Did the event of 1948 Israel fulfill any Bible prophecy?

LittleLambofJesus said:

Did event of Israel 1948 fulfill any Bible prophecy?

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Yes, that lying wonders bit . . .

I know that with the declaration of Israel back into existence in 1948, the religious world raced back to the scriptures. Up to that moment, the church had been declaring itself the replacement, when ever you read Israel, it meant the church. It was a widely accepted understanding at that time because there was no Israel. Then miracle of miracles, Jerusalem/Israel was back in the reality of prophecies. In Amos 9:14-15, the prophet said that there would come a time when the exiles of Israel would again have Israel as their own land and that they would never be uprooted again.

In Ezekiel 37:10-14, the prophet receives a vision in which Israel was seen as a scattering of dried-up bones. In this vision, God tells Ezekiel that the bones (Israel) would be brought back to life. Just as Ezekiel had prophesized about 2600 years ago, the Jews were brought back to the land, and the country of Israel was brought back to life. Israel re-established sovereignty in 1948, a mere three years after the end of the Holocaust, during which the Nazis killed about one-third of the world’s Jewish population.

In Isaiah 66:7-8, the prophet foreshadowed the re-birth of Israel in 1948. Isaiah describes a woman giving birth before going into labor, and he speaks of a country being born in one day. This accurately describes what happened on May 14, 1948 - when the Jews declared independence for Israel as a united and sovereign nation for the first time in 2900 years.

In Ezekiel 37:21-22, the prophet said that God would one day bring the people of Israel back to Israel, as a united nation. This might have been a shock for Ezekiel. He lived about 2600 years ago. At that time, the people of Israel had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And, both kingdoms had been conquered by foreign invaders, who forced many of the people, including Ezekiel, into exile. But, when Jews reclaimed sovereignty in 1948, they did so as a united people, creating one nation - Israel.

In Jeremiah 16:14-15, the prophet said the second Israel would be more impressive than the first. In many regards, it is. The first time that Israel was established as a country was after Moses led the descendants of Jacob (typically referred to today as Jews) out of Egypt, where they had been enslaved for 400 years. They then conquered Canaan and established Israel about 3400 years ago. But the second time that Israel was established was after the Jews had been scattered far and wide for a few thousand years. This time the Jews had to return from as far away as the United States, China, Russia and South Africa.

In Ezekiel 4:3-6, the prophet said the Jews, who had lost control of their homeland, would be punished for 430 years. This prophecy, according to Bible scholar Grant Jeffrey, pinpointed the 1948 rebirth of Israel. Here’s a summary of Jeffrey’s theory:

1. Ezekiel said the Jews were to be punished for 430 years because they had turned away from God. As part of the punishment, the Jews lost control of their homeland to Babylon. Many Jews were taken as captives to Babylon.
2. Babylon was later conquered by Cyrus in 539 BC. Cyrus allowed the Jews to leave Babylon and to return to their homeland. But, only a small number returned. The return had taken place sometime around 536 BC, about 70 years after Judah lost independence to Babylon.
3. Because most of the exiles chose to stay in pagan Babylon rather than return to the Holy Land, the remaining 360 years of their punishment was multiplied by 7. The reason is explained in Bible’s book of Leviticus. (Leviticus 26:18, Leviticus 26:21, Leviticus 26:24 and Leviticus 26:28). In Leviticus, it says that if the people did not repent while being punished, the punishment would be multiplied by 7. And, by staying in pagan Babylon, most exiles were refusing to repent.
4. So, if you take the remaining 360 years of punishment and multiply by 7, you get 2,520 years. But, Jeffrey says those years are based on an ancient 360-day lunar calendar. If those years are adjusted to the modern solar calendar, the result is 2,484 years.
5. And, there were exactly 2,484 years from 536 BC to 1948, which is the year that Israel regained independence.

In Ezekiel 34:13, the prophet said that God would gather the people of Israel scattered throughout the world and bring them back to “their own land.” After many centuries of dispersion, hundreds of thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland beginning in the late 1800s. But, millions more returned after Israel declared independence in 1948. In other words, millions of exiles returned to their ancient homeland which was now truly “their own land” in the sense that it was now a sovereign Jewish state.

