Is Salvation not good enough?

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
Of course.

The question for you is ... is the Holy Spirit working through the Catholic Church?

He asked first. :sorry:

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Yes, friends follow Christian relativism.
Christ says he founded a Church with authority and it is the pillar and truth, and that church is all of us even when denominations have completely different beliefs.

The basics for all is to follow Jesus, who cares about the Apostles and the Early Christians defending the truth.

It won't hurt us having more than 12 thousand different groups.

I kind of get your point... but Acts 11:26 and Scripture should be the Apostolic Authority.

Even what is called the Mother church wasn't founded until 380 AD... Soooooo.... Maybe we should trust Scripture? IDK

Tone · Jun 2, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
Of course.

The question for you is ... is the Holy Spirit working through the Catholic Church?

Through certain members of it...no doubt. As a whole, as far as the institution...I don't know.

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
Of course.

The question for you is ... is the Holy Spirit working through the Catholic Church?

The Holy Spirit works through Genuine Believers that are "within" the Catholic Church. The same goes for all humanity. IMO

Not David · Jun 2, 2019

Grip Docility said:
I kind of get your point... but Acts 11:26 and Scripture should be the Apostolic Authority.

Even what is called the Mother church wasn't founded until 380 AD... Soooooo.... Maybe we should trust Scripture? IDK

Yes, fellow Christians! The Bible came out of Heaven like the Quran, and Constantine was the first Pope. Let's all listen to the prophet Jack Chick.

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Yes, fellow Christians! The Bible came out of Heaven like the Quran, and Constantine was the first Pope. Let's all listen to the prophet Jack Chick.

Do you believe 2 Timothy 3:16 to be true in refrence to the 66 and 73?

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Yes, fellow Christians! The Bible came out of Heaven like the Quran, and Constantine was the first Pope. Let's all listen to the prophet Jack Chick.

I started to put funny, but Chick Tracts have brought many to Christ. Do you disagree?

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

David Cabrera said:
Yes, fellow Christians! The Bible came out of Heaven like the Quran, and Constantine was the first Pope. Let's all listen to the prophet Jack Chick.

The catholic church didnt write the scriptures, doesnt always interpret them correctly, and was not the first church.

chevyontheriver · Jun 2, 2019

W2L said:
He asked first.

And I answered first.

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

W2L said:
The catholic church didnt write the scriptures, doesnt always interpret them correctly, and was not the first church.

Since Moses wasn't Roman Catholic, I'm forced to agree with you.

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Since Moses wasn't Roman Catholic, I'm forced to agree with you.

Neither was Peter, Paul, James or John.

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
And I answered first.

My apologies, i didnt see that, sorry.

Grip Docility · Jun 2, 2019

W2L said:
Neither was Peter, Paul, James or John.

I think David might have been.

Oh, nope... Hmmmm.... You may be onto something.

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

Grip Docility said:
You may be onto something.

Yes.

Tone · Jun 2, 2019

W2L said:
Neither was Peter, Paul, James or John.

I was just gonna say that ^.

His student · Jun 2, 2019

chilehed said:
No, they're not. You're forcing a distinctively Protestant idea into a Catholic framework where it quite simply does not fit.

If I didn't understand the way of salvation preached in the Roman Catholic church I might agree with you.

But I do and I don't.

So long as Rome teaches that understanding and participating in those higher truths is necessary for salvation - you are completely wrong.

thecolorsblend · Jun 2, 2019

Grip Docility said:
And it's a good thing... It sure did benefit them. Just look at how awesomely their extra scriptural writings guided them...

John 6:36

Matthew 15:9

Are you criticizing how God structured ancient Judaism? Because He is the one who organized it as a non-"sola scriptura" religion, you know. The prophets didn't appoint themselves, after all.

thecolorsblend · Jun 2, 2019

W2L · Jun 2, 2019

thecolorsblend said:
Concerns, yes. But not about apostles.

You can start whenever you're ready.

chilehed · Jun 2, 2019

His student said:
If I didn't understand the way of salvation preached in the Roman Catholic church I might agree with you.

But I do...

I'd have an easier time believing that if you didn't misrepresent it so badly.

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