Asking questions about God

aiki · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
If we have to have ask questions about God, then I guess that means we don't really know him.

??? Can one know everything about the infinite God of All? I don't see how... There will always be more to learn about Him, more questions to ask about His awesome, limitless power, wisdom and nature. These questions don't mean God is a stranger to us, however.

Jen35 said:
Who asks questions about someone they know?

I ask my wife questions about herself all the time. "How was your day?" "How are you feeling?" "What do you think about x, y, or z?" "Did you enjoy thus-and-so?" And so on. It doesn't follow that because I know my wife I ought not to ask questions about her. There's never an end to the things I can know about my wife. How much more true is this when it comes to God?!

Jen35 said:
Why are we asking questions here? Doesn't the holy spirit guide us into all truth and knowledge of him?

He does. But into the truth and knowledge of God revealed in Scripture. (See 2 Timothy 3:16-17) Sometimes, what one reads in Scripture is not immediately clear or sensible. And so, one may have questions. This isn't a bad thing; it's just the natural consequence of being a thinking person.

Jen35 said:
I wonder if the holy spirit is being ignored here or something? Or maybe some people don't know the spirit either.

??? The mere presence of questions about God doesn't mean the Holy Spirit is being ignored. People come to understand God and His truth progressively - just we come to know each other progressively. Why, then, does asking questions about God mean the Spirit is a stranger?

Jen35 said:
Jesus said his sheep know his voice cause they are familiar with it, you know why? Cause they know him and are famaliar with his ways from being one and in the presence of him through his spirit, the holy spirit, the spirit of God.

And how do you even know there is such a thing as the Holy Spirit and that He will lead you into all truth about God? How do you know what Jesus said about his sheep? Because the Bible tells you so. Well, the Bible has a lot of stuff in it. No one can know and understand it all overnight. Not even someone who has the Spirit helping them. A Christian comes to know God and His truth over time, in part through asking questions about both things and by searching through the Bible, under the supervision of the Spirit, for answers.

Jen35 said:
If we have to question something about God, we must don't know him.

This is a giant non sequitur. See above.

Jen35 said:
Do people truly know God or just the idea, the cliches of him and the stuff they hear about him from others?

I don't know. What about you?

Sam91 · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
And stop asking questions about him on a forum unless the son is to be sought on here.

I think there is good reason to ask questions on here. Some people hear things uttered by others and misunderstand them. Other Christians can explain these.

They may read something in the Bible which contradicts what they understand to be the case. Other Christians can correct this and God can use other Christians to do this.

In reading these questions the Holy Spirit can teach a reader, like God did to me last night. Hence the reason I enjoyed reading the thread. Not because I learned anything directly but the Holy Spirit revealed understanding of something related to it. I was blessed too by reading some scriptures at one point.

Also, have you noticed that in explaining something to someone else that you feel that you were given the words to say? Then in reading thd advice you gave that the answer was actually something you, yourself needed to hear. This has happened to me many a time leading me to be drawn closer to the Lord.

While I am blessed with my church family in my community, other people do not have that. Scripture tells us, as someone else reminded us, to speak scripture, songs and to teach each other.

Have you noticed that when you go to group Bible studies that God imparts knowledge differently to each of our hearts? Then in coming together we gain a deeper understanding and the Spirit touches us while others expound on their answers? Life backs it up afterwards, and the Lord by makes the scripture pop out in succession while He teaches us it? He guides us everyday using the Scripture, circumstances and others to do this. Some of it we are largely unaware of, but I've found the biggest growth is when you do something because of what we have learned. For example, it is in loving an enemy (by physically being kind) that the understanding of it happens. It's when the head knowledge becomes part of who you are.

However, it is amazing how soon we forget and the (incidental) reminding from others (whether by a situation cropping up, or someone asking a question, or rereading the scripture) puts it back to to the forefront then God works what He has taught us deeper into who we are, molding us. Like roots growing deeper, it gets more entrenched. It is amazing how I think I've learned something, or that I wouldn't make the same mistake again that I end up doing it or forgetting.

I guess this is why we are told to remind ourselves and others of the gospel and why we need to continually submit and resubmit to the Lord. I doubt very much that it is onlh the person who asks a question who learns something but also the person answering it. There is a Bible verse about a threestring rope I think..

