Did the event of 1948 Israel fulfill any Bible prophecy?

Did event of Israel 1948 fulfill any Bible prophecy?


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So you don’t believe the Dead... as in ALL the Dead and the LIVING will be present for the day... As Revelation 20 states?

You deny that Revelation 21 comes after Revelation 20?

Huh?

I thought we agreed on simplicity.
I agree I have eternal life in Christ, so even if I die, I shall live....does thou believest that?

Jhn 11
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26 “And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Rom 14:8
For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
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The destruction of Jerusalem and the OC Mosaic Temple in 70ad as prophecied by Jesus and the OT Prophets is simplicity......

"BEHOLD! YOUR HOUSE IS LEFT TO YE DESOLATE/A WILDERNESS!"

Matthew 23
37 - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!.............
38 Behold! the House of ye is being left desolate/a wilderness<2048>

Luke 13:
34 - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!.........
35 Behold! the House of ye is being left desolate/a wilderness<2048>,

Revelation 18:

19 and they cast dust upon their heads, and cried<2896>, lamenting<2799>, weeping and mourning<3996>, saying,
"Woe! woe! the great City! in which are rich all those having ships<4143> in the sea, out of Her preciousness<5094>,
for to one hour was She was desolated<2049>.
 
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those that rant and rail against the state of Israel seem to be taking it upon themselves to be judge, jury, and in some cases over the years... executioner of the Hebrew people.
The fact that the Jewish State of Israel will be destroyed, is stated in over 20 Bible prophesies. Luke 19:27, +
We who point out those prophesies are not judging them; God is.
Of course you can't abide these truths, because it messes up your favorite doctrine; you floating off to the heavenly realms, while the Jews face tribulation. Unscriptural and unbelievable!
The Lord is about to sort out the righteous from the ungodly, we need to be ready for it.
 
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I agree I have eternal life in Christ, so even if I die, I shall live....does thou believest that?

Jhn 11
25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26 “And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Rom 14:8
For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
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The destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in 70ad as prophecied by Jesus and the OT Prophets is simplicity......

"BEHOLD! YOUR HOUSE IS LEFT TO YE DESOLATE/A WILDERNESS!"

Matthew 23
37 - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!.............
38 Behold! the House of ye is being left desolate/a wilderness<2048>

Luke 13:
34 - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!.........
35 Behold! the House of ye is being left desolate/a wilderness<2048>,

Revelation 18:

19 and they cast dust upon their heads, and cried<2896>, lamenting<2799>, weeping and mourning<3996>, saying,
"Woe! woe! the great City! in which are rich all those having ships<4143> in the sea, out of Her preciousness<5094>,
for to one hour was She was desolated<2049>.

Jesus is the HEAD of The Body of Christ and The King of the Jews

Salvation is by God, Alone (Isaiah 43:11 ; Luke 2:11)

"Father, forgive them, for they know not (Blind, Deaf) what they do.

 
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The fact that the Jewish State of Israel will be destroyed, is stated in over 20 Bible prophesies. Luke 19:27, +
We who point out those prophesies are not judging them; God is.
Of course you can't abide these truths, because it messes up your favorite doctrine; you floating off to the heavenly realms, while the Jews face tribulation. Unscriptural and unbelievable!
The Lord is about to sort out the righteous from the ungodly, we need to be ready for it.

God allows all eyes to see Israel about to perish ... one last time... Then THIS (ZECHARIAH 14 ; JOEL 3) goes down.

All eyes will, again be focused on ISRAEL, and It's King will let the world know WHO HE IS.
 
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No. You're just not posting anything that shows can people can spit in God's eye and still be His people. Again, as I've shown with a number of verses, simply being Jewish doesn't make you one of God's forever - there's a condition on it and that condition is broken, thus only a remnant of Jews will be saved, as Paul stated. Even in the Old Testament, those among the Jews who broke the Law and went after pagan gods were cast out from the people of Israel. It was always conditional. They couldn't just act how they wanted and remain one of God's chosen.

