Our Biggest Mistake on Faith

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True.

But after we are saved, our hearts are changed. We at least begin to desire to love God and our neighbors.

It is also written in the Bible if one does truly love God or their brothers and sisters.

Then I say they where never saved, the spirit never entered into them, because, they would love.

But, also, a crime does not prove there was no love.

I know many people who commit crime out of passion and rage, the love was there, but there emotions over take them.

The whole premises is this

No one is perfect, no one, so, to say anyone looses there salvation is not right because then if you sin, then you also are held to your own judgments.

This is where forgiveness comes into play.
 
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I know many people who commit crime out of passion and rage, the love was there, but there emotions over take them..

That's insecurity, possessiveness, narcissism, not love. It may look like love from the outside but it's not.

Love through actions and in truth - 1 John 3:18.

There is no truth if someone thinks they can own someone. That's not love, that's abuse, exploitation.
 
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I THINK we read the word and in a case wrong. We read it. then look at us or that other person and try to apply it right now! I don't hear it like that. This is one of those things we move into..are pressing in for.. what we long to be like. LOL I didnt get saved and then BAM I am doing EVERYTHING that moment Like the word says. Always growing. LOVE IS...Faith IS. The sweet sweet Holy Spirit will never make us do anything we dont want to do.

If this was a test and GOD puts what He said in His word side by side with our life. All would fail in some area. For me.. when I think about this.. its like its going up...as if a race.. thats flipped. Well where I thought I would get tired and want to quit.. the more I surrender.. give up.. on something I thought was what I LOVED more.. I am so surprised that.. it gets better and better..looking back.. wondering.. HOW did I miss this. THIS Is so much better then what I was doing.

Just saying.. like Paul or the Holy Spirit shows us this painting of where we are going..what we will be. But we tend to only want to see now.. and the past. Like.. love not the world nor the things in the world if you do then love for the Father is not in you.<---this is where your going.. this is what you will have.. a love for the Father and not the world. We tend to read what God says and then apply it to NOW and .. hello.. we do not measure up. I was waking up.. thinking about something I was not doing.. for Him..

And He came right back with His word.. "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ". I was looking at NOW..what I am not doing.. and yet.. He was not. Letting me know.. with a smile.. saying something like.. hold on you've seen nothing yet.. I am not even finished..
 
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That's insecurity, possessiveness, narcissism, not love.

No sir, you can judge it as so, because this is how it may look.

But, you can be insecure but still love, you can be possessive and still love, and you can have narcissism and still love.

Like my past marriage.

At the end, we fought,we argued, we even threatened each other, but, I loved her then, I always loved her, and I still love her.

I did things I did not want to do in my past i regret out of a possessed feeling, but when that left me, I was normal again.

But I still truly loved.

We are humans, not programmed robots.
 
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you can be possessive and still love, and you can have narcissism and still love.

We are humans, not programmed robots.
Narcissists are void of empathy - so they can't genuinely love. Also - there is no love without freedom, so I am not sure what you mean by "possessive", but that can't include controlling another person's will.

I think this article does a great job of breaking down what "love" entails (this is written in the context of marriage - but it can be expanded to many relationships in general):

Quoting from Covenant Keepers------>
The attributes of love

1. Giving love. One of the most important characteristics of true love is that it gives. Jesus explained to Nicodemus that “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). God loved us so much that He gave us His most precious gift, His Son. God continues to love us by pouring His blessings upon us day after day. Giving is the foundation of true love. Consider, are you the giver in your relationship or are you the one expecting to receive?

2. Sacrificial love. Love by definition must be sacrificial to be true love. In the Old Testament when God asked for an unblemished animal to be offered to Him on the altar, it was to be the best sheep or goat (Num. 18:29-30). The people were not allowed to give an animal that was sick or diseased (Lev. 22:20-24; Mal. 1:8). To give their best animal would have been a true financial sacrifice for them. This is exactly how God gave His love to you.

3. Serving love. True sacrificial giving will also inspire loving service to your spouse. Paul encouraged all believers that we should by “love serve one another” (Gal. 5:13). Therefore, if you love your spouse, how are you serving him or her in practical ways?

4. Love freely given. One of the most misunderstood aspects of marital love is the fact that true love is totally voluntary, unforced, and free of manipulation or control. God declared that this was the way He loved His people when He promised, “I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely” (Hos. 14:4). The word freely in this verse means voluntarily. In other words, God is explaining that His love can’t be forced or manipulated by others and that He has chosen to love His people for His own reasons. Jesus said the same thing about the love that motivated Him to go to the cross. “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself” (John 10:17-18). Jesus was declaring that no one was controlling His decisions. He was voluntarily giving up His life because He loved us.

5. Submissive love. It is important to note that before Paul commanded a wife to submit to her husband or a husband to love his wife, he commands both to submit to each other. All should be “submitting to one another in the fear of God” (Eph. 5:21). Why? Because mutual submission is a necessity for all relationships including marriage. Likewise, Peter commanded, “All of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for ‘God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble’ ” (1 Peter 5:5).

6. Supporting love. Why is it that many marriages seem to degenerate into a competition between two people who should be supporting each other? It is simply because one or both partners do not sense that the other truly loves them. They don’t perceive that their spouse has their best interests at heart. This is not the Scripture’s definition of a loving relationship. The apostle Paul instructs: “I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive’” (Acts 20:35).

7. Kind Love. Quite often when couples come into my office for marriage counseling they will sit in front of me and begin to speak to each other in the most rude, harsh, and critical manner. I will immediately stop them and ask if they truly want to reconcile and renew their love for each other. They almost always declare, “Oh yes, we desperately want to reconcile.” I then explain that their unkindness to each other is completely contradictory to this stated desire.

8. Understanding love. Another complaint I regularly hear from couples is the lack of understanding in their marriage.

9. Laboring love. To demonstrate true love you need to take practical actions that constantly reveal your love.

10. Gentle love. When you consider the topic of love do you connect love with gentleness? Many do not understand this attribute of love. However, Paul associated these two qualities together many times. He asked the Corinthians if they wanted him to come to them with “a rod, or in love and a spirit of gentleness” (1 Cor. 4:21). Paul also encouraged the Ephesian church to walk in “all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love” (Eph. 4:2). In other words, love is seen in a humble, gentle, and longsuffering attitude. ~ What It Means To Love Your Spouse
 
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Narcissists are void of empathy

You are correct, but not in the moment of sin, some times i have noticed,when a person commits a crime or sin in the act emotions drove them to the act.
 
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