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I will do what you will not do.
I will explain the verses.
Sorry, I beat you to it on quoting 2 Peter 3:16; Either that or you are copying me again. Anyways, in my defense of quoting 2 Peter 3:16, I provided a ton of verses using 8 points proving why Paul was speaking as a Pharisee in Romans 7:14-24 (and not as a Christian) (See Post #211).
In fact, your belief in no way is supported by your quoting of 2 Peter 3:16.
Try going back to the previous chapter and re-read it.
For if a person were to read 2 Peter 2 carefully, they will notice that Peter talks about false teachers in 2 Peter 2:1, and then he mentions how these false teachers are identified in the fact that they do not cease from sin (2 Peter 2:14).
How exactly does a sin and still be saved belief work if Peter condemned those for doing so?
"Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression." (Romans 4:15).
What Law is Paul referring to?
All law?
Or the 613 Old Testament laws from the Law of Moses?
I would say it was the Old Law because Paul is referring to circumcision in the previous chapter (See: Romans 3:1).
Paul said elsewhere that if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ, and the doctrine according to godliness, he is proud and he knows nothing (See: 1 Timothy 6:3-4).
Paul mentioned that there is a Law called: The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus in Romans 8:2.
Is that the Law of Moses?
Or is that a New Covenant Law?
Does this Law not include walking after the Spirit and not after the flesh (i.e. sin)? (See Romans 8:1).
Also, why does the Law work wrath?
It's because you could be physically killed for disobeying the Old Testament Law of Moses.
This is not the case in the New Covenant.
The law of the land is supposed to judge men and not God's people.
This is clearly talking about the Law of Moses, because the context is in reference to Israel (See Romans 10:1). The Israelites followed the Old Law and not the laws by Jesus and His followers. But of course you have to take verses like this out of context to make your belief work here.
And if you were to skip back a chapter (Hebrews 3), you would realize that a person can harden their hearts by the deceitfulness of sin and thereby depart from the living God by doing so (See Hebrews 3:12-14).
A person is only to be restored back if they follow the protocol in James 5:19-20.
If a believer is to struggle with sin, they are to confess of that sin and other believers can pray for that believer to overcome their grievous sin (See 1 John 5:16-17).
This is what it means to bear one another's burdens.
But my guess is you have no idea what these passages even say.
For passages like these have to go either ignored or changed in your belief.
First, how can love cover a multitude of sins if all future sin is paid for by having a belief in Jesus.
Second, skip back up to 1 Peter 4:1-2.
Verse 1 essentially says that the person who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin (Note: I believe this is referring to grievous sin). Verse 2 says we are not to live the rest of the time here on Earth to the lusts of the flesh, but to the will of God.
Skip back up and read the context. In verse 14, it says they have eyes full of adultery, and they cannot cease from sin. Do you just skip passed verses like 2 Peter 2:14?
Both of these chapters are talking about the Justification Process and they are not talking about the Sanctification Process that follows Justification. For it is clear that Ephesians 2 is talking about "Initial Salvation" because Ephesians 2:1 talks about how we are quickened. Believers are quickened one time. Ephesians 2:8 talks about how we are saved by God's grace through faith is like a gift. Gifts are received one time. Ephesians 3:17 says that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith.
Galatians 3 is also talking about "Initial Salvation" because the "Law" (the Old Law) was a school master to bring us unto Christ. The Old Law was never for the Gentiles but it was only for the nation of Israel. Granted, the Gentiles by nature sometimes obeyed the Moral Law within the Old Law (See Romans 2). So the Moral Law shows a person that they have broken it, and they need a Savior. Again, this would be "Initial Salvation" because the Old Law was a means to pointing us to Christ.
I seriously appreciate your fervor for God. In witness, I approach all as more righteous than myself, and deliver the hope, from that stance.
You might even say, I'm hoping the person allows me to take the LOWEST SERVANT's Job, by "Washing their Feet".
Sin and Satan are REAL! It grips people like nothing else and they not only feel condemned and like Lepors in their hearts, but they feel HOPELESS.
This is and always will be my stance.
God Bless you, fervent Brother of the Law. Please listen! Do not empty the Cross of it's absolute, Sovereign Power, endowed by YHWH.
That LOVE UNCONDITIONAL of JESUS CHRIST does this:
But, Brother! Go and learn what being WISE as a SERPENT, BUT HARMLESS as a DOVE means.
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