Ecclesiastes 4:12
And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

(Sorry... this was supposed to be about five lines long and grew and grew)

Sam91 · May 29, 2019

Oooo

Here are some interesting related scriptures when you scroll past the article.

You see both sides of the equation.

SCRIPTURES Dealing With Seeking the Counsel of Others - Marriage Missions International

Also interesting: 16 Bible verses about Learning From Other People

This was interesting too:
3 Ways God Teaches Lessons To His People

It's given plenty to consider but what strikes me is how important fellowship is, both with God and our brothers and sisters, in building us up in our faith and understanding of Him.

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

Sam91 said:
Oooo Here are some interesting related scriptures when you scroll past the article.

You see both sides of the equation.

SCRIPTURES Dealing With Seeking the Counsel of Others - Marriage Missions International

Also interesting: 16 Bible verses about Learning From Other People

Thank you..I will read them later..I'm tired now

Robin Mauro · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
If we have to have ask questions about God, then I guess that means we don't really know him. Who asks questions about someone they know? If you know someone, wouldn't you know everything about them? Why are we asking questions here? Doesn't the holy spirit guide us into all truth and knowledge of him? I wonder if the holy spirit is being ignored here or something? Or maybe some people don't know the spirit either. What's going on? Jesus said his sheep know his voice cause they are familiar with it, you know why? Cause they know him and are famaliar with his ways from being one and in the presence of him through his spirit, the holy spirit, the spirit of God. If we have to question something about God, we must don't know him. Do people truly know God or just the idea, the cliches of him and the stuff they hear about him from others?

God is the only one who knows everything and everyone. Even people who have been married a lifetime do not know everything about each other.
"...though now we see through a foggy glass..."

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

Sam91 said:
I think there is good reason to ask questions on here. Some people hear things uttered by others and misunderstand them. Other Christians can explain these.

They may read something in the Bible which contradicts what they understand to be the case. Other Christians can correct this and God can use other Christians to do this.

In reading these questions the Holy Spirit can teach a reader, like God did to me last night. Hence the reason I enjoyed reading the thread. Not because I learned anything directly but the Holy Spirit revealed understanding of something related to it. I was blessed too by reading some scriptures at one point.

Also, have you noticed that in explaining something to someone else that you feel that you were given the words to say? Then in reading thd advice you gave that the answer was actually something you, yourself needed to hear. This has happened to me many a time leading me to be drawn closer to the Lord.

While I am blessed with my church family in my community, other people do not have that. Scripture tells us, as someone else reminded us, to speak scripture, songs and to teach each other.

Have you noticed that when you go to group Bible studies that God imparts knowledge differently to each of our hearts? Then in coming together we gain a deeper understanding and the Spirit touches us while others expound on their answers? Life backs it up afterwards, and the Lord by makes the scripture pop out in succession while He teaches us it? He guides us everyday using the Scripture, circumstances and others to do this. Some of it we are largely unaware of, but I've found the biggest growth is when you do something because of what we have learned. For example, it is in loving an enemy (by physically being kind) that the understanding of it happens. It's when the head knowledge becomes part of who you are.

However, it is amazing how soon we forget and the (incidental) reminding from others (whether by a situation cropping up, or someone asking a question, or rereading the scripture) puts it back to to the forefront then God works what He has taught us deeper into who we are, molding us. Like roots growing deeper, it gets more entrenched. It is amazing how I think I've learned something, or that I wouldn't make the same mistake again that I end up doing it or forgetting.

I guess this is why we are told to remind ourselves and others of the gospel and why we need to continually submit and resubmit to the Lord. I doubt very much that it is onlh the person who asks a question who learns something but also the person answering it. There is a Bible verse about a threestring rope I think..

Ecclesiastes 4:12
And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.

(Sorry... this was supposed to be about five lines long and grew and grew)

I understand. I believe Jesus said where two or more or gathered in his name he is in the midst of them.

Robin Mauro · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
How am I hindering people's relationships with God?

By implying human beings can and should know everything about God.

Robin Mauro · May 29, 2019

Robin Mauro said:
By implying human beings can and should know everything about God.