In Jeremiah 31:10, the prophet said that God would one day gather the Jews back to Israel and that He would watch over them like a shepherd. Believe what you wish, but there is evidence that God indeed has watched over the re-established nation of Israel. Hours after Israel declared independence in 1948, the surrounding countries attacked, hoping to replace the Jewish state with an Arab state. These countries are much larger than Israel. But tiny Israel prevailed in that war and was able to capture additional land, increasing the land size of Israel by 50 percent. Israel also prevailed in the two other major wars that followed.

In Leviticus 26:3, 7-8, the Bible says that the army of Israel would have a supernatural power to prevail during times of conflict, if the people are obedient to the Lord. This Bible passage says that 5 people would be able to chase away 100 people, and that 100 would be able to chase away 10,000. Is there any proof to this incredible claim? Judge for yourself:

Example 1: Within hours of Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon invaded Israel. The combined population of those countries was at least 20 million at that time. Israel had fewer than 1 million Jews. Even so, the Jews won the war and expanded the size of Israel by 50 percent.

Example 2: During the War of 1967, Israel attacked the air force bases of the surrounding countries and took control of Jerusalem for the first time in about 2000 years. They also seized additional territory. That war lasted a mere 6 days.

Example 3: On Oct. 6, 1973, Israel was attacked by Egypt and Syria. Other countries later joined the attack. But the Jews were able to push back the attacking armies and occupy land outside of Israel’s borders.

In Deuteronomy 30:3-5, the Bible said the Jews would be scattered worldwide and that they later would return to their homeland and have their fortunes restored. This prophecy began to be fulfilled in modern times during the late 1800s when many Jews returned to Israel, from as far away as China and the United States, Russia and South Africa. Israel declared independence in 1948. Today, Israel is among the world’s most prosperous countries. In 1999, for example, Israel’s per capita Gross Domestic Product was twice as prosperous than the neighboring countries.

Zechariah 13
7 ¶ Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Since the two thirds purification dealio didn't happen, then God didn't do it. It's a political Israel, not the refined one of prophecy.

Hi copperhead,

You wrote in an earlier post:

Copperhead said:

Just like the myth that the Jews killed Yeshua that has been the basis of antisemitism for so long. It is true, if one tells a lie long and loud enough, it eventually becomes the truth.

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I would say that it's sad that such an idea leads to antisemitism. I would think that any born again believer would be thankful that the Jews did complete God's plan of salvation. The Jews have always been God's people upon the earth. They were called out in the days of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and as a nation from Egypt.

According to Daniel, it was their purpose from God to bring in salvation and righteousness. Doesn't anyone understand that it was only because of Jesus' death and resurrection that we can even obtain salvation and righteousness before God? God used His people to accomplish that. Just as He used His people to write down the Scriptures.

The Jews did kill Jesus, but they were supposed to!!!! God's people were supposed to accomplish God's will and plan upon the earth. They did!

God bless,
In Christ, ted

My answer is no because there is no scriptural precedent for this prophecy. It was all fulfilled in the Old Testament. That being said, it is ok to believe that the regathering of Jews in Israel is prophetic however it is not ok to lead the Jewish people to the anti-christ where 2/3rds are annihilated. That is in fact what Dispensationalist believe.
I pray for their souls.
Blessings

LittleLambofJesus said:

Discuss............

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We're in the last days.

That is, the last dispensation before Jesus returns to set up His millennial kingdom.

LittleLambofJesus said:

The Jews indirectly killed Jesus by using the Romans. And in 70ad, God used those same Romans to bring vengeance and wrath upon their own heads.

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I guess that means that His mother Miriam, his brothers, his disciples, his Apostles were all in on it, right?

