God the Son in other worlds and dealing with their sin...?

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The Bible does not talk about how Christ will redeem... "worlds" (plural) and how all of them will live on the New Earth. Nor does it say if these other worlds will be condemned at the judgment, either. This is merely the influence of Science Fiction. The Bible tells us not to love the things of this world (See: 1 John 2:15-17). Also, those who have encounters with aliens sometimes smell brimstone, just as those people who have ghost encounters sometimes smell brimstone. Brimstone is associated with hell in the Bible. That is just one coincidence. Another coincidence is that whenever somebody gets involved in the occult, they are more likely to have alien encounters or alien abductions. Another coincidence is that these aliens or UFO saucer phenomenon can be cast out in the name of Jesus Christ.

I remember one time, I watched a video by a Pastor who referred to how the word "owl" can sometimes refer to demons in the Bible. The Pastor said that the shape and color of the eyes of owls matches up with the shape and color of the eyes of the ever popular grey alien that people see when they have alien encounters (i.e. black almond shaped eyes). At the time, I didn't think much of it. But then months later, I seen a trailer for a movie called "The 4th Kind" and it was a movie about alien encounters. What was disturbing is that they showed owls in the trailer with them morphing into these grey aliens. In the trailer, it looked like these people were being possessed, too. Very disturbing movie trailer.

I used to be a huge fan of Star Trek, and Science Fiction. I collected the five major series of Star Trek (at the time) on DVD from the Original Series to Enterprise (and knew many of the episodes by name). I even went to Star Trek Experience in Las Vegas (When it existed) several times, and I had been to one Star Trek convention. I even played the role playing game with my ole buddies. But after seeing the many sinful things being pushed within movies these days, I put away general sinful secular movie watching, and I now only watch Christian movies, educational documentaries, and a few occasional wholesome good family value romance films (to watch with my wife).

Another problem I had with Star Trek is that it promoted Atheism and Evolution.
Granted, there were a few episodes and exceptions to this, but they were not common (Unless you consider DS9's storyline on the alien like gods being like of the Bible - of which I do not agree with). The creator of Star Trek (Gene Roddenberry), was strongly against Christianity and he even insulted God and the Bible.

Most of the time, people love to fantasize about aliens out of their love for Science Fiction. But most of your Science Fiction pushes sinful things within them. So my encouragement to you is get in the Bible and ask God to show you the truth on this, and He will. I know for a fact that aliens are a part of one of the many demonic deceptions in these last days. So my encouragement to you, don't fall for it. Get in the Bible more and put away your either your love for Science Fiction or your love for the fascination of UFO encounters.

People ask, then why did God create the universe so big if there is no life on it?

Because God is big and He does things big and magnificent.
For God has even named all the stars.

I hope this helps and may God bless you today.
There is also Catholic Dr Charles Hall and former atheist Howard Storm. Howard saw displayed before him many gradually less human like intelligent ETs, until he was disgusted and asked not to see. He also found that we were not high up there matching their intellects. Both wrote books. I can believe there are fake aliens which are really demonic entities.
 
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Ah, yes, that's the lilith. Now there's a rabbit hole with no bottom. Lots of medieval and Babylonian Jewish lore surround that one.

I believe that the word "owls" sometimes refers to idols in the Bible.

"The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest." (Isaiah 34:14) (KJV).

"And there shall the beasts of the desert meet with the jackals, and the wild goat shall cry to his fellow; the lilith also shall settle there, and find for herself a place of rest." (Isaiah 34:14) (Darby).

Granted, The Darby Translation is a little off here. But this translation is on the right track that this was an idol (or false god) that men worshiped during that time.

Here is a quote from an article:

"Much of what we know about satyrs in ancient mythology comes from Greek and Roman sources. Yet, there seems to be some connection between the idea of שׂעיר (sa‘iyr) in the ancient Middle East and the satyr in western mythology. Some have even suggested a linguistic connection between the terms. In any case, the Hebrew term שׂעיר (sa‘iyr) in these four verses seems to refer to mythological creatures from Canaanite religion, false idols that the people worshipped instead of Yahweh."

Source:
Demons in the Old Testament
(Note: I agree with this portion that the author wrote, and I do not necessarily agree exactly with the rest of his article or conclusions n this matter).

