Joy and Peace in Believing

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Joy and Peace in Believing

Rom 15:13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Those of us who believe the gospel are outright given eternal life right now. Salvation from condemnation has already been accomplished, and that not based upon our performance, but rather simply because we believe in Christ and Christ's promise. Jesus promised, "whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life." John 5:24 And consequently we rejoice in our fate firmly established for us because we believe that God is willing and able to do what He promised. Therefore "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." Heb 10:23 and "He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful." 1Cor 1:8,9 Doubting the promise of God is doubting God. Faith in Christ should eliminate doubt. And as such joy and peace in believing are inherent qualities of saving faith.

"Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God." Rom 5:1,2

Such qualities of saving faith are indicative of those elect to eternal life. Regarding the promise of God Abraham "did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised." Rom 4:20,21 Likewise of the Thessalonians Paul says, "we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you" 1Th 1:4 He then goes on to explain how he knows that. One such evidence is "in spite of severe suffering, you welcomed the message with the joy given by the Holy Spirit." 1Th 1:6 He also speaks of "your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord Jesus Christ." 1Th 1:3

An indication of such hope is freedom from fears and anxieties. Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid." John 14:27 and Paul, "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." Php 4:6,7 Those who are anxious about whether or not they will be saved are those who not only don't believe the gospel, they don't obey it. Obedience to the gospel means to believe it. "The way of peace they do not know." Rom 3:17

Now there are those who, unlike the Thessalonians, are ones "who hear the word and at once receives it with joy. But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away." Mt 13:20,21 The joy that comes from really believing the gospel of grace endures in the midst of opposition.

The Galatians received the word with joy but were challenged with opposition from the Christian sect of the Circumcision and consequently Paul noticed, "What has happened to all your joy?" Gal 4:15 That sect was the forerunner of the Neo-Circumcision sects of today, like Catholicism and other salvation by works Christian sects. Paul says of the Circumcison, "This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves." Gal 2:4 Slaves to a joyless salvation by works soteriology. In contrast "there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." Rom 8:1,2. Salvation by works Christianity is enslaved to the law of sin and death, their salvation being contingent upon sin.

Many of the Salvation by Works Christians sects attempt to mislead people into thinking they don't believe in salvation by works. In many cases, like with Catholicism, they'll parse between two types of salvation. The first being "initial salvation" or they may refer to it as "justification" which they say is by faith alone apart from works, but for them that is just the start of the process of salvation culminating in "Final salvation" which involves works. They don't believe that if a person is initially "saved" by faith he will finally be saved. Salvation is not actually salvation if the person ends up in hell. So if salvation is not finalized upon coming to faith in Christ, it's not salvation.

But concerning Final Salvation, according to the Catholic Catechism it says under the topic "Final Salvation"
Catechism of the Catholic Church - The Ten Commandments
The Council of Trent teaches that the Ten Commandments are obligatory for Christians and that the justified man is still bound to keep them; the Second Vatican Council confirms: "The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments.

In fact what the Catholics refer to as "Commandments" go beyond the 10 Commandments as they add a plethora of commandments like if you wear a condom you're guilty of a mortal sin. Can't find that in the 10 Commandments. Likewise other Neo-Circumcision non-Catholic sects, like the holiness Pentecostals will have their own plethora of commands they have to comply with in order to be saved. Like they'll append every command in the New Testament with "in order to be saved". It's a different gospel. Yes, they'll claim it's scriptural. But they'll misread scripture to get at it.

The kingdom of God is not a matter of conforming to regulations. "For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit" Rom 14:17 In contrast in my dialogues with salvation by works Christians they discourage peace and joy. They're troubled by the fact that, unlike themselves, we of the faith are confident of our salvation status and our destiny. "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy" 1Peter 1:8

"To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen." Jude 1:24,25
 
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Maybe there's room in Paradise for both groups? I mean those who are weak, try to do the work of God but fail and humbly hope in Christ to save them, and also those who successfully work out their salvation with fear and trembling. Is Christ so... legalistic to deprive those who humbly struggle to do what He commanded because of some doctrinal technicality (the faith/works issue) that you think they failed to grasp?

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I shall tell you something strange, but do not be surprised by it. Should you fail to attain dispassion because of the predispositions dominating you, but at the time of your death be in the depths of humility, you will be exalted above the clouds no less than the man who is dispassionate. - St. John of the Ladder
 
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Maybe there's room in Paradise for both groups? I mean those who are weak, try to do the work of God but fail and humbly hope in Christ to save them, and also those who successfully work out their salvation with fear and trembling. Is Christ so... legalistic to deprive those who humbly struggle to do what He commanded because of some doctrinal technicality (the faith/works issue) that you think they failed to grasp?

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I shall tell you something strange, but do not be surprised by it. Should you fail to attain dispassion because of the predispositions dominating you, but at the time of your death be in the depths of humility, you will be exalted above the clouds no less than the man who is dispassionate. - St. John of the Ladder
So you're saying maybe the sect of the Circumcision was saved? After all, all they wanted to do was to add a religious ceremony and the Law of Moses which was given by God. Let's see Paul's attitude.

"I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!" Gal 1:6-9

Sounds a bit upset with that idea!
 
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So you're saying maybe the sect of the Circumcision was saved? After all, all they wanted to do was to add a religious ceremony and the Law of Moses which was given by God. Let's see Paul's attitude.

Sounds a bit upset with that idea!
I was talking about Christ's commandments, which are even more demanding than the Law of Moses (Matthew 5): striving to be poor in spirit (humble) and meek, mourning for our sins, hungering for righteousness, being merciful, purifying our heart from evil thoughts, reconciling men among themselves and with God, (being a peacemaker), turning the other cheek, allowing the plundering of our possessions, forgiving our enemies... loving everyone!
 
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I was talking about Christ's commandments, which are even more demanding than the Law of Moses (Matthew 5): striving to be poor in spirit (humble) and meek, mourning for our sins, hungering for righteousness, being merciful, purifying our heart from evil thoughts, reconciling men among themselves and with God, (being a peacemaker), turning the other cheek, allowing the plundering of our possessions, forgiving our enemies... loving everyone!
So you're saying the Circumcision didn't go far enough? They should have made salvation contingent upon even more stringent laws? Is that what Paul was so upset about?
 
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So you're saying the Circumcision didn't go far enough? They should have made salvation contingent upon even more stringent laws? Is that what Paul was so upset about?
What I said was that Christ is merciful towards those who do violence on themselves and successfully carry out His commandments (Matthew 11:12), as well as those who only travel with Him only the first mile of faith, but out of weakness fail to go the second mile of works (Matthew 5:41).

As for Circumcision not going far enough, even Paul says that in 1 Corinthians 7:19:

For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God.​

Just because some foxes get caught in the traps of the hunters and lose their tails (works), it doesn't mean that we should all do the same so that they can feel better. Afterall, God is glorified with... bushy tails (Matthew 5:16).
 
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