Romans 9:13-14

"I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them."

The some saved are those who believed. No more, no less. The rest are damned, like everyone else who rejects Christ.

You're repeating a small circle of verses which don't specifically mention those conditions while ignoring whole-cloth many others that do, without answering to them.

What's wrong with BDS? Are you suggesting Israel should be able to abuse Gentile populations in and near its borders due to the ethnicity of the founders of Israel?

I might actually take more time to entertain your ideas on these things, but until your position can be thoroughly supported from both the OT and the NT, as is the requirement of the Torah and exampled by the Bereans in Acts 17, your assertion has no evidentiary support.

Regarding the BDS stuff, just make sure you are on the right side. It does have some consequences later on. As I have stated many times, one of the key judgements that will happen when Yeshua establishes the kingdom is that the nations will be brought before Him and He will judge them on how they treated the Hebrew people. Yes, that is fully supported in both OT and NT. History is replete with those who were on the wrong side while thinking they were honoring the Father.
 
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I might actually take more time to entertain your ideas on these things, but until your position can be thoroughly supported from both the OT and the NT, as is the requirement of the Torah and exampled by the Bereans in Acts 17, your assertion has no evidentiary support.

Regarding the BDS stuff, just make sure you are on the right side. It does have some consequences later on. As I have stated many times, one of the key judgements that will happen when Yeshua establishes the kingdom is that the nations will be brought before Him and He will judge them on how they treated the Hebrew people. Yes, that is fully supported in both OT and NT.
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Jesus is the HEAD of The Body of Christ and The King of the Jews

Salvation is by God, Alone (Isaiah 43:11 ; Luke 2:11)

"Father, forgive them, for they know not (Blind, Deaf) what they do.

The Judean Rulership had 40 yrs after the cross , resurrection, ascension of Jesus to repent

Isa 29:18
In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book,
And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness.
Isa 42:18
“Hear, you deaf; And look, you blind, that you may see.
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Jhn 9:
39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
40 Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?”
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.' Therefore your sin remains.

Matthew 23:
15 Woe to ye Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! That ye are going about the sea and the dry/xhran <3584> to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming, ye are making him a son of geennhV<1067> twofold-more of ye-selves
Matthew 23:33
33 "Serpents! produce of vipers!
how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the geennhV <1067>

You ever study on this covenantle parable in Luke 16? My largest study of the NT besides Revelation.

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

Luke 16:24
And he sounding said "Father Abraham! be thou merciful to-me! and send Lazarus! that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water and should be cooling down the tongue of me
that I am being pained in this Flame
."

If the Pharisees and scribes understood Yeshua's prophetic parable, it must have astonished and infuriated them. How could the Jews become alienated from God while the elect Gentiles became the "seed of Abraham"? The implication that the House of Judah and those called from the Gentile nations were to change places would have been almost impossible for the Pharisees and scribes to believe....................
While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable. This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!

Revelation 14:11
And the Smoke of the tormenting of Them is ascending into Ages to-Ages.......... [Ezekiel 39:12/Luke 16:24,26]

Phl 3:2
Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the circumcision!

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There's always a (Type and an Anti Type)

Jesus came the first time to banish the hateful and exploitative from Israel... The next time He comes... He will be banishing the hateful and exploitative that are gathered to DESTROY ISRAEL.

 
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The Judean Rulership had 40 yrs after the cross , resurrection, ascension of Jesus to repent

Isa 29:18
In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book,
And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness.
Isa 42:18
“Hear, you deaf; And look, you blind, that you may see.
===================
Jhn 9:
39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.' Therefore your sin remains.

Matthew 23:
15 Woe to ye Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! That ye are going about the sea and the dry/xhran <3584> to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming, ye are making him a son of geennhV<1067> twofold-more of ye-selves
Matthew 23:33
33 "Serpents! produce of vipers!
how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the geennhV <1067>

You ever study on this covenantle parable in Luke 16? My largest study of the NT besides Revelation.

