Is God responsible for all the physical disabilities people are born with?

The only perfect beings were Adam and Eve before the fall. Afterwards, the fall has brought all of its evils upon earth.

We can say that God created the world perfect, then it was corrupted through the bond that human made with Satan by sinning.

The results of corruption affect people randomly. That is, a morally good mom and a morally good dad can end up with a disabled child. The randomness and unfairness in themselves are another hit on earth from Satan.

The answer to your thread is that, Satan tries to hide himself and put God as the source of "everything" including good and evil. Which is not true; God is good and is only the source of good.

We have a down syndrome daughter and have learned to love and respect the difference between those who are born with down syndrome and those who are born 'normal'.

i have learned to believe that in Christ all things serve for good, also disabilities. Disabilities teach people things they would have otherwise had no idea about. People with disabilities broaden the experience of what it means to be human and have brought characteristics alive that could never have existed if sin had not entered the world.

i love God for making all things good and look forward seeing our daughter receive her eternal reward. When God makes things right for her and us all.

Matthew 18:3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

redleghunter said:

Exodus 4: NASB
10Then Moses said to the LORD, “Please, Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently nor in time past, nor since You have spoken to Your servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue.” 11The LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD? 12“Now then go, and I, even I, will be with your mouth, and teach you what you are to say.” 13But he said, “Please, Lord, now send the message by whomever You will.”​

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If you connect this verse with the next verse, the part "and teach you what you are to say" shows that verse 11 is rather spiritual than literal in my opinion.

I.e: God can blind humans from taking particular decisions or talking to particular people. God can mute humans at times.. etc

I would love to hear your opinion.

Yennora said:

If you connect this verse with the next verse, the part "and teach you what you are to say" shows that verse 11 is rather spiritual than literal in my opinion.

I.e: God can blind humans from taking particular decisions or talking to particular people. God can mute humans at times.. etc

I would love to hear your opinion.

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Moses admits he is slow of speech.

redleghunter said:

Moses admits he is slow of speech.

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I don't like the old testament anyway so I'm out of this. I believe the O.T was suitable perhaps to its times. But I see that in the new covenant the whole God-Human relationship changed radically.

(I'm not ashamed to say that I don't like the O.T, I think that it is normal for us to feel this way and this is a natural result of the radical change in the God-Human relationship.)

Yennora said:

I don't like the old testament anyway so I'm out of this. I believe the O.T was suitable perhaps to its times. But I see that in the new covenant the whole God-Human relationship changed radically.

(I'm not ashamed to say that I don't like the O.T, I think that it is normal for us to feel this way and this is a natural result of the radical change in the God-Human relationship.)

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So...Non-Denominational is now a fancy way of saying Marcionite? I don't get it.

Heresy is a worse deformity than anything a person may be born with.

Part of our problem with all this is that we think of God as God Almighty....when in fact He is God All-carrying. God Almighty is a poor translation. It speaks of an arrogant being, high above, looking down on the weaklings below. Telling them that they better try harder to be good or else...God Almighty will deal with them! Whereas "God All Carrying" is underneath our burdens, carrying us and them all the way through our lives, unseen, unknown....as we keep blaming Him. He is the disabled child! He carries us...becomes one with us in all our troubles, he carried Israel on his shoulders, he carried Jesus to Golgotha, He is carrying you and me. We do not see it or feel it most of the time...so we learn to acknowledge Him carrying us even when there is NO EVIDENCE of it....and we give thanks in and FOR all things.

Yennora said:

I don't like the old testament anyway so I'm out of this. I believe the O.T was suitable perhaps to its times. But I see that in the new covenant the whole God-Human relationship changed radically.

(I'm not ashamed to say that I don't like the O.T, I think that it is normal for us to feel this way and this is a natural result of the radical change in the God-Human relationship.)

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Those who are deceived by the positive thinking and positive confession heresies don't like the Old Testament either. Too negative for them.

Willing-heart said:

So I heard some say that God is responsible for all the physical disabilities people are born with. I don't quite agree with that statement simply because of Sin. When sin entered the world through Adam and Eve, the perfect became imperfect as a result. But yes, God allows some to be born with disabilities because He is able to use it all for His glory. I'd appreciate some biblical insight on this subject.

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You're doing great on your own. Right on track.

Willing-heart said:

So I heard some say that God is responsible for all the physical disabilities people are born with. I don't quite agree with that statement simply because of Sin. When sin entered the world through Adam and Eve, the perfect became imperfect as a result. But yes, God allows some to be born with disabilities because He is able to use it all for His glory. I'd appreciate some biblical insight on this subject.

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Some imagine that God is a cosmic puppeteer, and everything that happens is basically because God is manipulating the strings. That's just not how God is presented to us in Scripture and what we believe about God and His relationship with the universe in Christianity.

This is perhaps largely because of the philosophical difficulty of trying to figure out how God can be omnipotent and sovereign and there still be certain things that happen. Is it God's sovereign will that Bob got cancer? How about that a child was riding their bike and was struck by a car and died, was that God's sovereign will? The Christian answer is that no, of course it's not. But then will say, how then can God be omnipotent and sovereign? At the end of the day these philosophical conundrums are basically unanswered, at least they are unanswered as far as the philosopher is concerned. The Christian response isn't philosophical, but is instead the answer of faith: Jesus Christ crucified. We aren't supposed to be theologians of glory trying to divine the inscrutable, unknowable, and invisible mysteries of God's power; we are supposed to be theologians of the cross knowing and confessing God in the suffering, humiliation, and death of Jesus Christ. We do not know God in His invisible glory and power, but in His shame and suffering; we know God in and by the cross.

