What is cheap grace?

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What is cheap grace? Didn't Jesus pay the price?

Or maybe it's a typo, Cheep grace, meaning that gospel taken too literally thinking the Holy Spirit is actually a bird. So they need to tame a bird and have it on their shoulder all the time to be saved ... yeah that just sounds funny ... I doubt anyone actually does that ... oh well.

So discussion topic, post examples of cheap grace, and discuss.
 

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What is cheap grace? Didn't Jesus pay the price?

Or maybe it's a typo, Cheep grace, meaning that gospel taken too literally thinking the Holy Spirit is actually a bird. So they need to tame a bird and have it on their shoulder all the time to be saved ... yeah that just sounds funny ... I doubt anyone actually does that ... oh well.

So discussion topic, post examples of cheap grace, and discuss.
I would say that cheap grace is grace that “saves” but doesn’t sanctify.
 
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“Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves. Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession…. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.”
— Dietrich Bonhoeffer (The Cost of Discipleship)
 
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It's basically a strawman argument the Armenians used against the Calvinist view of OSAS.

Once-saved-always-saved is an Arminian response to the verses by which the Calvinists understand Eternal Security (which is not the same thing, actually). OSAS (Arminian) means that a person who makes the change to Christ once will never be lost. Eternal Security (Calvinist) means that people can gain or lose faith, but the final outcome is predetermined.
 
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What is cheap grace? Didn't Jesus pay the price?

Or maybe it's a typo, Cheep grace, meaning that gospel taken too literally thinking the Holy Spirit is actually a bird. So they need to tame a bird and have it on their shoulder all the time to be saved ... yeah that just sounds funny ... I doubt anyone actually does that ... oh well.

So discussion topic, post examples of cheap grace, and discuss.
"Cheap Grace" is a term Salvation-by-Works Christians typically use in expressing their contempt for the gospel of grace. Salvation by grace is not "cheap", it's free.

"Now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." Rom 3:21-24

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith— and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast." Eph 2:8,9
 
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Eternal Security (Calvinist) means that people can gain or lose faith, but the final outcome is predetermined.
Nope, that's not Calvinism. The perseverance of the saints (the 5th point of Calvinism) is that one will continue in the faith and in a lifestyle consistent with that faith (1John 3:9) until the end. That's why it's called the Perseverance of the Saints.
 
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That is just a sinful human coined term and has no value. That (cheap grace or grace defined as cheap) will never be found in the Bible.
I believe it is.
When Paul speaks about trampling on Jesus, he is talking about cheapening God's grace.
Hebrews 10:29

We cheapen God's grace when we accept it and think we owe nothing in return. We owe our salvation to Him...we should act like it.
Mathew 5:3-9
 
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"Cheap Grace" is a term Salvation-by-Works Christians typically use in expressing their contempt for the gospel of grace. Salvation by grace is not "cheap", it's free.

"Now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." Rom 3:21-24

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith— and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast." Eph 2:8,9
Apparently, you don't understand the term cheap grace.

Every Christian is a salvation by works Christian.
No need for you to be so derogatory about this.
If you don't do good works...you are not a saved person.

Your faith, without works, is a dead faith.
Just as a body is dead without faith...
faith is dead without works.
James says that faith without works is USELESS...
OF NO VALUE.
James 2:20
James 2:26

Cheap grace is a term made up by biblical scholars that have written books. It shows that WE cheapen what Jesus did for us by not obeying what HE taught.

Galatians 6:9
7Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
8For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
9Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.


As to your verses, both Romans 3:21-24 and
Ephesians 2:8-9,,,,you should really begin to understand the difference between WORKS OF THE LAW and works done our of faith, for instance Romans 1:5.
 
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I believe it is.
When Paul speaks about trampling on Jesus, he is talking about cheapening God's grace.
Hebrews 10:29

We cheapen God's grace when we accept it and think we owe nothing in return. We owe our salvation to Him...we should act like it.
Mathew 5:3-9

Grace is of God (not man) and nothing from God is cheap, God does not do sorry work or offer low cost grace.
Grace like eternal life is a free gift
Hebrews 10:29 speaks of trampling the Son of God and insulting God's grace. That is not the same as grace being cheap.
 
