Japheth is white. Genesis 9:27

Albion · Jun 11, 2019

Hams sons are not from Ham?

RDKirk · Jun 11, 2019

Albion said:
Hams sons are not from Ham?

Scripture does not lump the descendants of Ham as "Ham" but makes the explicit distinction of his sons because each has a distinct future through the scripture.

Albion · Jun 11, 2019

OK. That's worth saying. I was simply pointing out that the conventional, traditional explanation is that the races are descended in the way I arranged them, from the three sons. Another poster had put them in a different order.

Alpha-and-Omega · Jun 11, 2019

Der Alter said:
<ΑΩ>No, I am absolutely serious about this.
To “enlarge Japheth” means to extend his territory and influence at the expense of others who are not descendants of Japheth.
Because we know that all power and resources are zero sum: social, cultural, economic, political and military. Genesis 9:27 and Isaiah 24:1, 3, 12.
Consequently, the redistribution of power is always to the advantage of one group at the expense of all others.
But you know exactly what I mean of course.<ΑΩ>
Wrong.

[פָּתָה S6601 TWOT1853 GK7331, 7332] vb. be spacious, wide, open (Aramaic פְּתָא be spacious, ܦܬܳܐ (pto) be spacious, abundant; cf. Arabic فَتُوَ, فَتِىَ (fatuwa, fatiya), be youthful, in prime of life, فَتًى (fatan) young man, one in prime of life (development of various meanings from √ not wholly clear, cf. Nö xi (1886). 735));—Qal Pt. פֹּתֶה Pr 20:19 poss. one open as to lips, but v. פָּתָה denom. infr. Hiph. Impf. 3 ms. juss. יַפְתְּ א׳ לְיֶפֶת Gn 9:27 may God make wide for Japhet (give him an extensive inheritance).—Pf. poss. Pr 24:28 (reading וְהִפְתִּיתָ בִּשְׂפָתֶ֑יךָ; make wide with (open wide) thy lips, for MT וַהֲפִתִּיתָ בִּשׂ׳, so SS; but cf. פָּתָה denom. Pi.)
Brown, F., Driver, S. R., & Briggs, C. A. (1977). Enhanced Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon (p. 834). Oxford: Clarendon Press.

Nothing you have said can serve to invalidate this argument.

Unless of course, you are trying to contest the “zero sum” doctrine in geopolitics.

Alpha-and-Omega · Jun 11, 2019

Blade said:
Hmm...so if you were to die today.. then go to the Father.. what COLOR do you think you will be? Your spirit is? I can lol just see the Father.. hand slap right to the forehead.. really? This is where they get stuck

The fact that there is no colour difference in heaven doesn’t change the fact that God created the different colours on the earth (Acts 17:26), and such a difference is meaningful.

RDKirk · Jun 11, 2019

Alpha-and-Omega said:
The fact that there is no colour difference in heaven doesn’t change the fact that God created the different colours on the earth (Acts 17:26), and such a difference is meaningful.

However:
From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.

Note the bolded.

But now, these verses:

Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...

But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

What God split asunder in the Old Testament, He joins in the New Testament to be a kingdom of His special possession drawn out of all earthly nations.

Der Alte · Jun 11, 2019

Alpha-and-Omega said:
Nothing you have said can serve to invalidate this argument.
Unless of course, you are trying to contest the “zero sum” doctrine in geopolitics.

You have no argument to refute, just your unsupported opinion probably provided to you by a "teacher" in the religious group you associate with. I quoted the definition of Japeth from the world renowned Bauer, Danker, Arndt, Gingrich Hebrew lexicon
If you think "zero sum" is relevant here provide you evidence.

Jipsah · Jun 11, 2019

Tone said:
I thought white skin didn't exist until it snowed...

Not white, blue.

Jipsah · Jun 11, 2019

Alpha-and-Omega said:
But do you contest the idea that Japheth is the Great great great ancestor of Europeans?

What is the basis for that belief?

Jipsah · Jun 11, 2019

Albion said:
Hams sons are not from Ham?

Scandalous

Jipsah · Jun 11, 2019

Alpha-and-Omega said:
Nothing you have said can serve to invalidate this argument.

Who has validated it? Or do you simply consider it axiomatic?

Jipsah · Jun 11, 2019

Alpha-and-Omega said:
The fact that there is no colour difference in heaven doesn’t change the fact that God created the different colours on the earth (Acts 17:26), and such a difference is meaningful.

And the meaning is?

Tone · Jun 11, 2019

Jipsah said:
Not white, blue.

Frostbite white...

FreeinChrist · Jun 12, 2019

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This thread is closed. We don't need Christian Identity or white nationalist type of arguments ihere.

Japheth is white. Genesis 9:27

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