The Book of Acts isn't just for Dispensationalists!!!

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One is not allowed to point out heresy. One is not allowed to say that the Devil himself is not a Christian or one is silenced. Peace at any price.

Paul called those that preach another Gospel, other than Faith... Anathema. Galatians

But, yes... I count all that come in His name, my siblings in Him.
 
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Scripture indicates that the Judaizers were a constant problem for the Church. They first come on the scene in Acts chapter 15 where it is first mentioned of Paul’s disputes with them. As to whether the Gentiles should be taught to obey the Jewish laws was a debatable subject amongst the Apostles until James, with Peter concurring, declared that the Gentile believers be subject to none of the Jewish customs (the dietary and cleanliness laws) but to abstain from eating blood, the meat of strangled animals, idolatry, and sexual immorality. (Acts 15:20) knowing that they themselves fell short of keeping the Jewish laws. The debate, at least amongst the Apostles and accompanying elders had been settled, but the Judaizing of Gentile believers continued as is made plain in the book of Galatians and Hebrews.
They were a "constant problem" somewhat - but they also seemed to have been WITHIN the church. They weren't outsiders (and that's what necessitated the Council at Jerusalem in 50 A.D.).

Acts 15:5 says:
But some of the believers from the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to command them to keep the law of Moses!"

.....and in v. 7, Peter addresses them as "brothers":

Acts 15:7 ~ After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them: "Brothers, you are aware that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the gospel message and believe.

......and then in v. 9, this is written:

v.9 ~ He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.


Acts 15 - Obedience or Legalism

ETA: .......and v. 21 mentions how the Law of Moses was still read each week in the synagogues (so we can't say it was thrown away, IMO, just that it's about the fulfillment in Jesus and the Law being written on our hearts and an inward obedience out of faith and love, not an external, fear-based obedience):

v. 21 ~ For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."
 
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One is not allowed to point out heresy. One is not allowed to say that the Devil himself is not a Christian or one is silenced. Peace at any price.

Jude 1:9 is the flip side of the coin. There I see what you mean, though I think pointing out loose doctrine that draws people to no longer abide in Christ, alone is well.
 
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Jude 1:9 is the flip side of the coin. There I see what you mean, though I think pointing out loose doctrine that draws people to no longer abide in Christ, alone is well.
My point is that how the early church corrected false doctrine is not allowed today and especially not on this site. What the Angel did would get him expelled from this site.
 
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Paul called those that preach another Gospel, other than Faith... Anathema. Galatians

But, yes... I count all that come in His name, my siblings in Him.
Paul said he beat his body lest he be disqualified. Does not sound like "only believism." His whole life was not one of "just believe" as though believing were merely mentally agreeing with a point.
 
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This is an interesting way to put it.

1050 commands? Is that what Christ wanted?

Isaiah 29:13
Titus 1:14
1 Timothy 1:4
Colossians 2:18-22
Mark 7:7
1 Timothy 4:1-3
Proverbs 30:5-6
1 Corinthians 15:2
THere are and really have been only two. Love God with all your being and love your neighbor as yourself.
 
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Peter had to be corrected by Paul.
ONly on one point and one point alone. To make a blank statement is to infer that Peter and Paul believed differenlty about Christ. Peter was corrected about his actions, not his theology in any case.
Peter followed Jesus but almost got Judaized. We see this in the dialogue that opens Galatians.
That is saying too much. He has some fear of man and distanced himself from the Gentiles. He was not becoming judiazied by not eating with Gentiles.
Paul didn’t invent grace... I see the gospels as 1. What I’m attempting to express is that Paul speaks unique in that He was taught by the Ascended Christ, as he states. He had to assist Peter.
Peter was withdrawing from the Gentiles. That is it. THere is no evidence that Paul assisted Peter in his theology. NOt one word. Barnabas and Paul disagreed but the scriptures do not say who was right. Perhaps Barnabas was trying to assist Paul but Paul refused to listen.
When a person walks by faith and allows the Holy Spirit to work naturally, instead of focusing on one’s flesh... God flows through a person.
That is pretty vague. And I do not find this to be the rule when one recognizes and struggles against sin. It does not come naturally. Look at the church. Do any of us fid that God is flowing through everyone naturallly? How come there is so much divorce in the church then? That is something GOd hates. Is it because those who divorce have no faith? I would not say so. The problem is not a lack of faith but a lack of obedience and loving GOd and man. That seems more reasonable to me.
 