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Every Christian is a salvation by works Christian.
No need for you to be so derogatory about this.
If you don't do good works...you are not a saved person.
No, because people who have been saved go on to do good works it doesn't mean they have been saved by works. Typical of Salvation-by-Works Christians to confuse cause and after effect. Salvation by works means that a person's salvation is contingent upon their works. I myself am not a salvation by works Christians as I have been saved by faith apart from works.
 
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So you want verses to show that a person doesn't have to work in order to be saved. OK

John 5:24 "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life."


1. One must believe God. Do you know what BELIEVE means? It means to entrust yourself to a teacher...to trust what is taught to you...to follow that teacher....to do as he teaches you.

2. The above person has eternal life because he HEARS the word of God. Those that do not hear the word of God do not have life. They're spirit is in a dead state.


Rom 4:5 "However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness."


YOU yourself have stated that we cannot be saved by WORKING. This is true. We are saved by our faith. I don't know any denomination that teaches salvation by works.

Eph 2:8,9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith— and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast."


Again, works do not save us...BUT
AFTER we are saved, works are necessary.

Maybe some day you could continue reading to
Ephesians 2:10
10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.


Rom 4:6-8 "David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:"Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him."

Even in the O.T. men were saved by faith.
God said He required our heart,,,not sacrifices.

Again, I'd like to mention the difference between WORKS OF THE LAW, and works of obedience by faith. Romans 1:5


I't very important to know the difference so as to be able to know God's word in the N.T.


Rom 3:21-24 "But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."


Again, it's speaking about works of the Law and plainly states so. I've already addressed this.

[QUOTERom 10:9-13 if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame." For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile— the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."
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Correct. This gets us saved.
Then what?

Here are the types of work the N.T. instructs us about....NOT the works of the Law...

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  1. Galatians 6:9-10
    Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.


    Luke 6:27-36

    "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either.




    1 Peter 3:8-13
    To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you might inherit a blessing. For, "THE ONE WHO DESIRES LIFE, TO LOVE AND SEE GOOD DAYS, MUST KEEP HIS TONGUE FROM EVIL AND HIS LIPS FROM SPEAKING DECEIT.


    Psalm 34:12-16
    Who is the man who desires life And loves length of days that he may see good? Keep your tongue from evil And your lips from speaking deceit. Depart from evil and do good; Seek peace and pursue it.



    Hebrews 13:16
    And do not neglect doing good and sharing, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.


    John 5:28-29
    "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.


    Romans 2:5-11
    But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;



    1 Timothy 6:17-19
    Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy. Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.


    2 Timothy 2:20-21
    Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work.



    James 2:14-21
    What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?


    2 Corinthians 9:8
    And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;


    Colossians 1:10-12
    so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; strengthened with all power, according to His glorious might, for the attaining of all steadfastness and patience; joyously giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light.

 
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Again, works do not save us...BUT
AFTER we are saved, works are necessary.
To be saved?
Maybe some day you could continue reading to
Ephesians 2:10
10For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
Are you appending that with "to be saved?" It's not there.
Here are the types of work the N.T. instructs us about....NOT the works of the Law...
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Are you appending each command with "to be saved?"
 
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"Cheap grace means grace sold on the market like cheapjacks' wares. The sacraments, the forgiveness of sin, and the consolations of religion are thrown away at cut prices. Grace is represented as the Church's inexhaustible treasury, from which she showers blessings with generous hands, without asking questions or fixing limits. Grace without price; grace without cost! The essence of grace, we suppose, is that the account has been paid in advance; and, because it has been paid, everything can be had for nothing. Since the cost was infinite, the possibilities of using and spending it are infinite. What would grace be if it were not cheap?