I believe the "satyr" was a reference to a famous idol of a goat demon, and the owls were also idols (or false gods), as well. They are the false representations created by men and demonic influence. The idols of the goat man, and idols of owls would lay desolate in this barren wasteland to be as nothing (as the idols themselves are nothing). The idea that real animals can find a place of rest there is illogical. Animals do not find true rest in a barren wasteland. So these are idols. False gods. The "satyr" and the owl are idols are just as empty as the land is. The false statue or idol of the "screech owl" is to find it's rest (death) there in that wasteland.
 
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There is also Catholic Dr Charles Hall and former atheist Howard Storm. Howard saw displayed before him many gradually less human like intelligent ETs, until he was disgusted and asked not to see. He also found that we were not high up there matching their intellects. Both wrote books. I can believe there are fake aliens which are really demonic entities.

I believe this is part of the deception. This is obviously an example of fallen angels attempting to deceive two different men with the same false vision.
 
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I believe this is part of the deception. This is obviously an example of fallen angels attempting to deceive two different men with the same false vision.
You can contact Howard who is now a pastor and missionary who loves God. Home - Howard Storm

I got his number from his church.

I think Adam's dominion was the Earth. Previously I did a thread here and another ina science forum, and all agree, entropy has never changed. I think death on Earth was going to end with Adam refusing to sin, which did not happen. Lions have teeth for killing. Decay in the universe is steady, stars didn't start exploding when Adam sinned.
 
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You can contact Howard who is now a pastor and missionary who loves God. Home - Howard Storm

I got his number from his church.

I think Adam's dominion was the Earth. Previously I did a thread here and another ina science forum, and all agree, entropy has never changed. I think death on Earth was going to end with Adam refusing to sin, which did not happen. Lions have teeth for killing. Decay in the universe is steady, stars didn't start exploding when Adam sinned.

I am sure there are many kind hearted and loving Pastors out there who hold to visions as being on equal authority as the Word of God. That does not mean that the visions they have are true or from God. That does not mean God approves of their acceptance of false visions. He may be correct on other things in the Bible, but if he believes in false visions that he has, it is placing one's trust in visions and not in God's Word alone. I am sure he would not like it if I were to talk to him about it and how it is wrong according to the Bible.
 
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Lions have teeth for killing. Decay in the universe is steady, stars didn't start exploding when Adam sinned.

That's a disconnect. Gorillas and the Hippopotamus both have sharp teeth and yet they are Herbivores. In the Millennium, the wolf (a carnivore) will lay down next to the lamb. Will the teeth of the wolf change to no longer be sharp? I don't think that will be the case. It would kind of defeat the purpose of the wolf being next to the Lamb.
 
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That's a disconnect. Gorillas and the Hippopotamus both have sharp teeth and yet they are Herbivores. In the Millennium, the wolf (a carnivore) will lay down next to the lamb. Will the teeth of the wolf change to no longer be sharp? I don't think that will be the case. It would kind of defeat the purpose of the wolf being next to the Lamb.
That is what I meant by death ending with a sinless Adam.
 
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I am sure there are many kind hearted and loving Pastors out there who hold to visions as being on equal authority as the Word of God. That does not mean that the visions they have are true or from God. That does not mean God approves of their acceptance of false visions. He may be correct on other things in the Bible, but if he believes in false visions that he has, it is placing one's trust in visions and not in God's Word alone. I am sure he would not like it if I were to talk to him about it and how it is wrong according to the Bible.
The word of God does not say, Adam had dominion over the whole universe and that there is no intelligent life on other planets.
 
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The word of God does not say, Adam had dominion over the whole universe and that there is no intelligent life on other planets.

The Bible implies in many other ways that there is no intelligent life on other planets. I will have to find a good Christian article or two to help you on seeing this. For me, the things I mentioned should make you run in the other direction, but you will have to let God talk to you about these things on your own perhaps.
 
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The word of God does not say, Adam had dominion over the whole universe and that there is no intelligent life on other planets.

Rev. Daniel R. Jennings, M.A. on UFO Encounters and Demonic Encounters.
UFOs and the Christian Worldview
Aliens or Demons: What Does The Bible Say? - Alien Resistance

Please take note that I may not agree with everything these authors say on other topics involving the Bible, and nor do I agree with the exact words they use in their presentations of these articles, but I agree with most of the heart of many of their points on this topic.