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This is why Paul adapted Himself to witness... this is the point of All things to All men.
Well, since Paul angered a great many people, we can see that this adapting was limited. He was wiling to talk and think like a Jew to the Jew but not sin. He was willing to talk and think like a Gentile but not willing to sin. When asked to do something he considered sin, he was no longer willing to be all things to all men. Same with all the apostles. There are limits to adaptation.
 
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ONly on one point and one point alone. To make a blank statement is to infer that Peter and Paul believed differenlty about Christ. Peter was corrected about his actions, not his theology in any case.
That is saying too much. He has some fear of man and distanced himself from the Gentiles. He was not becoming judiazied by not eating with Gentiles.
Peter was withdrawing from the Gentiles. That is it. THere is no evidence that Paul assisted Peter in his theology. NOt one word. Barnabas and Paul disagreed but the scriptures do not say who was right. Perhaps Barnabas was trying to assist Paul but Paul refused to listen.
That is pretty vague. And I do not find this to be the rule when one recognizes and struggles against sin. It does not come naturally. Look at the church. Do any of us fid that God is flowing through everyone naturallly? How come there is so much divorce in the church then? That is something GOd hates. Is it because those who divorce have no faith? I would not say so. The problem is not a lack of faith but a lack of obedience and loving GOd and man. That seems more reasonable to me.

Peter makes it clear Paul had to assist him...

He calls Paul complicated to understand.
 
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Well, since Paul angered a great many people, we can see that this adapting was limited. He was wiling to talk and think like a Jew to the Jew but not sin. He was willing to talk and think like a Gentile but not willing to sin. When asked to do something he considered sin, he was no longer willing to be all things to all men. Same with all the apostles. There are limits to adaptation.

Paul specifies He wasn’t under the commandments, but only the Royal Law we see in James.
 
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Paul said he beat his body lest he be disqualified. Does not sound like "only believism." His whole life was not one of "just believe" as though believing were merely mentally agreeing with a point.

Philippians 3:9

Romans 4:4-6

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Well, since Paul angered a great many people, we can see that this adapting was limited. He was wiling to talk and think like a Jew to the Jew but not sin. He was willing to talk and think like a Gentile but not willing to sin. When asked to do something he considered sin, he was no longer willing to be all things to all men. Same with all the apostles. There are limits to adaptation.

Paul was a little ticked at the commandment keeping Cartels.

Galatians does really start out after the intro... You Foolish! :p
 
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Philippians 3:9

Romans 4:4-6

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1 Corinthians 9:27

One needs to read all of what the Bible says to understand the message of what faith and grace and how faith without works is dead. If one does not want to have to love God or man, then one needs to isolate and extract individual sentences away from the context. Whether God recognizes that sort of faith as vaild remains to be seen.
 
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Paul was a little ticked at the commandment keeping Cartels.

Galatians does really start out after the intro... You Foolish! :p
I do not find the word Cartels in the whole of the Bible.
 
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Paul specifies He wasn’t under the commandments, but only the Royal Law we see in James.
Anyone who lives under the royal law knows that it is more binding than the Mosaic law but different. No one in ancient Israel lived the rough life the apostles did. Love demands more, not less, than the law.
 
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I do not find the word Cartels in the whole of the Bible.

My polite and creative name. Humor employed. :)

He called them Judaizers and pretty much told them they should castrate themselves for Commandment pushing.

Circumcision is a physical symbol of trying to serve God with flesh.
 
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Peter makes it clear Paul had to assist him...

He calls Paul complicated to understand.
Please tell me where Paul said "I need to assist Peter." I read he rebuked him for withdrawing from associating with the Gentiles. Barnabas was maybe assisting Paul.

He isn't the only one who said Paul's writings were difficult. Peter did not seem to say that Paul had to assist him though.
 
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My polite and creative name. Humor employed. :)

He called them Judaizers and pretty much told the they should castrate themselves for Commandment pushing.

Circumcision is a physical symbol of trying to serve God with flesh.
OK, I agree. And the Judiazers were a definate problem.
 
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1 Corinthians 9:27

One needs to read all of what the Bible says to understand the message of what faith and grace and how faith without works is dead. If one does not want to have to love God or man, then one needs to isolate and extract individual sentences away from the context. Whether God recognizes that sort of faith as vaild remains to be seen.

You answered your statement. Paul journeyed to his bodies tearing down, for the sake of Christ.
 
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Please tell me where Paul said "I need to assist Peter." I read he rebuked him for withdrawing from associating with the Gentiles. Barnabas was maybe assisting Paul.

He isn't the only one who said Paul's writings were difficult. Peter did not seem to say that Paul had to assist him though.

Maybe... I gather your reasoning.

The fact remains that Peter was rebuked by Paul and fell into line. :)
 
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