Cheap grace means grace as a doctrine, a principle, a system. It means forgiveness of sins proclaimed as a general truth, the love of God taught as the Christian "conception" of God. An intellectual assent to that idea is held to be of itself sufficient to secure remission of sins. The Church which holds the correct doctrine of grace has, it is supposed,
ipso facto a part in that grace. In such a Church the world finds a cheap covering for its sins; no contrition is required, still less any real desire to be delivered from sin. Cheap grace therefore amounts to a denial of the living Word of God, in fact, a denial of the Incarnation of the Word of God.

Cheap grace means the justification of sin without the justification of the sinner.
" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Cost of Discipleship

Cheap grace is to esteem what God has done as something cheap and easy. It says, "Since grace abounds let us go on sinning." (Romans 6:1), it does not confess the severity of our sin, and the costliness with which God paid with the life of His own Son. It is grace as "doctrine", rather than as Gospel. It is grace as an idea, rather than grace as forgiveness. For forgiveness is not the ground upon which we say, "I can do anything", but the ground upon which to say, "Lord have mercy on me, a sinner." Grace is the superabundance of God freely giving to the empty hands of a wretched beggar, it is not the entitlement of a beggar to act as though he is princely with fists full of glory.

Yes, grace is grace, and so is free. But it is free to us because it is paid for by the infinitely costly value of Christ's own blood and broken flesh. It is not free because it is not costly, it is free because the One who is gracious is good, and because He is good He has paid the cost gladly. We must never esteem the value of this grace as cheap, it is never cheap though it is free.

For this grace has purchased you, you belong to God; for all of us who have been baptized into Christ have been baptized into His death, and if we have died with Him we have died to sin, and must reckon ourselves dead to sin and alive to God. Not because grace is not grace and we must earn merit by our works; but because this is the reality into which we have been purchased and brought into. We have been brought into the immensity of God's unlimited kindness and goodness, having received every good and every perfect gift from the Father, in Christ His Son, our Lord, by the power and the strength and the unity of the Spirit.

There is, therefore, every reason now to regard our lives forfeit for the sake of Christ who loves us. That to live is Christ and to die is gain.

"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." - Galatians 2:20

Because of grace we know who we are now in Christ, and therefore our lives are to be displayed, crucified, before the world, as disciples of He who gave Himself freely for all.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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To be saved?

Are you appending that with "to be saved?" It's not there.

Are you appending each command with "to be saved?"
Yes.
To CONTINUE being saved, we must follow the rules set up by Jesus Himself.

Yes. I am adding to be saved to every verse I posted.
Do you think Jesus spoke to waste His breath?
Do you think Paul wrote to waste his words?
NO.
They each spoke what is very important.

Post no. 17 is an excellent post and could not be improved upon.

Our salvation is not cheap, God's grace is not cheap....but only HOW we sometimes treat it.

Jesus died for us...the least we could do is be good disciples of His.

Mathew 5:13-16
Disciples and the World

13“You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.

14“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden;
15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

I draw your attention to verse 13...
what happens to the salt when it BECOMES tasteless?

Again...I DO add to be saved - or to remain saved.
JESUS Himself has stated so.
 
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Well thanks for proving my point concerning how salvation-by-works Christians interpret scripture. For that and other ways they misconstrue scripture see Ways Salvation-by-Works Christians Misconstrue Scripture
I don't need to read any link.
Why don't you just post some scripture that you believe is relevant? Too much trouble for ya?

Jesus and Paul and Peter and John and the others didn't sit down and write their letters so we could get some kind of "award" when we die.

They went through the trouble of writing everything down so we could save our soul and HOW to save it.

Why not exegete my posts like I do instead of just saying you don't agree or posting a link?

It is my sincere belief that it is YOU that misconstrue scripture and also try to peddle it off new Christians that make the mistake of MAYBE believing what you say because it sounds so easy...easy, like cheap grace.

2 Timothy 4:3
3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,


Do you know what it means to have your ears tickled?

itching ears. Itching ears is a term used in the Bible to describe individuals who seek out messages and doctrines that condone their own lifestyle, as opposed to adhering to the teachings of the apostles. The term is found only once in the Bible, in 2 Timothy 4.

source: verse having itchy ears - Google Search
 
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