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Can someone go to heaven if they commit suidice?

Can someone go to heaven after suicide?


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One other reason I asked... I'm severely depressed. In the bible, it seems that its better to die than to be a survivor of sexual harassment... and virginity means purity, and that those who arent virgin should be unmarried and stoned... and that includes victims of rape and sexual harassment. Just, it seems like God wants rape victims to suffer, sees them as evil, impure, should be killed, maybe sent to hell, punished for something that happened against them.

I am not aware of this in the Bible and I read my Bible every day. Everyone suffers in one way or another and rape is a HORRIBLE way to suffer. This is why those of us who have had depression cling to God. He loves us! He DOES! Rape victims are NOT evil!
Every single person on ts planet has sinned. But being a victim of an evil person is NOT a sin; that is a lie from Satan! Satan wants us to be depressed. God promises us JOY. Believe God and tell Satan to flee! No, you should not be stoned!

As a Christian, I tell you right now that I love you and God loves you even more. Jesus died for sinners; do you think He didn't die for victims? He wants to comfort you!

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So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
 
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I am not aware of this in the Bible and I read my Bible every day. Everyone suffers in one way or another and rape is a HORRIBLE way to suffer. This is why those of us who have had depression cling to God. He loves us! He DOES! Rape victims are NOT evil!
Every single person on ts planet has sinned. But being a victim of an evil person is NOT a sin; that is a lie from Satan! Satan wants us to be depressed. God promises us JOY. Believe God and tell Satan to flee! No, you should not be stoned!

As a Christian, I tell you right now that I love you and God loves you even more. Jesus died for sinners; do you think He didn't die for victims? He wants to comfort you!

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So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
Then why is it that the bible says that those who are raped should be stoned? How those who are sexually defiled shall not marry? Does rape take away virginity?
 
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Then why is it that the bible says that those who are raped should be stoned? How those who are sexually defiled shall not marry? Does rape take away virginity?

Have you read the New Testament? Who is telling you these lies?
 
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Have you read the New Testament? Who is telling you these lies?
Deuteronomy 22, only a virgin who was betrothed is protected. leviticus 21:13-14, not to marry anyone else except a virgin, and implies sexually defiled are rape victims.

And what does the new testament day, huh? Does it say anything about rape victims being virgin? If it doesnt, then I hope I can go to heaven soon.
 
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So someone who was sexually harassed, feels worthless, tries finding if God sees them as virgin or if the rape didnt take their virginity, find nothing helpful, and now feels absolutely worthless and done with this life, wants to go to heaven to hopefully be happy again and the assault undone. People like that dont count as christian...?
Devian we cannot change the past. But I do know everyday is a new beginning with God. I guess when everything has been said and done It is the Lord that heals the past. They do say that time does eventually heal all things. We do all have a past. I do look to the future ❤️
 
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Devian we cannot change the past. But I do know everyday is a new beginning with God. I guess when everything has been said and done It is the Lord that heals the past. They do say that time does eventually heal all things. We do all have a past. I do look to the future ❤️
Does rape take away virginity? I hope those who were violated are considered virgin. If not... it's better to die.
 
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Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
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Te RAPIST needs to repent! The CHILD MOLESTER needs to repent!

Who is trying to make you depressed? God wants you to get on with your life.

 
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How many Christians are there who weren't virgins when they married? I think the numbers might be shocking.

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22 It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.
23 They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
24 The LORD is my portion, saith my soul; therefore will I hope in him.

I have to get offline. I hope you listen to God instead of Satan. I will be praying for you.
 
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Does rape take away virginity? I hope those who were violated are considered virgin. If not... it's better to die.
Does rape take away virginity all depends when it was done. Not all rape victims are virgins you know. Devin do think apon the book of Revelations that does speak of that most wonderful wedding feast in heaven prepared by our Lord. Maybe that does answer the question some.
 
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Isaiah 1
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Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
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Te RAPIST needs to repent! The CHILD MOLESTER needs to repent!

Who is trying to make you depressed? God wants you to get on with your life.
The ones who are making me depressed are those saying that those who are raped had their virginities stolen, not able to get them back, and impure.

And you are avoiding my question. Can Jesus heal the wound Rape leaves. Can a rape victim who never had sex before remain a virgin?
 
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Does rape take away virginity all depends when it was done. Not all rape victims are virgins you know. Devin do think apon the book of Revelations that does speak of that most wonderful wedding feast in heaven prepared by our Lord. Maybe that does answer the question some.
I read revelation, might again. And I'm talking about if they never had sex before the rape. If a virgin was raped, would he or she keep their virginity? I know I'm getting off topic, bit this has never been truly answered for me, so much debate behind it, no scripture in the new testament mentions the virginity status of a rape victim, and that's what's driving me to depression...
 
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I read revelation, might again. And I'm talking about if they never had sex before the rape. If a virgin was raped, would he or she keep their virginity? I know I'm getting off topic, bit this has never been truly answered for me, so much debate behind it, no scripture in the new testament mentions the virginity status of a rape victim, and that's what's driving me to depression...
Devin the only difference is the magnitude of the crime. But Once two become one and are married there are no more virgins for they have discovered something much better. I think it’s called LOVE.
 
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I read revelation, might again. And I'm talking about if they never had sex before the rape. If a virgin was raped, would he or she keep their virginity? I know I'm getting off topic, bit this has never been truly answered for me, so much debate behind it, no scripture in the new testament mentions the virginity status of a rape victim, and that's what's driving me to depression...
If raped you might not maintain your virginity but you would keep your innocence.
 
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If raped you might not maintain your virginity but you would keep your innocence.
There is no difference between innocence and virginity in the bible though. So they're either defiled or virgin. Which one is it?

Devin the only difference is the magnitude of the crime. But Once two become one and are married there are no more virgins for they have discovered something much better. I think it’s called LOVE.
That... doesnt answer my question. What about those who were raped, not betrothed, not married? Do they maintain their virginity?
 
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There is no difference between innocence and virginity in the bible though. So they're either defiled or virgin. Which one is it?


That... doesnt answer my question. What about those who were raped, not betrothed, not married? Do they maintain their virginity?
Well yes it does answer the question. Because when you love someone your not looking at their past. Your looking at your future together. Devin rape is not the end of all things. Many do excel and get on with their lives As to virginity as I mentioned in my previous reply it only meant to be that way for a time and than is replaced by something much better.
 
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Well yes it does answer the question. Because when you love someone your not looking at their past. Your looking at your future together. Devin rape is not the end of all things. Many do excel and get on with their lives As to virginity as I mentioned in my previous reply it only meant to be that way for a time and than is replaced by something much better.
I dont think it would be better if the rapist did it.

Virginity equals purity in the bible, and losing it you lose everything. So, does rape really take virginity or no?
 
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I dont think it would be better if the rapist did it.

Virginity equals purity in the bible, and losing it you lose everything. So, does rape really take virginity or no?
Rape may take your virginity but not your soul. Devin do you remember the parable of the virgins. Some were prepared and some were not. Their virginity really had nothing to do with their purity in the eyes of God.
 
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Rape may take your virginity but not your soul. Devin do you remember the parable of the virgins. Some were prepared and some were not. Their virginity really had nothing to do with their purity in the eyes of God.
Then why were those who were raped stoned to death? And that parable, those who were not ready were disowned.
 
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