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But, is it our place to separate the Wheat from the Tares?

Hint... Jesus actually answers this.


Tares are not born again Christians, but they are sons of the devil.

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:37-39


  • the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.



The sons of the kingdom, “wheat”, who hate, who do not keep His commandments, will be cast into outer darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.



And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:11-12





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Tares are not born again Christians, but they are sons of the devil.

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:37-39


  • the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.



The sons of the kingdom, “wheat”, who hate, who do not keep His commandments, will be cast into outer darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.



And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:11-12





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Matthew 13:30
 
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If you don’t post the scripture and context, we will not know.




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If people don’t want to hear, they won’t care if I post the full context anyhow. Those that do will look it up and search it out.
 
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If a Christians hates his brother, then he is a murderer, and no murderer has eternal life remaining within them.


He does even have to lay a finger on his brother, but hate him.




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On this, I agree, but “It is the Love of God that Constrains us.”

Love is the work of the Holy Spirit. That is a fruit from remaining in Jesus.

It is the Exodus 14:14 of the matter. We do not accomplish that, He does. It is a process that is bound to the Potter’s timing, not ours.

If you want me to say it, I will...

“Faith without Love is Dead”...

But, that is not a matter to be judged... that Love is God. (1 John 4:7-12). (1 John 2:27).

Salvational Logic And Mr. Bill
 
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Thanks brother Grip.

Let's start with the context of 1 CORINTHIANS 15 which is over the resurrection of JESUS from the dead 15v1-11. This is then followed with PAUL talking about some did not BELIEVE in the resurrection of the dead and Paul arguing that if that were true then their salvation is in vain and they are still in their sins and those which also sleep are also perished 15v12-19. Then Paul goes on to argue that Christ is risen from the dead as a type of first fruits from the dead and the end of death to those in Christ v20-26. Side note: this is a reference to the fulfillment of one of the annual feasts of the OLD COVENANT called the "Feasts of first fruits" that pointed to JESUS *EXODUS 23:14-17; 34:22; NUMBERS 28:25-26. From v27-28 God puts all things under Christ.

Paul continues arguing against those who do no believe in the resurrection in v29-33 pointing to baptism and no point in living a holy life if one believes this false teaching v32. Paul concludes this section encouraging those to continue to believe and awake to rightouesness and SIN NOT v34 pointing to those do not have the knowledge of God and continues arguing for the physical resurrection of the dead and the physical bodies that are made by God v35-41.

From v41-50 Paul likens the physical resurection from the dead to corruptible to incorruptible at resurrection and physical flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God and comparing those of Adam being earthly and those of the Lord being Heavenly. From v51-54 talks about the 2nd coming at the last trump the dead in Christ being raised from the dead and our bodies being changed wheather dead or alive from corruptible to incorruptible and immortality and the victory over death through the power of Christ. Now as can be seen above the CONTEXT of 1 CORINTHIANS 15 is the resurrection from the dead (Side note: Just for interest; the Saducees did not believe in the ressurection of the dead; ACTS 23:8).

Now with the above context established let's look at the scriptures..

1 CORINTHIANS 15:55-58
[55], O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your victory?

Paul is continuing the same thought arguing for the ressurrection from the dead that death cannot hold all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word (JESUS).

[56], The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

The wages of sin is death *ROMANS 6:23 and it is through God's LAW that we have the knowledge of what SIN is *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4.

[57], But thanks be to God, which gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

JESUS has given us the victory over sin and death (v56-57) *See also ROMANS 8:2

[58], Therefore, my beloved brothers, be you steadfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, for as much as you know that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

Paul closes by encouraging the BELIEVERS to continue in the faith beliving and following God's Word and not to be moved from the hope of eternal life and resurrection from the dead.

Hope you did not mind me establishing the context here. Sorry if it made the post a little long.

God bless brother :)

God Bless you, too :)

Galatians 4:30 ?

OSAS....= is Grace <~ Post 708?
 
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God Bless you, too :)
Galatians 4:30 ? OSAS....= is Grace <~ Post 708?
Hi again brother Grip, nice to see you. Is there a reason you would like a discussion on GALATIANS 4:30? Sorry I have been a little busy and have been also in some other sections of the forum. Did you know God wants to be our guide and teacher in the NEW COVENANT as we seek him through His Word *HEBREWS 8:11-12; JOHN 8:31-36; JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; JOHN 7:17?

God bless
 
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Hi again brother Grip, nice to see you. Is there a reason you would like a discussion on GALATIANS 4:30? Sorry I have been a little busy and have been also in some other sections of the forum. Did you know God wants to be our guide and teacher in the NEW COVENANT as we seek him through His Word *HEBREWS 8:11-12; JOHN 8:31-36; JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; JOHN 7:17?