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

Luke 16:24
And he sounding said "Father Abraham! be thou merciful to-me! and send Lazarus! that he should be dipping the tip of the finger of him of water and should be cooling down the tongue of me
that I am being pained in this Flame
."

If the Pharisees and scribes understood Yeshua's prophetic parable, it must have astonished and infuriated them. How could the Jews become alienated from God while the elect Gentiles became the "seed of Abraham"? The implication that the House of Judah and those called from the Gentile nations were to change places would have been almost impossible for the Pharisees and scribes to believe....................
While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage. Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable. This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!

Revelation 14:11
And the Smoke of the tormenting of Them is ascending into Ages to-Ages.......... [Ezekiel 39:12/Luke 16:24,26]

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He cursed the Fig Tree, just as He promised.

Now it's beginning to Bud again.

The rich man is Jealous of Laz. just as God desired. The rich man begged Laz. to help him! He begged Father Abe to help him.

There's only ONE that can RAISE HIM on the last DAY OF THE LORD. THERE IS ONLY ONE that gave life back to Jonah after Jonah died in rebellion to God, then was swallowed by a Great Fish (Hebrew symbol for DEATH and SHEOL ... also the SEA... and for the record... Leviathan is a symbol)... that Vomited Jonah up on Ninivah's shore... How did that story go?

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There's always a (Type and an Anti Type)

Jesus came the first time to banish the hateful and exploitative from Israel... The next time He comes... He will be banishing the hateful and exploitative that are gathered to DESTROY ISRAEL.
It is the hateful exploitative that God is sending against a hateful exploitative Jerusalem in Revelation 17 and 18 to burn her in fire. :idea: Simple...........

Revelation is talking about a City in Judea, Israel. Why is that so difficult to understand......
The Jews would understand this IF they would read Revelation..........

Acts 1:6 Restore Kingdom to Israel/10 KINGS One Mind Reve 17

Reve 17:
12 And the ten horns which you saw, ten kings are, who any a-Kingdom not-yet received/elabon <2983> (5627), but authority/exousian <1849> as kings, one hour they are receiving/lambanousin <2983> with the wild beast,
13 These one mind/gnwmhn <1106> are having, and the power and authority of them to the wild beast they are giving.
16 And the ten horns which you perceived, and the wild beast, these shall be hating the prostitute, and desolate they shall be making her, and naked.
And the fleshes of her they shall be eating, and her they shall be burning in fire.


17 For the God gives into the hearts of them to do the mind of Him, and to do/make one mind, and to give the Kingdom of them to the wild-beast until shall be being finished the Words of the God.

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 18:16

saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.' Every shipmaster, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, 18and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like the great city?'
19They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!' For in one hour is she made desolate.
 
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It is the hateful exploitative gentiles God is sending against Jerusalem in Revelation 17 and 18 to burn her in fire. :idea:

Revelation is talking about a City in Judea, Israel. Why is that so difficult to understand......
The Jews would understand this IF they would read Revelation..........

Acts 1:6 Restore Kingdom to Israel/10 KINGS One Mind Reve 17

Reve 17:
12 And the ten horns which you saw, ten kings are, who any a-Kingdom not-yet received/elabon <2983> (5627), but authority/exousian <1849> as kings, one hour they are receiving/lambanousin <2983> with the wild beast,
13 These one mind/gnwmhn <1106> are having, and the power and authority of them to the wild beast they are giving.
16 And the ten horns which you perceived, and the wild beast, these shall be hating the prostitute, and desolate they shall be making her, and naked.
And the fleshes of her they shall be eating, and her they shall be burning in fire.

17 For the God gives into the hearts of them to do the mind of Him, and to do/make one mind, and to give the Kingdom of them to the wild-beast until shall be being finished the Words of the God.

