OldWiseGuy said:
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Ezekiel 37 is clearly the second resurrection that takes place in the millennium.
LittleLambofJesus said:
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When's the 1st one?
1 Corinthians 15:22-23
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Paul and James both use the same word #3952 as used in the
70ad Jerusalem/Temple discourse.
That word always intrigued me because of the fact it is used only in
4 verses of the entire Gospels........
all in Matt 24.
A thread from on it from 2007 [it is closed because of "age"]
[I also have other threads on it and may create a new one]
What is the "Parousia" in the New Testament
May 17, 2007
Chickapee said:
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Hi Little Lamb ,,great thoughts !
I was reading this again and was wondering if the same WORDS
parousia , coming 22 times and ''presence'' 2 times was what your getting ?
Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
and if you believe that this
event a ''
personal '' or'' Individual '''' return of Christ , like I do or if its a massive and all together return as some tend to believe ?
thanks bro!
i love this thread , makes me think
hee hee
peace and Gods love .........Chicka
1 Corinthians 15:
23 and each in their proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ’s,
in His parousia<3952>,
24
then — the end<5056>, when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power
Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized
Matthew 24:1
And Jesus coming out, departed from
the Temple.
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
4930. sunteleia from 4931;
entire completion, i.e. consummation (of a dispensation):--end.
4931. sunteleo from 4862 and 5055;
to complete entirely; generally, to execute (literally or figuratively):--end, finish, fulfil, make.
Matthew 24:3
Yet of Him sitting on the Mount of the Olives, the Disciples came toward to Him according to own saying "be telling to us! when shall these be?
and what the sign of
Thy Parousia<3952> and full-end<4930<5055>> of the Age?
Mark 13
4 Tell us!
when these shall be?and
what the sign whenever may be being about<3195>
all these to be fully concluded<4931<5055>>.
Luke 21
7 They inquire yet of Him saying “Teacher!
when then shall
these be? And
what the sign whenever may be being about<3195>
these to becoming<1096>?
James 5:8
be ye patient! also stand-fast the hearts of ye,
that the Parousia <3952> of the Lord has-neared<1448>
1 Peter 4:7
Of all-things yet the End<5056> is nigh<1448>
be sane then, and be sober into the prayers,
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G3952 (NKJV)
TR Occurrences 24x in 4 unique form(s)
παρουσία — 6x
παρουσίᾳ — 9x
παρουσίαν — 3x
παρουσίας — 6x
παρουσία — 6x
Parsing: Nominative Feminine Singular
Parousia <3952>
Matthew 24:27, 37, 39;
2 Corinthians 10:10
2 Thessalonians 2:9
James 5:8
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Matthew 24:3 Commentaries: As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
EXEGETICAL (ORIGINAL LANGUAGES)
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
The sign of thy coming.—Literally, of Thy presence. The passage is memorable as the first occurrence of the word (
παρονσία, parousia), which was so prominent in the teaching of the Epistles (
1Thessalonians 2:19;
1Thessalonians 3:13;
James 5:7;
1John 2:28, et al.). They had brought themselves to accept the thought of His departure and return, though time and manner were as yet hidden from them.
Meyer's NT Commentary
τῆς σῆς παρουσίας] After his repeated intimations of future suffering and death, the disciples could not conceive of the advent of Jesus (
1 Corinthians 15:23;
1 Thessalonians 2:19;
in the Gospels peculiar to Matthew) to set up His kingdom and make a permanent stay in any other way than as a solemn second coming.
After His resurrection they expected the Risen One straightway to set up His kingdom (
Acts 1:6),—a very natural expectation when we bear in mind that the resurrection was an unlooked-for event; but, after the ascension, their hopes were directed, in accordance with the express promises of Jesus, to the coming from heaven, which they believed was going to take place ere long,
Acts 1:11;
Acts 3:20 f., al., and the numerous passages in the New Testament Epistles. Comp. Wittichen in the Jahrb. f. Deutsche Theol. 1862, p. 354 ff. Observe, too, the emphatic σῆς coming after the general expression ταῦτα.
καὶ συντελ. τοῦ αἰῶνος] In the Gospels we find no trace of the millenarian ideas of the Apocalypse.
The τοῦ αἰῶνος, with the article, but not further defined, is to be understood as referring to the existing, the then current age of the world, i.e. to the αἰὼν οὗτος, which is brought to a close (συντέλεια) with the second coming, inasmuch as, with this latter event, the αἰὼν μέλλων begins. See on
Matthew 13:39.