The cross which is foolishness to the world, but for us the power of God to our salvation.

-CryptoLutheran

Willing-heart said:

I agree with much of what you've said, but I disagree that corruption affects people randomly. We may never know why God allows some to suffer while others don't or while life may seems unfair to some and not others, but nothing is random with God, and we may never understand why on this side of heaven.

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I held that belief for a while, that God still allows who can be affected by corruption in what way. But I have plenty of evidence that corruption can be far more disturbing than we all think. I got my beliefs changed radically when I saw the lack of link and compensation to those who get hit by corruption. Especially children. I have some very dark incidences that happened in my own country, I won't share them here though lest they weaken someone's faith. If you are interested, we can start a private discussion.

dzheremi said:

So...Non-Denominational is now a fancy way of saying Marcionite? I don't get it.

Heresy is a worse deformity than anything a person may be born with.

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I believe that non-denominational's share no common link when it comes to their approach to theology. As a non-denominational I still pray in a Coptic orthodox church here in Australia and sometimes -(REDACTED: I DON'T RECOMMEND CATHOLIC CHURCHES ANYMORE)- churches (Because they are what around, I'm ready to also pray in Methodist churches, Protestant...etc). You can see another non-denominational doing the Holy Mass in their house with no need for a priest. For me, theological knowledge comes out of my experience with God and my experience with humans. I don't like to follow instructions, priests, or groups of people blindly.

It is like putting all agnostics in one boat. You cannot. Each agnostic is different from the other.

Yennora said:

I don't like the old testament anyway so I'm out of this. I believe the O.T was suitable perhaps to its times. But I see that in the new covenant the whole God-Human relationship changed radically.

(I'm not ashamed to say that I don't like the O.T, I think that it is normal for us to feel this way and this is a natural result of the radical change in the God-Human relationship.)

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Why don’t you like the Law & Prophets(commonly called the OT)? The Messiah and Apostles taught from the Law & Prophets - they didn’t teach from the “New Testament”.

As a matter of fact, there would be no New Covenant without the Law & Prophets.

Willing-heart said:

So I heard some say that God is responsible for all the physical disabilities people are born with. I don't quite agree with that statement simply because of Sin. When sin entered the world through Adam and Eve, the perfect became imperfect as a result. But yes, God allows some to be born with disabilities because He is able to use it all for His glory. I'd appreciate some biblical insight on this subject.

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I am real surprised no one has brought up Christ’s answer to the question: John 9:1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

First off, notice what Jesus did not say was the cause: sin, Adam & Eve, satan, evil in the world, bad luck or other people.

The disciples did not say: “Why are people (anyone) born in hardship”, but their question would apply to any and all people born hurting.

Let me ask you: Could every person born hurting be an opportunity for Christians to allow the Spirit within to show, extend, share, explain, and be Loving and thus glorify God?

Is the problem that of hurting people or the lack of Christians ceasing these opportunities?

Are we all not born into some “hardship”, which might make it hard for us to accept the pure sacrificial charity of God? What I have seen is: people, who are hurting and who have humble themselves already to the point of willingly accepting pure charity, seem to find it easier to accept God’s charity, but what do you think?

Do you see the people who have it all, easily accepting the sacrificial charity of God?

Lazarus in the story of “The Rich man and Lazarus” was not healed, because?

Lazarus was there providing daily the very best opportunity for the rich man to experience Love (God being Love). Lazarus did his job here on earth and it would have been wonderful if the rich man had befriended him so the rich man could be with Lazarus in heaven. The hard ship Lazarus endured to help the rich man will be made up in Abraham’s bosom. The rich man might have had a hospital named after him, but that was not what he needed.

redleghunter said:

Exodus 4: NASB
10Then Moses said to the LORD, “Please, Lord, I have never been eloquent, neither recently nor in time past, nor since You have spoken to Your servant; for I am slow of speech and slow of tongue.” 11The LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD? 12“Now then go, and I, even I, will be with your mouth, and teach you what you are to say.” 13But he said, “Please, Lord, now send the message by whomever You will.”​

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The context of this passage is important to consider. Moses was trying to be excused from God’s assignment to him to request that Pharaoh release the Israelites from slavery. Moses reply was:

“… O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.” (Exodus 4:10)

11And the LORD said to him, “Who gave man his mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, sighted or blind? Is it not I, the LORD? 12Now go! I will help you as you speak, and I will teach you what to say.”

God is rebuking Moses for his lack of faith. We can excuse a bit of hyperbole when God admonishes Moses here. “Who gave you a mouth?” Is this a theological statement that for each individual person God chose on a case-by-case whether to give us physical mouths or not? Obviously not.

It is a rhetorical question. God is not addressing the causes of blindness here, but the cause of Moses’ unwillingness to obey God. For this reason, I conclude that this is a very poor proof-text for demonstrating that God arbitrarily chooses to make some people deaf simply because he chose to do so. This is a huge stretch of this passage, in my opinion.

Everything not good in this world is the result/consequences of sin entering the world.
EVERYTHING not good.

Everyone blames God for everything bad in this world ... NO ... blame the real culprit ... satan.

God is good!!

The Lord is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble; and He knows those who trust in Him. Nahum 1:7

Willing-heart said:

So I heard some say that God is responsible for all the physical disabilities people are born with. I don't quite agree with that statement simply because of Sin. When sin entered the world through Adam and Eve, the perfect became imperfect as a result. But yes, God allows some to be born with disabilities because He is able to use it all for His glory. I'd appreciate some biblical insight on this subject.

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I know this:


Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
James 1:17

But sometimes it may be difficult to see what is really good. Sometimes it can only been seen after some time.