Spouse's constant sexual innuendos and gas lighting

Does your husband do this?

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Help :(?

I am not only just feeling annoyed, but I really see my husband as a pest and he thinks he's "a normal healthy man" for being so perverted---I doesn't ever question anything he ever does beyond worldly standards, and he makes excuses for this.


To sum him up: I am grossed out paranoid about being touched or sneaked up on by predators in my home sometimes.....all because my husband refuses to act civil and he grabs me whenever he's got a chance. I cannot put my guard down to just relax unless he's left for work.

You also can't ask a simple question without it going to a sexual innuendo. It's so annoying!!!! like I feel his brain operates only to have sex some days and has no other purpose but to breed.

Because of both his only preferring things that are "anti-cancer" and his sexual perverted behaviour, I don't feel he has any real personality or a higher sense of life purpose at all. He thinks because I am his wife, anything he does isn't considered inappropriate, he says this, no matter what he says or does "it's perfectly normal between husband and wife"---in a creepy tone of voice that makes me so disgusted I want to back up and run the hay away.

I feel the yucks just thinking about it......and this is def' gas lighting! how would he know what is "normal"? he just is such a creep some days. He even used my telephoto camera lens one day to peek into the condo windows of other apartments because a lot of stupid woman don't close their blinds----but him purposefully looking is def' sinful and perved behaviour, it takes actual effort to peer into a window across the street. It is no way an "accident" to see anything.

Then he tries to lie to me and speak on my behalf at once" you used to like it!"
NO, I NEVER liked it! He's taking away my sense of consent and expects me to "want" him? YUCK. "But I buy groceries"...so what? you'd be buying the groceries even if you were single, for goodness sakes, and you don't even know how to cook your so called "anti-cancer food, you make ME do it for you and get angry when it doesn't meet your "standards". I still buy my own food that he won't "approve of for being healthy anti-cancer"....such as "Radiation fish" or "unhealthy processed" salad dressings.

He's also a control freak and he's always up to something to make sure hes "in control", either his tone of voice, or "don't worry, I got this" he'll say, as he does something for weird reasons......he does the exact opposite of what people want and says ""trust me" or "don't worry". He's even said that to a boss once in a text without telling them what he was doing, and he wonders why he got fired? instead, he pulled the "they are racist" card instead of "maybe I was being too cocky and full of myself"
 
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Give counseling a chance. I see many patterns in what you describe which may improve if he is willing to work consistently on them. You should also participate in the counseling and provide input.

Praying for you both...
 
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You’re the one who has to live with this. But your husband is obviously very attracted to you even after being married for a while now. That’s actually a positive thing.

The frat boy stuff could be a simple lack of maturity on his part. Most men grow out of it.

He sounds a little insecure about some things. He has feelings too. Have you ever tried validating them? Men generally want to be admired by their wives, after all.

The grabbing stuff isn’t for everybody. Some spouses like it and some spouses don’t. It’s perfectly reasonable to tell him to knock it off with that stuff.
 
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You’re the one who has to live with this. But your husband is obviously very attracted to you even after being married for a while now. That’s actually a positive thing.

The frat boy stuff could be a simple lack of maturity on his part. Most men grow out of it.

He sounds a little insecure about some things. He has feelings too. Have you ever tried validating them? Men generally want to be admired by their wives, after all.

The grabbing stuff isn’t for everybody. Some spouses like it and some spouses don’t. It’s perfectly reasonable to tell him to knock it off with that stuff.
he really is immature, I told him he acts like he's never even seen a girl in his life and can't seem to control his reactions to it.....it feels like I married a teenager who has seen a chest for the first time in his life and can't stop staring at me like I'm a tv show....like literally, just staring at my chest.....in front of my infant-toddler girl, too. He watches me breastfeed sometimes and it's awkward. I don't feel he will ever grow out, he's already 35 and gawks at woman without trying to control himself.