The second coming, the resurrection and the last judgment, fall upon the ἐσχάτη ἡμέρα (John 6:39; John 11:24), which, as it will be the last day of the αἰὼν οὗτος in general, so of the ἐσχάτων ἡμερῶν (
Acts 2:17;
2 Timothy 3:1;
Jam 5:3;
Hebrews 1:2;
2 Peter 3:3) in particular, or of the καιρὸς ἔσχατος (
1 Peter 1:5), or of the χρόνος ἔσχατος (
Judges 1:18;
1 Peter 1:20), which John likewise calls the ἐσχάτη ὥρα (
1 John 2:18).
This concluding period,
which terminates with the last day, is to be characterized by abounding distress and wickedness (see on
Galatians 1:4). The article was unnecessary before συντελείας, seeing that it is followed by the genitive of specification; Winer, p. 118 f. [E. T. 155].
Pulpit Commentary
Sign of thy coming (τῆς σῆς παρουσίας), and of the end of the world (συντελείας τοῦ αἰῶνος). They look upon these two events as synchronous, or very closely connected.
The word parousia, which in classical Greek means "presence," or "arrival," is used in the New Testament specially for the second advent of Christ to set up his eternal kingdom in full power and glory (see in this chapter vers. 27, 37, 39; and comp.
1 Corinthians 15:23;
1 Thessalonians 2:19;
1 Thessalonians 3:13, etc.).
Referring to the same event, we find in some places the term "epiphany" used (see
1 Timothy 6:14;
2 Timothy 4:1), and in others "revelation" (ἀποκάλυψις,
1 Corinthians 1:7;
2 Thessalonians 1:7); but the three expressions denote simply the open establishment of Messiah's kingdom, indefnitely as to time and manner.
The phrase translated "the end of the world "means literally
the consummation of the age (cf.
Matthew 13:39; Hebrews 9:26); consummationis saeculi (Vulgate); i.e. the close of this present seen, in contradistinction from the future aeon, or the world to come. This is "the last time," "the last days," spoken of elsewhere (see
1 Peter 1:5;
1 John 2:18; and comp.
Isaiah 2:2;
Micah 4:1).
Benson Commentary
Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? —
These seem to be only different expressions to denote the same period with the destruction of Jerusalem, the disciples supposing, that when the destruction of Jerusalem should take place, then would be the coming of Christ and the end of the world, or, the conclusion of the age, as συντελεια του αιωνος should rather be translated here, and often signifies. See especially Hebrews 9:36; and
1 Corinthians 10:11.
Accordingly, in the parallel place of
Mark 13:4, their question is expressed thus, When shall these things be, and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? And in that of
Luke 21:7, thus, When shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
The disciples therefore inquire concerning two things; 1st, the time of the destruction of Jerusalem; and, 2d, the signs of it. The latter part of the question our Lord answers first, and treats of the signs of his coming from the 4th to the 31st verse, inclusive; and then passes on to the other part of the question, concerning the time of his coming. Jesus answered, Take heed that no man deceive you — The caution was more particularly designed for the succeeding Christians, whom the apostles then represented. For many shall come in my name — That is, as Doctor Campbell renders it, many will assume my character; a reading which expresses our Lord’s meaning more precisely than ours.
For to come in any one’s name signifies more properly with us, to come by one’s authority or order, real or pretended; in which sense the Messiah came in the name of God, the apostles came in the name of Christ. But this is far from being the sense of the phrase in this passage; where it plainly signifies that many would usurp his title, make pretensions to his office and character, and thereby lead their followers into the most fatal delusion, saying, I am Christ —
Our Lord begins with this, according to all the evangelists, and they all represent him as using almost the same words:
only in Luke 21:8, he adds, the time draweth near; and indeed within a very little time this part of the prophecy began to be fulfilled. Very soon after our Saviour’s decease appeared Simon Magus, who boasted himself among the Jews as the Song of Solomon of God, and gave out among the Samaritans, that he was some great one,
Acts 8:9-10.
Of the same stamp and character was Dositheus, the Samaritan, who pretended that he was the Christ foretold by Moses. In the reign of Claudius, about twelve years after the death of our Saviour, when Cuspius Fadus was procurator of Judea, an impostor, named Theudas, persuaded a great multitude to follow him, with their best effects, to the river Jordan, for he said that he was a prophet, and promised to divide the river for their passage; and saying these things, he deceived many, says Josephus.
But Fadus sent a troop of horse against them, who, falling unexpectedly upon them, killed many, and made many prisoners; and having taken Theudas himself alive, they cut off his head and brought it to Jerusalem. A few years afterward, in the reign of Nero, when Felix was procurator of Judea, such a number of these impostors made their appearance, that many of them were apprehended and killed every day. They seduced great numbers of the people still expecting the Messiah. Our Saviour might well, therefore, caution his disciples against them.