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Are you trying to say that the two tablets do not both contain the Ten Commandments? And one was done away, and the other stands? I'm not sure what you are getting at, obviously.
There were two sets of stone tablets, if you read my post. Moses destroyed the first set in his anger.
 
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[ Adam (אדם) literally means "red", and there is an etymological connection between adam and adamah, adamah designating "red clay" or "red ground" in a non-theological context.[7] In traditional Jewish theology, a strong etymological connection between the two words is often assumed. Maimonides believed the word adam to be derived from the word adamah, analogous to the way in which mankind was created from the ground.[8] In contemporary biblical scholarship there is a general consensus that the words have an etymological relationship, but the exact nature of it is disputed. The word adam has no feminine form in Hebrew, but if it did, it would be adamah.[6] However, it is considered unlikely that the word adamah is a feminization of "adam", and the prevailing hypothesis is that both words originate from the verbal stem "adam" (to be red) and were chosen by the author of Genesis to convey the relationship between man and the adamah.[7][9]

There is additional relationship between the words adam and adamah and the word dam (דם), meaning blood.[10] This justifies the presence in the Kashrut of the prohibition of the consumption of blood: the blood of a slaughtered animal must be returned to the ground, and covered with earth. ]

The hebrew is bolded for emphasis;

Romans 9:21 Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special occasions and another for common use?





וְק֥וֹץ וְדַרְדַּ֖ר תַּצְמִ֣יחַֽ לָ֑ךְ וְאָכַלְתָּ֖ אֶת־עֵ֥שֶׂב הַשָּׂדֶֽה׃

Thorns and thistles shall it sprout for you. But your food shall be the grasses of the field;


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בְּזֵעַ֤ת אַפֶּ֙יךָ֙ תֹּ֣אכַל לֶ֔חֶם עַ֤ד שֽׁוּבְךָ֙ אֶל־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה כִּ֥י מִמֶּ֖נָּה לֻקָּ֑חְתָּ כִּֽי־עָפָ֣ר אַ֔תָּה וְאֶל־עָפָ֖ר תָּשֽׁוּב׃

By the sweat of your brow Shall you get bread to eat, Until you return to the ground— For from it you were taken. For dust you are, And to dust you shall return.”




thorns and thistles
You will recognize them by their fruit. Can people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every healthy tree produces good fruit, but a poor tree produces bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, or a poor tree good fruit. 19 Any tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire! 20 So you will recognize them by their fruit.

I already know all of that. I was asking why you called "adamah" a Jew...
 
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I already know all of that. I was asking why you called "adamah" a Jew...
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Which is also why I will not speak ill of my inheritance as some have been taught to do.
 
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You do realize Judaism is a religion that rejects Jesus Christ as the Messiah, right.


Judaism is a man made religion consisting of the law of Moses and the traditions (teachings) of man.
No,
This statement is false.
 
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Paul said “I lived (past tense)

Acts 26:5. Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.”
We know Paul lived as a Pharisee or among Pharisees. Pharisees believed in the resurrection of the dead.
 
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Which is also why I will not speak ill of my inheritance as some have been taught to do.

I am not catching your drift. We are all related to Adam. What inheritance will you not speak ill of? Still don't understand why you said "adamah" (ground) is a Jew.
 
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I am not catching your drift. We are all related to Adam. What inheritance will you not speak ill of? Still don't understand why you said "adamah" (ground) is a Jew.
While some trample a Holy inheritance of promised hope Fullfilled.
I refuse to.

[ How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? ]
 
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If you are Jewish - yes. Those things are NOT considered food in the bible.


Is they separate classes of Christians?

Jew and Gentile Christians?


There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:28-29



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PS. The law of Moses is what divided Jew from Gentile.
 
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Is they separate classes of Christians?
Jew and Gentile Christians?
Were there separate classes of Jews?
Were not the Levites set apart for specific functions that no one else could do and that entailed different restrictions?