Note: In the third link the author refers to his favoring Charisma Magazine. I canceled my subscription with that magazine (shortly after signing up) because I do not agree with most of what I have seen in the Modern Day Pentecostal movement.
 
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Satan is then distinguished from the sons, who are saints or creatures in his image and likeness, more importantly likeness. Since angels are sometimes alike men to see. But inside they are servants, not sons. Hebrews 1:5. Though I am not sure, I think the sons of God in Genesis were mortals.

Nope in the OT Bene Elohim which appears only twice are angels! Genesis 6 and Job!
 
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Nope in the OT Bene Elohim which appears only twice are angels! Genesis 6 and Job!
I just checked Genesis 6 and Job 1. And looked at Strong's numbers with Bane Eloheem. Satan does not look like a son of God, one face, arms, legs... Some angels had four faces... Satan no longer looks like a human being, and when he joined the sons in Job 1, it makes a distinction of Satan from them.

Even if innumerable angels appear as God, like people, not all do, and angels inside do not have the full likeness with God for which reason they are servants and never sons. Like the tongue in the body, and brain and a person can speak, the angels like pets cannot relate to God as sons. They don't have the metaphorical tongues. They are relationally unequal. So I quoted Hebrews 1:5.

KJV
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Which angel sits on a throne beside God? Which saints will? The saints will but not angels. We will be their judges.

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1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

And...

1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Bane Eloheem must have had 46 chromosomes to breed with us or at least 44 or 48 to form a mule. But angels of light like Adam, before woman, had both male and female in him. God is both male and female, masculine and feminine love, uncreated, self existent. There is no separate God the Mother.

Sons implies fully masculine, and in God's image and with enough of a similar brain interior to form a working half cast. Like a liger. Although Ligers may not be able to live in the wild.

The creatures that came down had bodies, and fallen angels do not have bodies. Some traditions hold no angels have bodies, as from Corinthians, we have bodies with a history, but angels normally exist outside of time, and have no bodies. If any do, and they fell they may have been destroyed and are no more. Satan no longer has arms or legs for massive crimes, he was punished. Yet he and his followers are sons of God and fathers of tyrants? No.
 
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I just checked Genesis 6 and Job 1. And looked at Strong's numbers with Bane Eloheem. Satan does not look like a son of God, one face, arms, legs... Some angels had four faces... Satan no longer looks like a human being, and when he joined the sons in Job 1, it makes a distinction of Satan from them.

Even if innumerable angels appear as God, like people, not all do, and angels inside do not have the full likeness with God for which reason they are servants and never sons. Like the tongue in the body, and brain and a person can speak, the angels like pets cannot relate to God as sons. They don't have the metaphorical tongues. They are relationally unequal. So I quoted Hebrews 1:5.

KJV
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Which angel sits on a throne beside God? Which saints will? The saints will but not angels. We will be their judges.

KJV
1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

And...

1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Bane Eloheem must have had 46 chromosomes to breed with us or at least 44 or 48 to form a mule. But angels of light like Adam, before woman, had both male and female in him. God is both male and female, masculine and feminine love, uncreated, self existent. There is no separate God the Mother.

Sons implies fully masculine, and in God's image and with enough of a similar brain interior to form a working half cast. Like a liger. Although Ligers may not be able to live in the wild.

The creatures that came down had bodies, and fallen angels do not have bodies. Some traditions hold no angels have bodies, as from Corinthians, we have bodies with a history, but angels normally exist outside of time, and have no bodies. If any do, and they fell they may have been destroyed and are no more. Satan no longer has arms or legs for massive crimes, he was punished. Yet he and his followers are sons of God and fathers of tyrants? No.

Well now you are conflating angels with cherubs and seraphs. While we colloquially call them all angels- biblically they are three different spirit beings.

The distinction between satan and the angels in Job is because He had fallen by then and was no longer a son of God.

But Lucifer (also called Satan) is not an angel or bene elohim- but he was the anointed cherub!

You write:
"Even if innumerable angels appear as God, like people, not all do, and angels inside do not have the full likeness with God for which reason they are servants and never sons. Like the tongue in the body, and brain and a person can speak, the angels like pets cannot relate to God as sons. They don't have the metaphorical tongues. They are relationally unequal. So I quoted Hebrews 1:5."

