The Works of the Law

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
Plead refrain from asking me something I already answered. I'm a work in progress and I'll just keep repeating that if you ask again.

Kenny,

Is Jesus God?

DM25 · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
How but the narrow way and wide road scripture? Are you saying we no longer need to take the narrow way and now the wide road leads to heaven if we should choose that route?

And I think you are confused about Christs easier yolk.
His way is easier than a life of sin. IOW, if we do as he asks and simply try to do right instead of saying we can live a life of whatever sin we like, we will have true happiness and an "easier" life in Christs ways, than that of a life of sin.

So you bend the bible out of proportion if you like, and tell everyone that means we can do it the easy way and sin all we like, and still make it to heaven, but I assure you, yours is the frightening way, and I recommend everyone be afraid of OSAS...very afraid.

You are on the broad path... The broad way is works... The narrow way is Jesus alone. So there's your answer to that.

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
Plead refrain from asking me something I already answered. I'm a work in progress and I'll just keep repeating that if you ask again.

Do you believe Jesus isn’t sufficient to save you?

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
You should know our take on that already, it's a work in progress. The more we want heaven, the more we will concern ourselves about doing right, and the more we do as Christ says we must do in order to get to heaven, the more secure we will be. It ain't over till it's over, people fall away all the time, and it all depends where we are when we die or Christ returns.

Knowing I will stand before Christ in the Judgment one day, I would be frightened to death to teach anyone eternal security. That's for those so selfish they don't want to do as God says, so they pretend throughout their life, it's ok to be selfish, at least as far as getting to heaven goes, and if I were you, I'd at least keep it to myself.

Luke 17:2
It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Kenny,

You are ReCrucifying Christ Daily. You are rendering the Cross as worthless. You are attempting to Save yourself!

I sincerely mean this... please trust in Him!

He’s good enough to save you!

Kenny'sID · May 24, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Do you believe Jesus isn’t sufficient to save you?

I've heard all that line before. I think it's all something some man taught you, and I think the trickery involved in it, as in trying to make innocent seekers feel guilty for doing as God told them to do is sickening, so I'll have no part in what you "think" your going to accomplish with those tactics.

Some of us are still awake, and just because you are unable to see what an awful thing that is to do to people in order to guilt them to coming over you your side, we can still see it.

Satan is full of little deception such as that.

Kenny'sID · May 24, 2019

Grip Docility said:
You are ReCrucifying Christ Daily.

And there is another just like it.

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
I've heard all that line before. I think it's all something some man taught you, and I think the trickery involved in it, as in trying to make innocent seekers feel guilty for doing as God told them to do is sickening, so I'll have no part in what you "think" your going to accomplish with those tactics.

Some of us are still awake, and just because you are unable to see what an awful thing that is to do to people in order to guilt them to coming over you your side, we can still see it.

Satan is full of little deception such as that.

Satan?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is God’s power to us who are being saved. For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside the understanding of the experts. Where is the philosopher? Where is the scholar? Where is the debater of this age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish? For since, in God’s wisdom, the world did not know God through wisdom, God was pleased to save those who believe through the foolishness of the message preached. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles. Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God’s power and God’s wisdom, because God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.
1 Corinthians 1:18-25 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 1:18-25 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

And again...

When I came to you, brothers, announcing the testimony of God to you, I did not come with brilliance of speech or wisdom. For I didn’t think it was a good idea to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I came to you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 2:1-5 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
And there is another just like it.

This is Holy Scripture...

How about this? John 5:39-40

For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to evangelize—not with clever words, so that the cross of Christ will not be emptied of its effect.
1 Corinthians 1:17 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 1:17 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Grip Docility · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
And there is another just like it.

This is like a joke to you!

I can’t even begin to assure you, you don’t understand scripture.

Who has deceived you?

If you can properly Exegete Galatians 4, I will gladly admit I’m wrong.

DM25 · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
I've heard all that line before. I think it's all something some man taught you, and I think the trickery involved in it, as in trying to make innocent seekers feel guilty for doing as God told them to do is sickening, so I'll have no part in what you "think" your going to accomplish with those tactics.

Some of us are still awake, and just because you are unable to see what an awful thing that is to do to people in order to guilt them to coming over you your side, we can still see it.

Satan is full of little deception such as that.

You don't think you can serve God and love him and do good works for him while at the same time believing in the gospel and knowing works don't save you? You are simply serving him out of fear, not out of genuine love? Then you need to change your mind (repent).... Because God will not grant anyone salvation if they don't believe they are saved by trusting in him and him alone.

DM25 · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
Some of us are still awake, and just because you are unable to see what an awful thing that is to do to people in order to guilt them to coming over you your side, we can still see it.

Oh yeah you are still "awake" along with the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and all others who also teach man's works and effort are needed for salvation. This is ridiculous... You are asleep. Wake up or you will perish.

DM25 · May 24, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
Satan is full of little deception such as that.

Satan hates the gospel of Jesus Christ alone for salvation. That's why he has you in bondage. Satan loves when people like you try to work your way to heaven.

You do realize you pretty much called the gospel satanic and Jesus Satan by saying that...? Be careful... That's one of the worst sins. In fact you are committing the only sin (unbelief) that will lead you to hell right now. All your works you will bring to God when he tells you he never knew you will be like filthy rags... I will pray for you.

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Satan?