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 18:16

saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.' Every shipmaster, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, 18and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What is like the great city?' 19They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!' For in one hour is she made desolate.

Revelation 20 remains a problem for you.

And IMO you're wrong if you think the harlot, Fake Jews that Burn towards the end have anything to do with Jerusalem... .....

There's a video on Youtube where even an Atheist gets it. It's titled "Let's blame the Jews" by Pat Condell.... I can't link it because he speaks rather unfettered.... ahem. But none the less....

Have ya studied Islam lately?
 
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Revelation 20 remains a problem for you.
And IMO you're wrong if you think the harlot, Fake Jews that Burn towards the end have anything to do with Jerusalem... .....
Have ya studied Islam lately?
Islam wasn't around in the 1st century. However, the Romans and their cohorts were..

I viewed 1st century Jerusalem in Revelation the 1st time I read the Bible thru in 2003 and so have many other spirit led Christians.

Jews of Jerusalem............[not all Israel were Jews]

John 11:48
"If-ever we may be be letting Him thus, all shall be believing in Him.
And shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation
[Reve 6:6/14:8]

This is still part of the 70ad Olivet Jerusalem/Temple discourse

Luke 21:24
And they shall be falling to mouth of sword and they shall be being led captive into all the nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trodden by nations until which may be being filled times of nations. [Deuteronomy 28:68/Revelation 11:2/13:10]

Muslims don't use the Roman denari..............

Revelation 6:6 And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "a measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring"."

Hey lookie here!

Captivity and sword Luke 21:24 Revelation 13:10

Revelation 13:10 [Luke 21:24]
If any to-captivity into captivity is going away.
If any in sword to be killed, is binding him in sword to be killed.
Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover................

Of the Jews destroyed during the siege, Josephus reckons not less than ONE MILLION AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, .................Of the captives the whole was about NINETY-SEVEN THOUSAND.

........the tallest and most beautiful youths, together with several of the Jewish nobles were reserved by Titus to grace his triumphal entry into Rome.
After this selection, all above the age of seventeen were sent in chains into Egypt, to be employed there as slaves,
or distributed throughout the empire to be sacrificed as gladiators in the amphitheatres ;
whilst those who were under this age, were exposed to sale.[Deuteronomy 28:68]

Deuteronomy 28:
15 If, however, you do not obey Yahweh thy Elohiym by carefully following all His commandments and statutes I am giving you today,
all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
67
In the morning you will say, ‘If only it were evening!’ and in the evening you will say, ‘If only it were morning!’—because of the dread in your hearts of the terrifying sights you will see.
68
“And Yahweh will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.'
And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”
 
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Islam wasn't around in the 1st century. However, the Romans and their cohorts were..
I viewed 1st century Jerusalem in Revelation the 1st time I read the Bible thru in 2003 and so have many other spirit led Christians.

John 11:48
"If-ever we may be be letting Him thus, all shall be believing in Him.
And shall be coming the Romans and they shall be taking away of Us and the Place and the Nation
[Reve 6:6/14:8]

This is still part of the 70ad Olivet Jerusalem/Temple discourse

Luke 21:24
And they shall be falling to mouth of sword and they shall be being led captive into all the nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trodden by nations until which may be being filled times of nations. [Deuteronomy 28:68/Revelation 11:2/13:10]

Muslims don't use the Roman denari..............

Revelation 6:6 And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "a measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring"."

Hey lookie here!

Captivity and sword Luke 21:24 Revelation 13:10

Revelation 13:10 [Luke 21:24]
If any to-captivity into captivity is going away.
If any in sword to be killed, is binding him in sword to be killed.
Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints
=============================================
The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover................

Of the Jews destroyed during the siege, Josephus reckons not less than ONE MILLION AND ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, .................Of the captives the whole was about NINETY-SEVEN THOUSAND.