Gentiles are grafted into Israel according to this verse
Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

However, the truth is that typology in the Bible always points to something greater. The symbolic lamb points to Christ—the latter being so much greater than the former. Literal Babylon points to end-time Babylon, comprising all the forces that reject God. Literal Jerusalem is a type of end-time spiritual Jerusalem, comprising the redeemed of all the ages. Despite this, dispensationalists await a literal reconstruction of Babylon and Israel, which would be the same as awaiting the return of a literal lamb.
Literal versus Spiritual Israel | Tribulation of God's People | Bible Prophecy

Thus Israel is not a literal nation but a spiritual nation.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Original Happy Camper said:

Gentiles are grafted into Israel according to this verse
Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

However, the truth is that typology in the Bible always points to something greater. The symbolic lamb points to Christ—the latter being so much greater than the former. Literal Babylon points to end-time Babylon, comprising all the forces that reject God. Literal Jerusalem is a type of end-time spiritual Jerusalem, comprising the redeemed of all the ages. Despite this, dispensationalists await a literal reconstruction of Babylon and Israel, which would be the same as awaiting the return of a literal lamb.
Literal versus Spiritual Israel | Tribulation of God's People | Bible Prophecy

Thus Israel is not a literal nation but a spiritual nation.

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

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Well lookey there one Romans 9 Verse taken out of context...

Grip Docility said:

taken from my OP, here

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Beginning of multi-chapter Exegesis

Romans 9-11, Acts 1, Zechariah 14, Joel 3 and Galatians 4 and 6:16

~Intro to Romans 9 -inprogress-~

I speak the truth in Christ —I am not lying; my conscience is testifying to me with the Holy Spirit —
Romans 9:1 - Bible Gateway passage: Romans 9:1 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Paul just made it clear he’s about to be painfully honest, and has bound his words to be judged by God, as He is holding himself in personal accountability of Preaching what he’s about to preach under God.

that I have intense sorrow and continual anguish in my heart.

For I could almost wish to be cursed and cut off from the Messiah for the benefit of my brothers, my own flesh and blood.

They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the temple service, and the promises. The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Messiah, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.
Romans 9:2-5 - Bible Gateway passage: Romans 9:2-5 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Paul’s heart hurts... why? In verse 2 he immediately reveals he is broken inside!

Verses 3-5 reveal why! Paul literally wishes he could revoke his salvation to give it to a group of people that apparently matter to him enormously. As Paul is speaking under oath of the Holy Spirit, he is revealing God’s heart, as well. This lines up with Christ’s words that close Matthew 23 with deep sorrow and lamenting, but show hope.

Who is making Paul sad? His brothers of “his own flesh and blood”... which is clearly a reference to his unbelieving Jewish brothers of the Broken off nature, of ... what Nation?

Israel as Paul calls these broken off Jews Israelites! Paul specifically notes that they are Israelites of the National Israel and goes on to specify that they are so by blood, DNA, Ancestral experience!

Anyone who contests this is ignoring context...

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Continued... Romans 9:6-13

Continued... Romans 9:14-26

Continued... Romans 9:27-28

Concluded... Romans 9:29-33

LittleLambofJesus said:

Conversation from another thread:

Who believes we are in the latter days and that the Rapture will happen in our lifetime?
Discuss............

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I believe that Israel refers to all true believers in the NT and we can use the OT to understand this as well. However, it is of spiritual note that Israel regains statehood in recent history...seemingly prophesied, but not really. What I am saying is that all Israel is drawn back (back to the Lord with repentant hearts after the Lord was born and ministered to them) and this true Israel, the 'Israel of God", will be brought to the New Jerusalem...heaven...as Revelation states and not to the geographic location of Israel.
There does exist a doctrine which is based on a very literal reading of Scripture (in some areas but only selectively so then amils cannot be rightly accused of running amuck in their doctrine/my doctrine due to "spiritualizing" the readings b/c they do too...in other areas so as to back up their own doctrine.) Those which see Israel as OT Jews and their linage misunderstand, in my view, or misinterpret prophesy. Many citations can be given, but not necessary here to make my point. I believe that this is a look-alike situation which may have been set up by Satan to deceive the nations. Satan twists Scripture and misuses it...as is best seen in the temptation of Jesus account. It is a means of being the antichrist...for to be an antichrist you have to have followers.
Also Satan presents, of course, as an angel of light. It may follow that this is an event sponsored by Satan to further entrap the Jews (and some believers) into believing all Israel will be saved without converting.

