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Attempts were made to fire Mueller. An attorney General (Sessions) was coerced into leaving for not firing Mueller. Trump submitted written answers, written by his attorneys, to questions--rather than appearing personally.

The attorneys, answering for Trump, indicated the very stable genius had amnesia about every single question posed.

The obstruction continues as subpoenas are ignored and he whines like a baby about being persecuted.

Enough thoroughly researched and footnotes articles have been written to make all the subpoenas and investigations necessary. Former staffers have written books questioning his ethics and sanity.

At least half the country wants him to face justice--and that us an untenable situation, too great to be ignored.

States are taking matters into their own hands, requiring tax returns for candidates in 2020, awarding electoral college votes to popular vote winners because they recognize he is a dangerous threat to our domestic and international security who must be stopped.
Yeah but....

HAVE YOU SEEN OBAMA'S TAN SUIT!?!
 
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Like the Muelller report. That was investigation number four that found no wrong doing?

The Mueller report found plenty of wrongdoing... but it reminded us that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

What happens when they do find wrong doing?

Justice will be served, one would hope.
 
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Like the Muelller report. That was investigation number four that found no wrong doing?

Can you cite where in the report they found that? Because the version I'm familiar with says there was plenty of wrong doing.
 
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What exactly was obstructed?

Was Mueller fired? No
Was Mueller restricted in any way? No
Was Mueller not funnded enough? No
Did the President excerpt executive privilege during the investigation? No
Did the President cite Attorney client privilege during the investigation? No
Did the President fight any of the 500 subpoenas? No
Did the President prevent any of the 600 or so witnesses? No

Please cite your source, what was obstructed.

Since the actual report is a slog, I recommend this statement signed by nearly 950 former prosecutors.
STATEMENT BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
 
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Can you cite where in the report they found that? Because the version I'm familiar with says there was plenty of wrong doing.

Now, now... Donald's Most Loyal Minion (Barr) has said all was well; it is the duty of all of Donald's other loyal minions to take up the chant.
 
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Like the Muelller report. That was investigation number four that found no wrong doing?
Nope, it found lots of wrongdoing. That's why the predsident's personal attorney and his campaign manager are heading to prison (or already there, it is hard to keep up).
 
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Nope, it found lots of wrongdoing. That's why the predsident's personal attorney and his campaign manager are heading to prison (or already there, it is hard to keep up).

Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort are NOT heading prison for anything related to the 2016 Campaign.

Michael Cohen was convicted of lying to congress and tax evasion -

Paul Manafort was convicted of * counts, none of which had anything to do with the President or the 2016 campaign

Both are matters of public record and easily found online. It seems you forgot to mention that.
 
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Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort are NOT heading prison for anything related to the 2016 Campaign.

Michael Cohen was convicted of lying to congress and tax evasion -

Paul Manafort was convicted of * counts, none of which had anything to do with the President or the 2016 campaign

Both are matters of public record and easily found online. It seems you forgot to mention that.
You're half right - Paul Manafort's convictions were not campaign related, but Michael Cohen was convicted for campaign finance violations for which "Individual Number 1" was an unindicted co-conspirator. How you think that absolves Donald from wrongdoing is beyond me.
 
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Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort are NOT heading prison for anything related to the 2016 Campaign.

Ignoring the fact that this is false, the post I was responding to said the investigation found no wrongdoing.
It didn't mention the 2016 campaign so I have no idea why you'd bring it up now.
 
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What exactly was obstructed?

Was Mueller fired? No
Was Mueller restricted in any way? No
Was Mueller not funnded enough? No
Did the President excerpt executive privilege during the investigation? No
Did the President cite Attorney client privilege during the investigation? No
Did the President fight any of the 500 subpoenas? No
Did the President prevent any of the 600 or so witnesses? No

Please cite your source, what was obstructed.
You clearly didn’t read the report!
 
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Can they push impeachment before the IG hands down indictments against some of them?

Indictments? All of a sudden, The idea of weaponizing the criminal justice system doesn't sound so outrageous to you anymore, does it?
 
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Indictments? All of a sudden, The idea of weaponizing the criminal justice system doesn't sound so outrageous to you anymore, does it?
They need an IRONY button!
 
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"The chickens are coming home to roost"? I assume this is what the secret service say everytime the Trumps return to the Whitehouse(thinking of Donald's sterling war record)
 
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What exactly was obstructed?

I would read the law.

Even an attempt that fails, is still obstruction. Even if the investigation was tainted by certain investigators abusing their power, it is still obstruction of an investigation.

At the end of the day, i still hold to an opinion, that both trump and some that investigated him, abused their powers.
 
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