This is a bunch of gobbledy gook Angels have tongues, they sing and praise God daily! They are very smart creatures. Satan is the fourth most powerful being in the universe and the smartest created thing God made!

You write:

"God is both male and female, masculine and feminine love, uncreated, self existent. There is no separate God the Mother."

Well I will take the words of the inspired writers and Jesus himself when He called God Father and He! You are confusing male and female with the fact that man (including woman) was made trichotomous like God is!

YOu write:

Bane Eloheem must have had 46 chromosomes to breed with us or at least 44 or 48 to form a mule. But angels of light like Adam, before woman, had both male and female in him.

Well if you can catch and kill an angel you can autopsy it and tell us exactly how many chromosomes they have! All I know is that they left heaven in Genesis 6 and had sex with women and created a mutated hybrid race that God destroyed with the flood.

Adam was never an angel but was formed as a man!

you write:
"The creatures that came down had bodies, and fallen angels do not have bodies. Some traditions hold no angels have bodies, as from Corinthians, we have bodies with a history, but angels normally exist outside of time, and have no bodies. If any do, and they fell they may have been destroyed and are no more. Satan no longer has arms or legs for massive crimes, he was punished. Yet he and his followers are sons of God and fathers of tyrants? No."

Well I will take Gods word:
Hebrews 13:2
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Whether they materialize bodies or have bodies they make visible I really don't care! They had bodies and had sex with women.

That is why Jude writes:
Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

As for Satan and his fallen angels cherubs and seraphs! No you are in error! they are still alive and well and wreaking havoc on earth!

Eph. 6:

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
 
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These verses you quote make a differences between creation and us. So I think in context, Paul was writing about creation locally.

Creation on Earth is subject to decay. Creation elsewhere maybe a paradise without decay. Creation elsewhere may be like ours or a horrific failure.

I think Jesus Christ was for the Adamic race and our local dominion.


There are some interesting ideas in this book on this topic:

 
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Well now you are conflating angels with cherubs and seraphs. While we colloquially call them all angels- biblically they are three different spirit beings.

The distinction between satan and the angels in Job is because He had fallen by then and was no longer a son of God.

But Lucifer (also called Satan) is not an angel or bene elohim- but he was the anointed cherub!

You write:
"Even if innumerable angels appear as God, like people, not all do, and angels inside do not have the full likeness with God for which reason they are servants and never sons. Like the tongue in the body, and brain and a person can speak, the angels like pets cannot relate to God as sons. They don't have the metaphorical tongues. They are relationally unequal. So I quoted Hebrews 1:5."

This is a bunch of gobbledy gook Angels have tongues, they sing and praise God daily! They are very smart creatures. Satan is the fourth most powerful being in the universe and the smartest created thing God made!

You write:

"God is both male and female, masculine and feminine love, uncreated, self existent. There is no separate God the Mother."

Well I will take the words of the inspired writers and Jesus himself when He called God Father and He! You are confusing male and female with the fact that man (including woman) was made trichotomous like God is!

YOu write:

Bane Eloheem must have had 46 chromosomes to breed with us or at least 44 or 48 to form a mule. But angels of light like Adam, before woman, had both male and female in him.

Well if you can catch and kill an angel you can autopsy it and tell us exactly how many chromosomes they have! All I know is that they left heaven in Genesis 6 and had sex with women and created a mutated hybrid race that God destroyed with the flood.

Adam was never an angel but was formed as a man!

you write:
"The creatures that came down had bodies, and fallen angels do not have bodies. Some traditions hold no angels have bodies, as from Corinthians, we have bodies with a history, but angels normally exist outside of time, and have no bodies. If any do, and they fell they may have been destroyed and are no more. Satan no longer has arms or legs for massive crimes, he was punished. Yet he and his followers are sons of God and fathers of tyrants? No."

Well I will take Gods word:
Hebrews 13:2
Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Whether they materialize bodies or have bodies they make visible I really don't care! They had bodies and had sex with women.

That is why Jude writes:
Jude 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

As for Satan and his fallen angels cherubs and seraphs! No you are in error! they are still alive and well and wreaking havoc on earth!

Eph. 6:

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
I know angels have tongues but I was only making an metaphor. They do not have the ability to relate to God as sons, but only servants. So I quoted Hebrews and Corinthians, but you do not comment or explain!!?

How is it, or is it Baptist, to make a difference between fallen Lucifer and Satan?