throughfireytrial said:

I believe that Israel refers to all true believers in the NT and we can use the OT to understand this as well. However, it is of spiritual note that Israel regains statehood in recent history...seemingly prophesied, but not really. What I am saying is that all Israel is drawn back (back to the Lord with repentant hearts after the Lord was born and ministered to them) and this true Israel, the 'Israel of God", will be brought to the New Jerusalem...heaven...as Revelation states and not to the geographic location of Israel.
There does exist a doctrine which is based on a very literal reading of Scripture (in some areas but only selectively so then amils cannot be rightly accused of running amuck in their doctrine/my doctrine due to "spiritualizing" the readings b/c they do too...in other areas so as to back up their own doctrine.) Those which see Israel as OT Jews and their linage misunderstand, in my view, or misinterpret prophesy. Many citations can be given, but not necessary here to make my point. I believe that this is a look-alike situation which may have been set up by Satan to deceive the nations. Satan twists Scripture and misuses it...as is best seen in the temptation of Jesus account. It is a means of being the antichrist...for to be an antichrist you have to have followers.
Also Satan presents, of course, as an angel of light. It may follow that this is an event sponsored by Satan to further entrap the Jews (and some believers) into believing all Israel will be saved without converting.

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with recognition that Yeshua is their Messiah.

throughfireytrial said:

I believe that Israel refers to all true believers in the NT and we can use the OT to understand this as well. However, it is of spiritual note that Israel regains statehood in recent history...seemingly prophesied, but not really. What I am saying is that all Israel is drawn back (back to the Lord with repentant hearts after the Lord was born and ministered to them) and this true Israel, the 'Israel of God", will be brought to the New Jerusalem...heaven...as Revelation states and not to the geographic location of Israel.
There does exist a doctrine which is based on a very literal reading of Scripture (in some areas but only selectively so then amils cannot be rightly accused of running amuck in their doctrine/my doctrine due to "spiritualizing" the readings b/c they do too...in other areas so as to back up their own doctrine.) Those which see Israel as OT Jews and their linage misunderstand, in my view, or misinterpret prophesy. Many citations can be given, but not necessary here to make my point. I believe that this is a look-alike situation which may have been set up by Satan to deceive the nations. Satan twists Scripture and misuses it...as is best seen in the temptation of Jesus account. It is a means of being the antichrist...for to be an antichrist you have to have followers.
Also Satan presents, of course, as an angel of light. It may follow that this is an event sponsored by Satan to further entrap the Jews (and some believers) into believing all Israel will be saved without converting.

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I have 3 legitimate questions...

1) What is going on here?

So when they had come together, they asked Him, “Lord, are You restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
Acts 1:6-8 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:6-8 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

2) What is going on here, as in literally where are His feet, where does He go, how does He get there?

After He had said this, He was taken up as they were watching, and a cloud took Him out of their sight. While He was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them. They said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven.”
Acts 1:9-11 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:9-11 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Where did His feet leave from?

Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called the Mount of Olives, which is near Jerusalem—a Sabbath day’s journey away.
Acts 1:12 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:12 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Grip Docility said:

I have 3 legitimate questions...

1) What is going on here?

So when they had come together, they asked Him, “Lord, are You restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
Acts 1:6-8 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:6-8 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

2) What is going on here, as in literally where are His feet, where does He go, how does He get there?

After He had said this, He was taken up as they were watching, and a cloud took Him out of their sight. While He was going, they were gazing into heaven, and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them. They said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking up into heaven? This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven.”
Acts 1:9-11 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:9-11 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Where did His feet leave from?

Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called the Mount of Olives, which is near Jerusalem—a Sabbath day’s journey away.
Acts 1:12 - Bible Gateway passage: Acts 1:12 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

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I like where you were headed with this post.. There is another place where it talks about the restoration of the kingdom of Israel. The blinders will come off.
Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

visionary said:

I like where you were headed with this post.. There is another place where it talks about the restoration of the kingdom of Israel. The blinders will come off.
Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

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