this year. I tended to be careful of my language and learned a lot. He was my best student and I really enjoyed him in my class. Very interesting.
Him?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,904
1,261
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
What? You can't just make tis stuff up as you go along. What prophesy? People have surgeries and have stuff "imbedded in them."
Not stuff that affects their nature. Nowhere does the bible say that if we use crutches we ca't be saved!
 
Upvote 0