No, asserting; not implying

Sam91 · May 29, 2019

Robin Mauro said:
By implying human beings can and should know everything about God.

Not necessarily. Romans 8:28.

You see in asking this she is asking a question other people may secretly be labouring with. Then in reading other people's answers that individual can be reassured and strengthened.

ChristianGirl_96 · May 29, 2019

Many people think God can answer every single question. This is not the case. Our relationship with the Holy Spirit is more important than questions that we cannot answer. Interesting discussion topic.

His student · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
I am done talking, it's getting tiring.

Just a thought sister - not meaning to flame you.

But perhaps if you listened more and talked less (even if you disagree with many of the ideas you are hearing) you wouldn't get quite so tired.

You might even gain some knowledge along the way that others have learned from the Holy Spirit and you haven't been taught yet. Of course you can for sure reject that which doesn't fit with good theology as well you should.

But I've noticed here that you asked a question in the OP and getting close to half the posts on the thread now are from you.

As a matter of fact - you even give several of your own opinions in the OP itself while supposedly positing a question for others here.

You also seem to at least give us the idea that the Holy Spirit is not only able to teach you all you need to know - but He will. Makes me wonder why you ask questions of others in the first place.

I'm just saying that there may be at least a few things you could learn in the forum. But it will require that you listen a little to people in the forum.

Please try not to take too much offense when considering this post.

Sam91 · May 29, 2019

His student said:
Just a thought sister - not meaning to flame you.

But perhaps if you listened more and talked less (even if you disagree with many of the ideas you are hearing) you wouldn't get quite so tired.

You might even gain some knowledge along the way that others have learned from the Holy Spirit and you haven't been taught yet. Of course you can for sure reject that which doesn't fit with good theology as well you should.

But I've noticed here that you asked a question in the OP and getting close to half the posts on the thread now are from you.

As a matter of fact - you even give your opinions in the OP itself while supposedly positing a question for others here.

There is sometimes a sense of responsibility that some of us feel to address people who reply to a thread we create. I assume some of the replying is because of that which I empathise with. (It's why I rarely start threads.)

Greg Merrill · May 29, 2019

First thing that comes to mind is Deuteronomy 29:29. God is infinite, omniscient. To think one knows all about Him would be underestimating Him.

His student · May 29, 2019

Sam91 said:
There is sometimes a sense of responsibility that some of us feel to address people who reply to a thread we create. I assume some of the replying is because of that which I empathise with. (It's why I rarely start threads.)

I agree completely.

I was just saying that it doesn't really seem like she's in search of answers so much as lecturing others.

I could be wrong. But that's the impression I got (and I've read the entire thread before saying this).

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

aiki said:
??? Can one know everything about the infinite God of All? I don't see how... There will always be more to learn about Him, more questions to ask about His awesome, limitless power, wisdom and nature. These questions don't mean God is a stranger to us, however.

I ask my wife questions about herself all the time. "How was your day?" "How are you feeling?" "What do you think about x, y, or z?" "Did you enjoy thus-and-so?" And so on. It doesn't follow that because I know my wife I ought not to ask questions about her. There's never an end to the things I can know about my wife. How much more true is this when it comes to God?!

He does. But into the truth and knowledge of God revealed in Scripture. (See 2 Timothy 3:16-17) Sometimes, what one reads in Scripture is not immediately clear or sensible. And so, one may have questions. This isn't a bad thing; it's just the natural consequence of being a thinking person.

??? The mere presence of questions about God doesn't mean the Holy Spirit is being ignored. People come to understand God and His truth progressively - just we come to know each other progressively. Why, then, does asking questions about God mean the Spirit is a stranger?