God bless

Hello Brother @LoveGodsWord ,

The reason for Galatians 4:30 is it’s jarring implications. I wanted to see how you exegete it to ensure I understand your perspective clearly.
 
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Hello Brother @LoveGodsWord ,

The reason for Galatians 4:30 is it’s jarring implications. I wanted to see how you exegete it to ensure I understand your perspective clearly.

Jarring implications? How do you see it brother as jarring? Why do you say that and how do you read it? You do not need me brother to understand God's WORD when JESUS promises to send us His Spirit as we seek him and ask him. *HEBREWS 8:11-12; JOHN 8:31-36; JOHN 14:26; JOHN 16:13; JOHN 7:17
 
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Jarring implications? How do you see it brother as jarring? Why do you say that and how do you read it?

How I read it doesn’t matter. I am curious to how you read it. I will just say this... it is so intense that it rattles the Theological ground and explains many passages that were a mystery, before.

Paul levels what was known to that point to the very ground.
 
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How I read it doesn’t matter. I am curious to how you read it. I will just say this... it is so intense that it rattles the Theological ground and explains many passages that were a mystery, before. Paul levels what was known to that point to the very ground.

Well it does matter if your asking a genuine question or not. I do not understand why you think it is a jarring scripture or do I understand why you need me to be your teacher when God promises to guide and teach us as part of the NEW COVENANT promise. Be aware of the scripture brother "Cursed is the man that trusts in man and makes flesh his arm.. *JEREMIAH 17:5. You do not need me to be your teacher when JESUS wants to be yours.
 
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Well it does matter if your asking a genuine question or not. I do not understand why you think it is a jarring scripture or do I understand why you need me to be your teacher when God promises to guide and teach us as part of the NEW COVENANT promise. Be aware of the scripture brother "Cursed is the man that trusts in man and makes flesh his arm.. *JEREMIAH 17:5. You do not need me to be your teacher when JESUS wants to be yours.

Please tell me more about Jeremiah 17:5. I love what you have written. What does this mean to you?

1 John 2:27. Well spoken
 
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Please tell me more about Jeremiah 17:5. I love what you have written. What does this mean to you? 1 John 2:27. Well spoken

I think you know brother what it means as you posted a support scripture of 1 JOHN 2:27. What are your thoughts as God has shared with you? I have shared my view above.
 
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I think you know brother what it means as you posted a support scripture of 1 JOHN 2:27. What are your thoughts as God has shared with you? I have shared my view above.

At the core of it all... John 5:39-40 is all we need. That’s what it really all means to me.

I cherish the Scripture God has provided in totality... but I emphasize... John 5:38-40 is etched within my soul.
 
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At the core of it all... John 5:39-40 is all we need. That’s what it really all means to me.

I cherish the Scripture God has provided in totality... but I emphasize... John 5:38-40 is etched within my soul.

There you go see you do know. God has revealed this to you through his Word. You need no one teach you brother when JESUS promises to be your guide and teacher. :)
 
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There you go see you do know. God has revealed this to you through his Word. You need no one teach you brother when JESUS promises to be your guide and teacher. :)

Amen
 
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Matthew 13:30




Tares are not born again Christians, but they are sons of the devil.

He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:37-39


  • the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one.



The sons of the kingdom, “wheat”, who hate, who do not keep His commandments, will be cast into outer darkness, where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.



And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 8:11-12





JLB
 
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If people don’t want to hear, they won’t care if I post the full context anyhow. Those that do will look it up and search it out.


It would be nice to see that you consider us worth the time it takes to post the scripture, and point out the key word or phrase that you would like us to consider.




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On this, I agree, but “It is the Love of God that Constrains us.”


Would you please explain what you mean by this?


Are you saying the Love of God, stops us from sinning?


It’s up to each of us to obey the Spirit who dwells within us, to lead us in the way of love, righteousness and holiness.


Here is the biblical definition of the love of God.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3






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It would be nice to see that you consider us worth the time it takes to post the scripture, and point out the key word or phrase that you would like us to consider.




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I wouldn’t be posting if I thought otherwise. The site allows the scripture to be clicked and viewed literally in context.
 
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Would you please explain what you mean by this?


Are you saying the Love of God, stops us from sinning?


It’s up to each of us to obey the Spirit who dwells within us, to lead us in the way of love, righteousness and holiness.


Here is the biblical definition of the love of God.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3






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JLB, I am a sinful man that is only saved by the Grace and Love of Jesus.

I Love all human beings because of the enormous debt Jesus forgave me. The I share is a result of Jesus and nothing to do with my wretched, sinning flesh.
 
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