It seems weird to show admiration for going to his job every day, he only mocked me for going to my "low wage, blue collar crappy job" and had zero respect for getting up at 6:30 am to do it---it's very hard to admire his whiny behaviour >_>>

I feel like a guy who can't control himself when he sees a girl, isn't trustworthy. I don't feel I can trust him in general because of his gas lighting and manipulation red flags----you don't always know what he wants, but you know he's up to something.
 
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Ask him to go to counseling with you and hash it all out. Communication is needed and if he ignores how you feel maybe counseling can help him see how it affects you. Did he act like this before marriage? Obviously not the grabbing , but the constant sexual talk, obsession over food, etc? He shouldn't purposely be doing things to make you uncomfortable and there are ways to express desire and wants from your spouse that don't make the other spouse constantly annoyed or on edge. Trying to catch other women in other apartments by peeping at them is really weird and he shouldn't be doing that. All of that needs to be discussed.

eta: I went and read some of your other threads and posts about your marriage . Have things gotten better or worse? There seems to be ongoing problems and you really do need to find a counselor to talk with. Some of the things you mentioned are alarming and should not be part of a healthy marriage . It is not normal .
 
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Is he a Christian? And pardons if I missed your mentioning that.
no it's okay, I'd be questioning it too, as I still do myself........he's more of a head knowledge know it all than a type that really tries to grasp what is being taught and applying it
 
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I don't really see anything wrong with the sexual talk or grabbing per say. It's good to have a spouse that is focused on you. However the rest of what you mentioned seems like does need counseling. It's weird that he's attracted to you, and yet looks at other women, peeps in on other women...etc.
 
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no it's okay, I'd be questioning it too, as I still do myself........he's more of a head knowledge know it all than a type that really tries to grasp what is being taught and applying it

I see, then I suppose citing scripture against what he's doing wouldn't help much.

Try telling him it's biblical he'll go to hell if he doesn't stop it, lol. I'm not sure it is but might wake him up. :)
 
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Sorry to be so blunt, but if you aren't having sex with him often maybe you should try to. It sounds like it might be a case of him trying to initiate it and getting frequently rebuked, in which case the desire persists, and so do the advances...

As for peeping on other women, that ought to stop. Especially if it's intentional, but even if its accidental.
 
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I think his constant sexual desire is too much for a normal woman to deal with, also watching you breastfeed lustfully, gawking at other women, spying on them too, constantly grabbing and staring at your chest are all lustful behavior. He's supposed to treat you in an honorable way as a Christian man and not a sex object.

Pray for him, he needs it. I suppose he's also into watching inappropriate content especially when you're not available for him to grab and gawk at. Does he have any hobbies besides sex?
 
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It's sad that your husband is objectifying you and other women, as well as ignoring your discomfort. This is immature passive aggressive behavior designed to give him the illusion that he is in control. He is not acting out normal desire for his wife; he is wielding power over you. It's a mindset similar to a man who forces sex on an unwilling woman. And the childish sexual talk is a total turn off for most women.

It sounds like you need to set some very strong boundaries with him. He should never, EVER sneak up behind you and grab you. To make you feel the need to constantly be on your guard in your own home is completely unacceptable.

I too hope that you and your husband get some counseling. He needs to learn respect and boundaries and treat you with honor. As it is, he is treating you like a toy.
 
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Help :(?

I am not only just feeling annoyed, but I really see my husband as a pest and he thinks he's "a normal healthy man" for being so perverted---I doesn't ever question anything he ever does beyond worldly standards, and he makes excuses for this.


To sum him up: I am grossed out paranoid about being touched or sneaked up on by predators in my home sometimes.....all because my husband refuses to act civil and he grabs me whenever he's got a chance. I cannot put my guard down to just relax unless he's left for work.

You also can't ask a simple question without it going to a sexual innuendo. It's so annoying!!!! like I feel his brain operates only to have sex some days and has no other purpose but to breed.

Because of both his only preferring things that are "anti-cancer" and his sexual perverted behaviour, I don't feel he has any real personality or a higher sense of life purpose at all. He thinks because I am his wife, anything he does isn't considered inappropriate, he says this, no matter what he says or does "it's perfectly normal between husband and wife"---in a creepy tone of voice that makes me so disgusted I want to back up and run the hay away.