........the tallest and most beautiful youths, together with several of the Jewish nobles were reserved by Titus to grace his triumphal entry into Rome.
After this selection, all above the age of seventeen were sent in chains into Egypt, to be employed there as slaves,
or distributed throughout the empire to be sacrificed as gladiators in the amphitheatres ;
whilst those who were under this age, were exposed to sale.[Deuteronomy 28:68]

Deuteronomy 28:
15 If, however, you do not obey Yahweh thy Elohiym by carefully following all His commandments and statutes I am giving you today,
all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
67
In the morning you will say, ‘If only it were evening!’ and in the evening you will say, ‘If only it were morning!’—because of the dread in your hearts of the terrifying sights you will see.
68
“And Yahweh will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.'
And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”

I'm going to express a rather inconvenient fact. We're well past 100 AD... so... the idea that we need to be locked into the Justin Martyr idea that all Prophecy was complete in 70 AD is over.

I'll go one extra mile and express that Jerusalem exists again and is surrounded by descendants of the very people that once oppressed her. The difference is that now... they are all unified under a false god, who's false prophet purports that Isa (Fake Jesus)... never died for humanity and will "Break the Cross" of the Christians..... (Sunni Belief... which is the dominant sect)...

Israel exists again and it isn't an accident. If that fire was supposed to burn ages and ages... why did it go out and now Israel is back?

I mean this politely, but truthfully...

All I have to do is turn on the TV, read my bible and Believe what God has promised and I can defend that Israel is Real easier than this...

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I've even exegeted Romans 9, 10, Acts 1... portions... Galatians 6:16 and I have further to go... but about Acts 1... Did the Angels lie... and please tell me when Zechariah 14 and Joel 3 happened in totality again?

In reference to Galatians 6:16... the house translation actually renders it the way that leans towards Israel and the BOC being two separate entities... as the third kai is placed.

Is Israel in rebellion of God? You bet ya! Does God have a surprise party planned for her? He does.
 
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I'm going to express a rather inconvenient fact. We're well past 100 AD... so... the idea that we need to be locked into the Justin Martyr idea that all Prophecy was complete in 70 AD is over.
I have already defended my view of 1st century Jerusalem in Revelation. I wish the non-Christian Jews would read it so I could debate it with them as it pertains to their OT Scriptures.........

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament

THE SYMBOLISM IN BOOK OF REVELATION

One man studied and found 348 allusions (not illusions, Light) in Revelation from the Old Testament. You see the similarity in wording and the context mirrored in Revelation and the particular Old Testament story, and immediately can recognize the reference source!
That's IF you know the bible well enough to even notice that.

95 of the 348 plain references used in Revelation as taken from the Old Testament are repeated in Revelation.
That makes about 250 Old Testament passages are cited. How many chapters are in Revelation? 22. That makes about TEN OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES FOR EVERY CHAPTER!
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Here are some of the ones I have come up with. Please feel free to add or comment on them.

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Books in Daniel Daniel 7:9 and 11:10.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Cried and joy Temple/City: Ezra 3:12,13 and Reve 18:18, 19:4
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Ear to hear: Isaiah 6:9,10 and Matt 13:15, Reve 2,3,13
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Holy Holy Holy Isaiah 6:6 and Revelation 4:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Jericho, Priest and Trumpets: Joshua 6:4, Hebrews 11:30, Matt 24:31, Reve 8:6
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Lift hands to heaven and swore..: Daniel 2:7 and Reve 10:5
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Light Revelation to Israel and Nations: Isaiah 9:2, Luke 2:32, Reve 1:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah, fire falling, as is also seen in Revelation.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Mountain of fire cast into Sea
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Pierced: Zech 12:10 and Reve 1:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sacrifice/Supper of God: Ezek 39:17 and Reve 19:17
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sanctuary/Tabernacle filled with smoke
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Silence/Hush: Zech 1:7, 2:13 and Reve 8:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sodom and Egypt: Matt 2:15, Reve 11:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Song of Moses: Exodus 15:1 and Revelation 15:3
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Spirit lifting, taking Ezekiel and John
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Stars 7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Tree of Life and Garden: Genesis 3:24 and Reve 2:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Whip.........Nahum 3:2, John 2:15,
 
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I have already defended my view of 1st century Jerusalem in Revelation. I wish the non-Christian Jews would read it so I could debate it with them as it pertains to their OT Scriptures.........