It is the same with New Covenant believing Jews.
 
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PS. The law of Moses is what divided Jew from Gentile.
No,
The separation is and has always been caused by the prince of power of air(leaven).
An external entity that wages war and sin against The Most High.

The Torah being Holy and handed down to mosheh is instruction freely given to bring the sheepfold to Yeshua.
"Train up a child in the way......"
"The school master brings a person to....."

While the heirs of quayin, korach, and likewise sons of the house of disobedience are destroyed.
The righteous in the Torah of the spirit shine with unhindered brightness..

Blessings Always
 
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Were there separate classes of Jews?
Were not the Levites set apart for specific functions that no one else could do and that entailed different restrictions?

It is the same with New Covenant believing Jews.


I have good news for you brother.

The Levitical Priesthood is no more.


Our High Priest is after the order of Melchizedek.



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No,
The separation is and has always been caused by the prince of power of air(leaven).
An external entity that wages war and sin against The Most High.


Nope.


The law of Moses commanded the children of Israel to be separate from Gentiles.


For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.
Ephesians 2:14-16


  • having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two


The law of Moses has been abolished in His flesh.




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Were there separate classes of Jews?
Were not the Levites set apart for specific functions that no one else could do and that entailed different restrictions?

It is the same with New Covenant believing Jews.
I thought The tribe of levites service was to minister and foreshadow the coming of The promised King of yhdh.
As a voice till yochanon(john the levite)baptist. To serve as a voice in the wilderness with water to cleanse and nourish weary travelers seeking in both thirst and hunger.

And with such hospitality I imagine eliyahu had done the same for the orphan and widow of the tribe of yhdh.

A generous conversation in oil reminds me of charity given with a healthy diet of hot coals before entering the Holy of holies.

Blessings
 
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I have good news for you brother.
The Levitical Priesthood is no more.
Romans 11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

IOW, it is PERMANENT.

BTW - this prophecy is for the New Covenant era: (speaking of gentiles)

Isaiah 66:21
I will also take some of them for priests and for Levites,” says the Lord.
 
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Were there separate classes of Jews?
Were not the Levites set apart for specific functions that no one else could do and that entailed different restrictions?

It is the same with New Covenant believing Jews.
I thought The tribe of levites service was to minister and foreshadow the coming of The promised King of yhdh.
As a voice till yochanon(john the levite)baptist. To serve as a voice in the wilderness with water to cleanse and nourish weary travelers seeking in both thirst and hunger.

And with such hospitality I imagine eliyahu had done the same for the orphan and widow of the tribe of yhdh.

A generous conversation in oil reminds me of charity given with a healthy diet of hot coals before entering the Holy of holies.

Blessings
 
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Romans 11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

IOW, it is PERMANENT.

BTW - this prophecy is for the New Covenant era: (speaking of gentiles)

Isaiah 66:21
I will also take some of them for priests and for Levites,” says the Lord.


No more Levitical Priesthood.


Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him. Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 7:9-12



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No more Levitical Priesthood.


Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak, for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him. Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
Hebrews 7:9-12



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New garments..

Was any of the tribe of Levi, serving as priest, ever covered in garments of flesh?

Or were they instead offered spiritual armor to give to widows and orphans?

Remember that there are twelve tribes with 4 being arranged to be corners of a field like a breast plate of.....

Consider the possibility that they served the sheep gate to bring in and welcome the orphaned sheep till The Ram came.

If only for a generation the tribe of yhdh looked east instead west. The poor will remain and be given provisions in order.

I once had a conversation with a youngin about building the mishkan(tabernacle with a community..
In her innocence she thought and answered," that will cost too much."

I preceeded to give her a lesson in the value of fellowship.
She had assumed monetary offerings are a tithe..

I teased her a bit about my lack of compassion for economic nonsense and told her.," well then, perhaps we should charge strangers a fee and offer a prize to anyone who builds the mishkan correctly"
 
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