I feel the yucks just thinking about it......and this is def' gas lighting! how would he know what is "normal"? he just is such a creep some days. He even used my telephoto camera lens one day to peek into the condo windows of other apartments because a lot of stupid woman don't close their blinds----but him purposefully looking is def' sinful and perved behaviour, it takes actual effort to peer into a window across the street. It is no way an "accident" to see anything.

Then he tries to lie to me and speak on my behalf at once" you used to like it!"
NO, I NEVER liked it! He's taking away my sense of consent and expects me to "want" him? YUCK. "But I buy groceries"...so what? you'd be buying the groceries even if you were single, for goodness sakes, and you don't even know how to cook your so called "anti-cancer food, you make ME do it for you and get angry when it doesn't meet your "standards". I still buy my own food that he won't "approve of for being healthy anti-cancer"....such as "Radiation fish" or "unhealthy processed" salad dressings.

He's also a control freak and he's always up to something to make sure hes "in control", either his tone of voice, or "don't worry, I got this" he'll say, as he does something for weird reasons......he does the exact opposite of what people want and says ""trust me" or "don't worry". He's even said that to a boss once in a text without telling them what he was doing, and he wonders why he got fired? instead, he pulled the "they are racist" card instead of "maybe I was being too cocky and full of myself"

And he didn't act like this before you got married?
 
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Help :(?

I am not only just feeling annoyed, but I really see my husband as a pest and he thinks he's "a normal healthy man" for being so perverted---I doesn't ever question anything he ever does beyond worldly standards, and he makes excuses for this.


To sum him up: I am grossed out paranoid about being touched or sneaked up on by predators in my home sometimes.....all because my husband refuses to act civil and he grabs me whenever he's got a chance. I cannot put my guard down to just relax unless he's left for work.

You also can't ask a simple question without it going to a sexual innuendo. It's so annoying!!!! like I feel his brain operates only to have sex some days and has no other purpose but to breed.

Because of both his only preferring things that are "anti-cancer" and his sexual perverted behaviour, I don't feel he has any real personality or a higher sense of life purpose at all. He thinks because I am his wife, anything he does isn't considered inappropriate, he says this, no matter what he says or does "it's perfectly normal between husband and wife"---in a creepy tone of voice that makes me so disgusted I want to back up and run the hay away.

I feel the yucks just thinking about it......and this is def' gas lighting! how would he know what is "normal"? he just is such a creep some days. He even used my telephoto camera lens one day to peek into the condo windows of other apartments because a lot of stupid woman don't close their blinds----but him purposefully looking is def' sinful and perved behaviour, it takes actual effort to peer into a window across the street. It is no way an "accident" to see anything.

Then he tries to lie to me and speak on my behalf at once" you used to like it!"
NO, I NEVER liked it! He's taking away my sense of consent and expects me to "want" him? YUCK. "But I buy groceries"...so what? you'd be buying the groceries even if you were single, for goodness sakes, and you don't even know how to cook your so called "anti-cancer food, you make ME do it for you and get angry when it doesn't meet your "standards". I still buy my own food that he won't "approve of for being healthy anti-cancer"....such as "Radiation fish" or "unhealthy processed" salad dressings.

He's also a control freak and he's always up to something to make sure hes "in control", either his tone of voice, or "don't worry, I got this" he'll say, as he does something for weird reasons......he does the exact opposite of what people want and says ""trust me" or "don't worry". He's even said that to a boss once in a text without telling them what he was doing, and he wonders why he got fired? instead, he pulled the "they are racist" card instead of "maybe I was being too cocky and full of myself"
Most men are very feral and perverted.

I am a male myself and they shock me.

I even shock myself sometimes.

Not sure whether the fundamental nature of the male can be altered, I struggle everyday with my own nature.
 
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Behaviors like playfully sneaking up on each other, grabbing each other, and sexual innuendo can be perfectly normal and healthy, provided both partners are on the same page and both heartily consent to such. Its not perversion by any means.