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament

THE SYMBOLISM IN BOOK OF REVELATION

One man studied and found 348 allusions (not illusions, Light) in Revelation from the Old Testament. You see the similarity in wording and the context mirrored in Revelation and the particular Old Testament story, and immediately can recognize the reference source!
That's IF you know the bible well enough to even notice that.

95 of the 348 plain references used in Revelation as taken from the Old Testament are repeated in Revelation.
That makes about 250 Old Testament passages are cited. How many chapters are in Revelation? 22. That makes about TEN OLD TESTAMENT REFERENCES FOR EVERY CHAPTER!
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Here are some of the ones I have come up with. Please feel free to add or comment on them.

Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Books in Daniel Daniel 7:9 and 11:10.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Cried and joy Temple/City: Ezra 3:12,13 and Reve 18:18, 19:4
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Ear to hear: Isaiah 6:9,10 and Matt 13:15, Reve 2,3,13
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Holy Holy Holy Isaiah 6:6 and Revelation 4:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Jericho, Priest and Trumpets: Joshua 6:4, Hebrews 11:30, Matt 24:31, Reve 8:6
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Lift hands to heaven and swore..: Daniel 2:7 and Reve 10:5
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Light Revelation to Israel and Nations: Isaiah 9:2, Luke 2:32, Reve 1:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah, fire falling, as is also seen in Revelation.
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Moses and Elijah
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Mountain of fire cast into Sea
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Pierced: Zech 12:10 and Reve 1:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sacrifice/Supper of God: Ezek 39:17 and Reve 19:17
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sanctuary/Tabernacle filled with smoke
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Silence/Hush: Zech 1:7, 2:13 and Reve 8:1
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Sodom and Egypt: Matt 2:15, Reve 11:8
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Song of Moses: Exodus 15:1 and Revelation 15:3
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Spirit lifting, taking Ezekiel and John
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Stars 7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Tree of Life and Garden: Genesis 3:24 and Reve 2:7
Allusions in Revelation from Old Testament
Whip.........Nahum 3:2, John 2:15,

Now on this... I agree with you. We see it differently... but you are correct that Revelation is nothing without the OT.

Also... I agree that 70 AD was foretold by Jesus Himself... but I disagree that the Fat Lady was proverbially singing there.

I confess, I could easily utilize your intricate linking of Rev. To the OT to bolster my own argument... but instead, I read, see it and appreciate your Love for Jesus in your studies.
 
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Not a clue so far. If it helps, I stay away from Dispensationalism thinking it is all false prophecy.
That is your opinion in regards to Dispensationalism.
Replacement Theology is a FALSE TEACHING.
Obviously. Well should be obvious , but apparently not .
And there will definitely be a Third Temple.
 
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Satan is now loosed according to the last half of Revelation 20. Christ can return any day now.
Jesus can and will remove His Bride (The Church)
at any moment where we (believers since Pentacost until present, dead in Christ first) meet Him in the air/clouds.
But , His Second Coming where He sets foot on the earth (mount of Olives) will happen after the removal of the Church and after the 7 year tribulation.
 
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Where does the Bible say that one gets to be the apple of God's eye on account of his race while they spit in the face of Christ?

It doesn't. The Jews never received the promises of race, and they rejected their heritage of grace.

1 Chronicles 5:2
For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler (David/Christ/Sceptre/Grace); but the birthright (by race) was Joseph's:

Genesis 49:10
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
 
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