Is 1 Thes 4:17 the same event as Rev 1:7 and Matt 24:27?

friend of said:

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the same event as Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:27?

And would this indicate that there will be no rapture, only a second coming and judgement? Discuss.

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Christ comes back twice.
Once in the clouds and a second time riding a white horse.

friend of said:

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the same event as Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:27?

And would this indicate that there will be no rapture, only a second coming and judgement? Discuss.

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Hi friend of,

Two different purposes there.

1. For the Body of Christ whom He has brought to maturity in Himself. (Eph. 4:13)
2. To deliver Israel and bring judgment upon the rebellious nations.

Marilyn.

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No they aren't. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is the resurrection. Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:27 refer to Christ coming in judgement of Jerusalem.

friend of said:

Is 1 Thessalonians 4:17 the same event as Revelation 1:7 and Matthew 24:27?

And would this indicate that there will be no rapture, only a second coming and judgement? Discuss.

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Paul sums it up here (first resurrection). There are two resurrections. The first for the saved, the second for the condemned (happens later).

1 Thessalonians 4

The Return of the Lord

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Revelation 20

5The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete (2nd resurrection). This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

No special "rapture".