Love is uncreated and self existent, so in God is both masculine and feminine love. In God is both the male and the female, God did not invent femininity. It is part of his image and likeness.

I know Adam was not an angel, and angels may have bodies, they were sometimes entertained. But we don't know.

KJV
1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

Sins of the heart, and thefts are outside the body. In eternity they are washed away, like the spirit can become molten, and dross is cleaned off, the Blood washes sin away, but the body must be covered with the Blood. Atoned for. The Catholics with theology of the body draw the conclusion that angels don't have bodies, they live in eternity, are flames of fire... they may be wrong.

In Job 1 the Bane Eloheem I do not think are angels.
 
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There are some interesting ideas in this book on this topic:

I am a bit sceptical about Rick Joyner Dennis, what is it about his work that has you sure of him? Thanks for this link.
 
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I know angels have tongues but I was only making an metaphor. They do not have the ability to relate to God as sons, but only servants. So I quoted Hebrews and Corinthians, but you do not comment or explain!!?

How is it, or is it Baptist, to make a difference between fallen Lucifer and Satan?

Love is uncreated and self existent, so in God is both masculine and feminine love. In God is both the male and the female, God did not invent femininity. It is part of his image and likeness.

I know Adam was not an angel, and angels may have bodies, they were sometimes entertained. But we don't know.

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1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

Sins of the heart, and thefts are outside the body. In eternity they are washed away, like the spirit can become molten, and dross is cleaned off, the Blood washes sin away, but the body must be covered with the Blood. Atoned for. The Catholics with theology of the body draw the conclusion that angels don't have bodies, they live in eternity, are flames of fire... they may be wrong.

In Job 1 the Bane Eloheem I do not think are angels.


Well it was you who said that Adam was created an angel of light!

Before Lucifer fell He was the anointed Cherub. He did not receive the name Satan until after the fall. they are the same person.

I did not comment on Hebrews and Corinthians simply because i AGREE!

Your concept of male and female in God is wrong!

Image in Genesis 1 is tselem which connotes form not nonmaterial emotions

God is triune and man is triune- God is Father Son and Spirit and man body soul and spirit. That is what is meant by image.

God did not split His emotional quality in half and give part to male and part to female.
 
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Well it was you who said that Adam was created an angel of light!

Before Lucifer fell He was the anointed Cherub. He did not receive the name Satan until after the fall. they are the same person.

I did not comment on Hebrews and Corinthians simply because i AGREE!

Your concept of male and female in God is wrong!

Image in Genesis 1 is tselem which connotes form not nonmaterial emotions

God is triune and man is triune- God is Father Son and Spirit and man body soul and spirit. That is what is meant by image.

God did not split His emotional quality in half and give part to male and part to female.
Sorry for being unclear about Adam. I think Adam was made in God's image, which is an image of love, and his likeness, which is the inner workings, emotions and love, compassion... And I think the eternal qualities of the females, are eternal and are in God. They did not start with Eve.

If you see an angel in God's image and partial likeness, I think you would see a mixture of strong masculine qualities and feminine soft qualities.

The angels are not sons or daughters, not equal royal, and cannot understand God in that relational way. They love. They don't have the mind of Christ, and Christ is not an angel. They don't sit on thrones beside God even if they are princes of principalities.

So I still think angels are not Bane Eloheem, not inside. Not emotionally...
 
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Sorry for being unclear about Adam. I think Adam was made in God's image, which is an image of love, and his likeness, which is the inner workings, emotions and love, compassion... And I think the eternal qualities of the females, are eternal and are in God. They did not start with Eve.

If you see an angel in God's image and partial likeness, I think you would see a mixture of strong masculine qualities and feminine soft qualities.

The angels are not sons or daughters, not equal royal, and cannot understand God in that relational way. They love. They don't have the mind of Christ, and Christ is not an angel. They don't sit on thrones beside God even if they are princes of principalities.

So I still think angels are not Bane Eloheem, not inside. Not emotionally...


Well what we think about he emotional makeup of bene elohim is moot. What the Bible says is what matters.

In Job the bene elohim present themselves in heaven. There were no humans in heaven!

In Genesis 6 the bene elohim came DOWN to the daughters of men! the term angels was not known till later.

soi you are saying that love is qualitatively different? Show me whee God split HIs attribute of love and gave part to man and pat to woman.
 
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