However, when consent is not present, or even if it is, and partner is going with the flow out of a sense of obligation rather than from the heart, that's not cool at all. The comment about you used to like it suggests you might not have communicated your feelings on this very well, and/or he is probably not very perceptive... and lots of young guys can be real dolts, but this is why communications are so mission critical. Even more so, with the amount of resentment I see in your post, I'd say its nearly at, or even over the line of emotional / sexual abuse.

You need to seek counseling on this immediately. Resentment built to this level is not an easy thing to fix, but if both parties are willing, it's still possible. If you allow it to continue to build... the probability of ever fixing it gets less and less, until you divorce, or one or both of you end up in the hospital and/or dead should it change into physical abuse.

Peering in other folks windows... yep, that's perverted.

Gas lighting, easily morphs into emotional abuse if it isn't at that stage already.

Groceries / cooking duties etc are typical issues for newly married couples. If you communicate well, this is a non-issue as the two of you will figure out how to make it work for your given situation. If you aren't communicating well, and it escalates and resentment builds, that' a warning sign that unless its addressed, it can easily become a huge stumbling block which will tear your marriage apart.
 
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Are you praying for your husband or just hating on him? It's pretty hard to do both (unless, of course, your praying for something bad to happen to him...). How are you learning to be more like Jesus in all that's going on between you and your husband? Does your husband see Jesus in you, do you think, or just a woman who despises him? Do you challenge your husband on a spiritual level? Do you put his behaviour in a spiritual context as often as possible? When he's "acting the perv," do you, in love, remind him that he's not honoring Christ and that he will give an account one day to God for his actions? Or do you just think about yourself and how much your husband disgusts you? The two of you definitely need the help of your pastor or a biblical marriage counselor. Is there some spiritually-mature older man who could come alongside your husband and encourage him in the faith and challenge him spiritually? Really, though, God is the only one who can change your husband's heart. So, you need to be praying often that He will. You ought also to be praying that God would change your heart, too. Neither of you is anywhere near perfect, right?
 
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Help :(?

I am not only just feeling annoyed, but I really see my husband as a pest and he thinks he's "a normal healthy man" for being so perverted---I doesn't ever question anything he ever does beyond worldly standards, and he makes excuses for this.


To sum him up: I am grossed out paranoid about being touched or sneaked up on by predators in my home sometimes.....all because my husband refuses to act civil and he grabs me whenever he's got a chance. I cannot put my guard down to just relax unless he's left for work.

You also can't ask a simple question without it going to a sexual innuendo. It's so annoying!!!! like I feel his brain operates only to have sex some days and has no other purpose but to breed.

Because of both his only preferring things that are "anti-cancer" and his sexual perverted behaviour, I don't feel he has any real personality or a higher sense of life purpose at all. He thinks because I am his wife, anything he does isn't considered inappropriate, he says this, no matter what he says or does "it's perfectly normal between husband and wife"---in a creepy tone of voice that makes me so disgusted I want to back up and run the hay away.

I feel the yucks just thinking about it......and this is def' gas lighting! how would he know what is "normal"? he just is such a creep some days. He even used my telephoto camera lens one day to peek into the condo windows of other apartments because a lot of stupid woman don't close their blinds----but him purposefully looking is def' sinful and perved behaviour, it takes actual effort to peer into a window across the street. It is no way an "accident" to see anything.

Then he tries to lie to me and speak on my behalf at once" you used to like it!"
NO, I NEVER liked it! He's taking away my sense of consent and expects me to "want" him? YUCK. "But I buy groceries"...so what? you'd be buying the groceries even if you were single, for goodness sakes, and you don't even know how to cook your so called "anti-cancer food, you make ME do it for you and get angry when it doesn't meet your "standards". I still buy my own food that he won't "approve of for being healthy anti-cancer"....such as "Radiation fish" or "unhealthy processed" salad dressings.

He's also a control freak and he's always up to something to make sure hes "in control", either his tone of voice, or "don't worry, I got this" he'll say, as he does something for weird reasons......he does the exact opposite of what people want and says ""trust me" or "don't worry". He's even said that to a boss once in a text without telling them what he was doing, and he wonders why he got fired? instead, he pulled the "they are racist" card instead of "maybe I was being too cocky and full of myself"
I am sorry for you. Peering in windows is a sign even worse things may be going on. Is there a pastor who you trust who you can talk to?
Pray constantly; beg God for his help, and his will in these matters, and bind up satan.
 