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is God’s power to us who are being saved. For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside the understanding of the experts. Where is the philosopher? Where is the scholar? Where is the debater of this age? Hasn’t God made the world’s wisdom foolish? For since, in God’s wisdom, the world did not know God through wisdom, God was pleased to save those who believe through the foolishness of the message preached. For the Jews ask for signs and the Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles. Yet to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is God’s power and God’s wisdom, because God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and God’s weakness is stronger than human strength.
1 Corinthians 1:18-25 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 1:18-25 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

And again...

When I came to you, brothers, announcing the testimony of God to you, I did not come with brilliance of speech or wisdom. For I didn’t think it was a good idea to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. I came to you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. My speech and my proclamation were not with persuasive words of wisdom but with a powerful demonstration by the Spirit, so that your faith might not be based on men’s wisdom but on God’s power.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 2:1-5 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

You clearly somehow have it in your mind I'm supposed to get some kind of point from a bunch of random verses you have posted...Sorry, it doesn't work that way for anyone. If I did that to you, you'd be clueless as I am what you are doing.

So, if you have a point, you need to make it clear.

And yes, Satan. See, you weren't clear there either. Was I lying? What is your point?

Grip Docility said:
This is Holy Scripture...

How about this? John 5:39-40

For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to evangelize—not with clever words, so that the cross of Christ will not be emptied of its effect.
1 Corinthians 1:17 - Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 1:17 - Holman Christian Standard Bible

Same with that, you need to tell me what your point is and not just throw things out there that you think look good and not do the work to make them work for you.

Grip Docility said:
This is like a joke to you!

I can’t even begin to assure you, you don’t understand scripture.

Who has deceived you?

If you can properly Exegete Galatians 4, I will gladly admit I’m wrong.

You still aren't doing a thing but wasting our time with such posts. If you don't think I understand scripture, then point to an exact scripture that you think I don't understand, and explain. WOW.

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

DM25 said:
Oh yeah you are still "awake" along with the Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and all others who also teach man's works and effort are needed for salvation. This is ridiculous... You are asleep. Wake up or you will perish.

Then be disobedient, and let the chips fall where they may, I don't expect to get a things across to some of you, that's a given, I'm only here to see to it your false teachings are exposed for those who are seeking.

For Gods children to be...Faith in Christ saves us, and disobedience shows our faith is not real...so get real.

For those who would choose to be disobedient, to not do good/to do evil, and think it won't cost you, please remember the following very simple words in the scripture. Christ loved you enough to be specific due to the fact he knew people would be teaching false doctrine, and some of you would be looking for the truth, so at least consider taking it to heart:

John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Grip Docility · May 25, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
You clearly somehow have it in your mind I'm supposed to get some kind of point from a bunch of random verses you have posted...Sorry, it doesn't work that way for anyone. If I did that to you, you'd be clueless as I am what you are doing.

So, if you have a point, you need to make it clear.

And yes, Satan. See, you weren't clear there either. Was I lying? What is your point?

Same with that, you need to tell me what your point is and not just throw things out there that you think look good and not do the work to make them work for you.

You still aren't doing a thing but wasting our time with such posts. If you don't think I understand scripture, then point to an exact scripture that you think I don't understand, and explain. WOW.

So the irony of your reply is sad. You start by saying... “just a bunch of random verses”...

Which are portions of 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 that are literally in context.

Then you go on about how you “know scripture” and boast that I’m waisted your time.

I struggle not to clown on people when I get irritated... but sincerely... you... just did it to yourself.

As I live and breath, I didn’t mean to set that up!

This is awkward.

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

DM25 said:
Satan loves when people like you try to work your way to heaven.

Again: Faith in Christ saves us, and disobedience shows our faith is not real...so get real.

DM25 said:
You do realize you pretty much called the gospel satanic and Jesus Satan by saying that...? Be careful... That's one of the worst sins.

The false gospel is satanic and the false Christ is known as the Anti Christ who's spirit is alive and well.

So, you be careful.

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

Grip Docility said:
So the irony of your reply is sad. You start by saying... “just a bunch of random verses”...

Which are portions of 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 that are literally in context.

Then you go on about how you “know scripture” and boast that I’m waisted your time.

I struggle not to clown on people when I get irritated... but sincerely... you... just did it to yourself.

As I live and breath, I didn’t mean to set that up!

This is awkward.

No need for excuses.

I never really thought you had anything to back up what you thought you were saying with those verses, but thought I'd give you fair opportunity before I said anything.

Thanks just the same

Grip Docility · May 25, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
No need for excuses.

I never really thought you had anything to back up what you thought you were saying with those verses, but thought I'd give you fair opportunity before I said anything.

Thanks just the same

Post 133 is your undoing (I am saddened that you find this post “foolish”)

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

DM25 said:
You don't think you can serve God and love him and do good works for him while at the same time believing in the gospel and knowing works don't save you? You are simply serving him out of fear, not out of genuine love? Then you need to change your mind (repent).... Because God will not grant anyone salvation if they don't believe they are saved by trusting in him and him alone.

You are, in affect, saying we should not fear God, and the following are just 2 out of many:

Psalm 115:11

You who fear the LORD, trust in the LORD; He is their help and their shield.

Proverbs 14:26-27

In the fear of the LORD there is strong confidence, And his children will have refuge. The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, That one may avoid the snares of death.

Kenny'sID · May 25, 2019

Grip Docility said:
Post 133 is your undoing (I am saddened that you find this post “foolish”)

Still nothing to say about all those verses? Why keep making my point, I personally think I would leave it at that, but continue to have at it, if you like....just trying to help.

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