Does creationism have any social value?

OldWiseGuy · Jun 13, 2019

variant said:
I was making a conditional statement that is only meant to be taken as true when the conditions following the word if are met.

So as applied to me the "if" is if I'm telling the truth.

VirOptimus · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
Where's the "beef"?

Que?

variant · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
Race isn't important to me, but behavior is. Some ethnic groups are strongly identified with certain behaviors and cultural habits. Eskimos eating blubber for example (I don't know how they do that without cutting their lips off).

The historically disastrous associations people make are conflating race and ethnicity with negative characteristics in order to demean groups that aren't like themselves, then usually using that as justification for poor treatment of that "other" group.

variant · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
So as applied to me the "if" is if I'm telling the truth.

The IF means that when the conditions were satisfied the conditional would be true.

I can't tell if you are telling the truth outside of further observation.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

variant said:
The historically disastrous associations people make are conflating race and ethnicity with negative characteristics in order to demean groups that aren't like themselves, then usually using that as justification for poor treatment of that "other" group.

That be racism alright. However in America today addressing those negative characteristics, even in an effort to change them for the benefit of that group, is viewed as racism.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

VirOptimus said:
Que?

The evidence, where's the evidence?

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

essentialsaltes said:
I'll believe you when you provide some evidence.

Interesting that most book removal and banning is initiated by parents desiring to protect their children from content they deem inappropriate.

How do libraries get away with banning books?

Group asks school district to remove 14 books from libraries

Barcelona school removes 200 sexist children's books

Libraries and Intellectual Freedom

essentialsaltes · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
Interesting that most book removal and banning is initiated by parents desiring to protect their children from content they deem inappropriate.

Yes, it is interesting, because your initial claim that you are now trying to support was "many books that liberal educators don't like been removed from libraries".

I grant you, many liberal educators are probably parents. But I think your claim is still unproven, indeed contradicted by your evidence, except for the story from Spain.

"She has been asked by the local It’s Your Tea Party Florida, a Marion County-based conservative political group, to remove 14 books from school libraries."

"Those challenging it, however, find it anything but heartwarming. Instead, it is “anti-family” and “promotes the homosexual agenda.”"

"The most frequent challenges are from parents"

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

essentialsaltes said:
Yes, it is interesting, because your initial claim that you are now trying to support was "many books that liberal educators don't like been removed from libraries".

I grant you, many liberal educators are probably parents. But I think your claim is still unproven, indeed contradicted by your evidence, except for the story from Spain.

"She has been asked by the local It’s Your Tea Party Florida, a Marion County-based conservative political group, to remove 14 books from school libraries."

"Those challenging it, however, find it anything but heartwarming. Instead, it is “anti-family” and “promotes the homosexual agenda.”"

"The most frequent challenges are from parents"

I'm guessing that 'politically incorrect' books are removed and 'placed in storage' by liberal administrators and librarians. Anyway I believe I made my point.

VirOptimus · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
The evidence, where's the evidence?

We can read your posts you know.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

VirOptimus said:
We can read your posts you know.

And you can read into them falsehoods as well.

VirOptimus · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
And you can read into them falsehoods as well.

I could, but I dont.

essentialsaltes · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
I'm guessing that 'politically incorrect' books are removed and 'placed in storage' by liberal administrators and librarians. Anyway I believe I made my point.

I believe you made a guess.

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

essentialsaltes said:
I believe you made a guess.

An educated guess.

Tinker Grey · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
An educated guess.

You letting your gut be your teacher again?

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

Tinker Grey said:
You letting your gut be your teacher again?

When I say "I'm guessing" it's the same as offering a "theory" in scientific terms.

essentialsaltes · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
When I say "I'm guessing" it's the same as offering a "theory" in scientific terms.

Your guess is supported by abundant empirical evidence and has withstood expert scrutiny?

My working hypothesis is that this isn't true.

Tinker Grey · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
When I say "I'm guessing" it's the same as offering a "theory" in scientific terms.

No, it's not.

VirOptimus · Jun 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
When I say "I'm guessing" it's the same as offering a "theory" in scientific terms.

Why the trolling again?

OldWiseGuy · Jun 14, 2019

VirOptimus said:
Why the trolling again?

I looked up synonyms for colloquialism and trolling wasn't one of them.

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