And Adam was not Deceived - 1 Timothy 2:14

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If woman were not able to child-bear, there would never have been a Messiah to save them from their sins; thus, they were (and are) saved through child-bearing. (simple!)
Well, but Paul is speaking about women's relationship to the Church which seems like an odd time to speak about the Messiah being born from a woman. Those women have already been saved if they're Christians, so what other saving needs to be done? They already have the Messiah.
 
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I understand but when Adam and Eve start playing the blame game, they allude to the order of the deception/sin implying that, as Eve was deceived by the serpent, so too was Adam deceived by Eve. The verse in Timothy goes on to even highlight Eve’s transgression, but again, completely glosses over Adam.

They both sinned and that is how God saw it.
What may be of interest is if Adam was directly involved with the serpent,would he have resisted?
 
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Well, but Paul is speaking about women's relationship to the Church which seems like an odd time to speak about the Messiah being born from a woman. Those women have already been saved if they're Christians, so what other saving needs to be done? They already have the Messiah.
They would not "have the Messiah", not any Messiah, if not for child-bearing.
 
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They both sinned and that is how God's saw it.
What may be of interest is if Adam was directly involved with the serpent,would he have resisted?
Even more interesting, or enlightening, why do most men (and women) today not resist hasatan ?
Yahuweh says: "resist hasatan , and he flees". (even for little children)
 
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Even more interesting, or enlightening, why do most men (and women) today not resist hasatan ?
Yahuweh says: "resist hasatan , and he flees". (even for little children)
Well, I guess it is worth asking why the serpent chose Eve to begin with... I'm sure it was strategic. Eve should have asked the snake to eat first, and then Satan would have had to die, too. Maybe? :scratch:

People don't resist Satan because Satan seems to offer them what they want. Satan isn't dumb. The sinful things people want are largely things Satan has already introduced and perpetuated through generations, so it's an easy guess what vulnerability a person may have.
 
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I understand but when Adam and Eve start playing the blame game, they allude to the order of the deception/sin implying that, as Eve was deceived by the serpent, so too was Adam deceived by Eve.

There's no deception from Eve towards Adam in the text. She handed him the fruit and he ate, without being deceived as Paul writes. Adam simply choose to sin willingly, knowing it was wrong. Eve was deceived so she didn't realize it was wrong. That's how deception works.
 
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