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Help :(?

I am not only just feeling annoyed, but I really see my husband as a pest and he thinks he's "a normal healthy man" for being so perverted---I doesn't ever question anything he ever does beyond worldly standards, and he makes excuses for this.


To sum him up: I am grossed out paranoid about being touched or sneaked up on by predators in my home sometimes.....all because my husband refuses to act civil and he grabs me whenever he's got a chance. I cannot put my guard down to just relax unless he's left for work.

You also can't ask a simple question without it going to a sexual innuendo. It's so annoying!!!! like I feel his brain operates only to have sex some days and has no other purpose but to breed.

Because of both his only preferring things that are "anti-cancer" and his sexual perverted behaviour, I don't feel he has any real personality or a higher sense of life purpose at all. He thinks because I am his wife, anything he does isn't considered inappropriate, he says this, no matter what he says or does "it's perfectly normal between husband and wife"---in a creepy tone of voice that makes me so disgusted I want to back up and run the hay away.

I feel the yucks just thinking about it......and this is def' gas lighting! how would he know what is "normal"? he just is such a creep some days. He even used my telephoto camera lens one day to peek into the condo windows of other apartments because a lot of stupid woman don't close their blinds----but him purposefully looking is def' sinful and perved behaviour, it takes actual effort to peer into a window across the street. It is no way an "accident" to see anything.

Then he tries to lie to me and speak on my behalf at once" you used to like it!"
NO, I NEVER liked it! He's taking away my sense of consent and expects me to "want" him? YUCK. "But I buy groceries"...so what? you'd be buying the groceries even if you were single, for goodness sakes, and you don't even know how to cook your so called "anti-cancer food, you make ME do it for you and get angry when it doesn't meet your "standards". I still buy my own food that he won't "approve of for being healthy anti-cancer"....such as "Radiation fish" or "unhealthy processed" salad dressings.

He's also a control freak and he's always up to something to make sure hes "in control", either his tone of voice, or "don't worry, I got this" he'll say, as he does something for weird reasons......he does the exact opposite of what people want and says ""trust me" or "don't worry". He's even said that to a boss once in a text without telling them what he was doing, and he wonders why he got fired? instead, he pulled the "they are racist" card instead of "maybe I was being too cocky and full of myself"
You need to voice all of this with him. Don't hold it in you anymore because it will only lead to destruction. Just have a sit down with him and tell him how you feel. Don't be angry with him, but speak the truth of your heart. That's the first step.
 
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This man seems hypersexual. Sex addiction maybe? If he's sexually frustrated because of infrequency, well... his actions certainly aren't helping you feel comfortable giving yourself to him. So, his actions are only contributing to a cycle of bad behavior, rebuke, and rejection.

Peeping on other women? He's not a 13 year old boy any more. Besides, it's illegal. If caught, he could be charged and listed as a sexual predator.

The gas lighting is psychological abuse, he might be totally clueless on this. Many men are. His grabbing you and speaking sexually when you've requested he not is a sign of a lack of both respect and boundaries.

Could he be in a midlife crisis? If so, he needs to better manage his impulses and behaviors. He needs to reassess himself and determine to establish a new identity of sorts, kind of like redefining who you are and how you choose to behave. Counseling can really help with this. If he has no vision for change, counseling can frustrate him. If he doesn't see the error of his ways, he'll just feel like folks want to change him. He must want to change and be able to at least envision the man he desires to be. Then counseling can do wonders.

If he refuses counseling, I'd recommend you shake things up. Separate for a while. You might not desire to divorce him, and that's okay. However, sometimes a little distance, even if you're married, can wake a person up to the error of their ways. Don't tell him you're not divorcing. Just make space. Go to your mom's for a week or two. Don't tell him when you plan on returning. Leave him clueless. And tell him to get help.
 
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