1 COR 11:28-32 IS THE SIN UNTO DEATH !!

“Not discerning the Lord’s body...”

And in the very next chapter (12) what is the Lord’s body?


1 Corinthians 12:27
Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it.

I agree with @Dave-W

NOT DISCERNING THE LORD'S BODY....

I've heard some preach that the unworthy manner is HOW they ate and shared the bread.....Because Paul told them they should eat at home....

But the sentence up above is the pivotal point.

Dave-W said:

“Not discerning the Lord’s body...”

And in the very next chapter (12) what is the Lord’s body?


1 Corinthians 12:27
Now you are Christ’s body, and individually members of it.

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Could you please explain how 1 Cor 12:27
has a connection to discerning the Lord's body?

GodsGrace101 said:

Could you please explain how 1 Cor 12:27
has a connection to discerning the Lord's body?

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Of Course. Your fellow congregants ARE the Lord’s body. If you do not see them as such, you are Not discerning it properly.

Paul is referring to the Eucharistic Body of Christ- when the priest consecrates the Bread and Wine, they truly become the Body and Blood of Jesus, just as He promised. So, to eat His Flesh and drink His Blood unworthily is a sin which causes death. Receiving Him in this intimate manner when you know you are unfit is to become like Judas, who shared the table with Christ and the loyal apostles while planning betrayal. We know what is said of him for his actions.

"In other words "? Meaning you cant find it written.as in what Jesus was really saying So.. there is a reason why some get sin.. have problems. Sin in this world well always bring = death. Tiny lie.. thats sin.. ANYONE that does it.. the price is death. Adam and Eve.. if you eat of this tree you will die. Sin the wages the price is death.

Dan Perez said:

Hi to all and Paul has written that we are to examine ourselves , and then eat of the bread and let him drink from the cup !

In verse 27 says that whoever should EAT this bread or sholud DRINK the Cup of the Lord in an UNWORTHY MANNER will be guilty of the BODY and BLOOD of the Lord !!

What a UNWORTHY MANNER means , is in verses 18-22 !!

In other words , when some could not bring any food , others would not share and get DRUNK !!

In verse 29 they EAT and DRINK JUDGMENT to himself not discerning the Lord's body ! !

And verse 30 describes what happens to those , and many among you are WEAK and SICK and a CONSIDERABLE NUMBER are being put to DEATH or SLEEP !!

dan p

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This does not speak of the individual, but of the whole church not discerning the body and blood of Christ. If a proper exegesis of the passage is done, you will see that Paul is not referring to personal sin in the believer, but in the manner in which Corinthian believers were behaving in the way they approached the Lord's supper, with their drunkedness and gluttony at the table. Thus you will see that Paul is talking exclusively to the Corinthian church. He did not have to say the same things to the other churches because they did not have the same problems. Also, the First Century Corinthian church Lord's Supper was more of a fellowship meal than what we have today.

So, when we examine the passage hermeneutically, we see that in our churches with the host, piece of bread, or water biscuit, Ribena, grape juice, or just a sip of wine from chalice, there is no way that people can be gluttonous or drunk at the Lord's Supper in our churches, so to apply the passage to us, means that we would have to twist it out of its proper context and make it say things that Paul never said.

The fact is, that we, as sinful people (in our flesh) NEED the communion of the Lord's supper. It is the very fact of our sinfulness that we need to come to the table and be reminded that Jesus had His body broken and His bleed shed for us. No one is going to be condemned or judged because they come on their knees to the Lord's table and say, "Lord, forgive me, a sinner."

What is sad is that incompetent exegesis of the passage has caused unnecessary strife and condemnation bombs on good people whom God loves, and have blocked them from participation in the Lord's supper.

TuxAme said:

Paul is referring to the Eucharistic Body of Christ- when the priest consecrates the Bread and Wine, they truly become the Body and Blood of Jesus, just as He promised.

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So you are saying Paul totally shifted gears between chapters 11 and 12 and is using the same terminology to talk about 2 completely different things?

I don't buy it.

Dan Perez said:

Hi and this is my take on 1 Cor 11:27 is that EACH person has to examine themselve and the verb SHALL EAT / ESTHIO is in the Greek present tense which means the supper is a continuous action as a memorial as long as the Body of Christ is on earth !!

dan p

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In support of your post: I believe that a lack of personal holiness would lead to other abuses of the Lord's supper. If we don't respect the Lord enough to live a holy life before Him, we won't have much respect for His body and blood in the memorial of His death.

This is indeed an interesting question. But what does it have to do with Dispensationalism?

Biblewriter said:

This is indeed an interesting question. But what does it have to do with Dispensationalism?

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I'd say the OP has a lot to do with Dispensationalism - one has to look at a question like "what is the sin unto death" from a Dispensational perspective.

2 Tim. 2:15-18 ever makes very obvious the need to look at things from within their respective timeline.

John having been a minister of "the circumcision" Gal. 2: 8-9, his mention of "a sin unto death" 1 John 5: 16, is a mention of it within how it worked/works within Israel's timeline, not within The Body's.

In Corinthians, those being neglected have ended up weak and to such a point that some have even died, to the shame (condemnation) before the world, of those who neglected them. Notice:

1 Corinthians 11:20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper. 11:21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 11:32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 11:33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

1 John's 5's "sin unto death" is not what is taking place at Corinth. Rather, Romans 5:7's is...

Dispensationalism, after all, is the principle of asking 'so how does this work (or not) within how things work with the Body, in contrast to how it works (or not) within how things work with the Nation Israel?" Romans 11:25.

Romans 5: 6-8 - in each our stead.