Gee, I don't know..lol you tell me,why does it mean that? Just like why some people think Jesus is God the father? I
truly believe some people think they can reach God's throne without consulting Jesus through the holy spirit first and have a game of 20 questions. That's how we connect and communicate with Jesus, through the holy spirit, you sure can not have access to Jesus without ever being born again and accepting his invitation first. The holy spirit is real and we all need it to have any part in God's family and God himself. How else can we connect with him? There's no other way through the skyline or this earthly magnitude. This is not a thing where we use two paper cups and a string to communicate with Jesus. We need the holy Spirit to have any part of him. And yes I truly believe the holy spirit has become a stranger to most of some which say they have. And that they get these strange feelings , like feeling warmth on their chest and stuff when very well it could be just some heartburn developing from gas or something. Jk ha. And then everyone starts to believe they have the holy spirit also because they get the same effects all we humans do after a long night of binge eating. The spirit is just a supernatural way to get insight and guidance from Jesus, to connect with him and we feel his spirit inside of us. Jesus is the living water so of course having the holy spirit will have a powerful impact on you. That water isn't ordinary water. It's the living water poured out from him and made him who he was.

marineimaging · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
If we have to have ask questions about God, then I guess that means we don't really know him. Who asks questions about someone they know? If you know someone, wouldn't you know everything about them? Why are we asking questions here? Doesn't the holy spirit guide us into all truth and knowledge of him? I wonder if the holy spirit is being ignored here or something? Or maybe some people don't know the spirit either. What's going on? Jesus said his sheep know his voice cause they are familiar with it, you know why? Cause they know him and are famaliar with his ways from being one and in the presence of him through his spirit, the holy spirit, the spirit of God. If we have to question something about God, we must don't know him. Do people truly know God or just the idea, the cliches of him and the stuff they hear about him from others?

Every person has a different calling according to the Holy Spirit. Some will hear and ask, "What does that mean?" We are all on a path of understanding and this forum has become a way to ask question that previously went unasked and unanswered. Every generation is in a period of growth and from that comes questions. Even those walking with Jesus had to ask questions and they were walking in the presence of God himself. Why didn't God just turn around and zap them with all of the answers to every question in the universe? On another point, why did you have to ask why we have to ask if we know and He knows us? Questions are the spirit of life to those of us who seek the truth. I pray I never stop asking questions.

PoppyB · May 29, 2019

Jen35 said:
If we have to have ask questions about God, then I guess that means we don't really know him. Who asks questions about someone they know? If you know someone, wouldn't you know everything about them? Why are we asking questions here? Doesn't the holy spirit guide us into all truth and knowledge of him? I wonder if the holy spirit is being ignored here or something? Or maybe some people don't know the spirit either. What's going on? Jesus said his sheep know his voice cause they are familiar with it, you know why? Cause they know him and are famaliar with his ways from being one and in the presence of him through his spirit, the holy spirit, the spirit of God. If we have to question something about God, we must don't know him. Do people truly know God or just the idea, the cliches of him and the stuff they hear about him from others?

I think if you are a new Christian then it is good to ask questions about God so that can get to know him. It takes a while for a new human baby to get to know its father and it's the same with brand new born again believers. Asking questions is a healthy sign of commitment and a desire to get to the truth of who God is. Don't knock it.

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

His student said:
Just a thought sister - not meaning to flame you.

But perhaps if you listened more and talked less (even if you disagree with many of the ideas you are hearing) you wouldn't get quite so tired.

You might even gain some knowledge along the way that others have learned from the Holy Spirit and you haven't been taught yet. Of course you can for sure reject that which doesn't fit with good theology as well you should.

But I've noticed here that you asked a question in the OP and getting close to half the posts on the thread now are from you.

As a matter of fact - you even give several of your own opinions in the OP itself while supposedly positing a question for others here.

You also seem to at least give us the idea that the Holy Spirit is not only able to teach you all you need to know - but He will. Makes me wonder why you ask questions of others in the first place.

I'm just saying that there may be at least a few things you could learn in the forum. But it will require that you listen a little to people in the forum.

Please try not to take too much offense when considering this post.

Because it all just seems like cliches and natural responses to me. Nothing I can't hear or get from the TBN station.

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

PoppyB said:
I think if you are a new Christian then it is good to ask questions about God so that can get to know him. It takes a while for a new human baby to get to know its father and it's the same with brand new born again believers. Asking questions is a healthy sign of commitment and a desire to get to the truth of who God is. Don't knock it.

Does a human baby go to strangers to know thier biological father? Without the spirit, you won't have no desire to do anything..even with the spirit some people don't get the desire so how in the heck does one get a desire without it

Jen35 · May 29, 2019

I don't think Jesus grew up going around asking people about God, he did however say he was in his fathers house about his business..

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