Oceans came from moon says new cult science

dad · May 22, 2019

" Scientists have now been able to show that water came to Earth with the formation of the moon.

...We have used molybdenum isotopes to answer this question. The molybdenum isotopes allow us to clearly distinguish carbonaceous and non-carbonaceous material

...The measurements made by the researchers from Münster show that the molybdenum isotopic composition of the Earth lies between those of the carbonaceous and non-carbonaceous meteorites, demonstrating that some of Earth's molybdenum originated in the outer solar system.

most of the molybdenum in Earth's mantle was supplied by the protoplanet Theia, whose collision with Earth 4.4 billion years ago led to the formation of the Moon. However, since a large part of the molybdenum in Earth's mantle originates from the outer solar system, this means that Theia itself also originated from the outer solar system."

Formation of the moon brought water to Earth: New research explains how Earth became a habitable planet

So to explain why some isotopes on earth appear to be from out of the solar system, we have a godless, elaborate, baseless fable devised here. Science in action, kids.

It occurs to me that Greek mythology is similar.

"In Greek mythology, Theia (/ˈθiːə/; Ancient Greek: Θεία, romanized: Theía, also rendered Thea or Thia), also called Euryphaessa "wide-shining", is a Titaness. Her brother/consort is Hyperion, a Titan and god of the sun, and together they are the parents of Helios (the Sun), Selene (the Moon), and Eos (the Dawn). "

Theia - Wikipedia

The Greeks had the parents of the sun and moon embodied as a goddess. Same spirit behind modern science!!! Amazing.

Proof some object hit the moon...ZERO

Did munster consider that the windows of heaven were once opened bring more water (isotopes) to earth from the far side of the universe? No. Or, that maybe Jesus created the earth (before anything existed outside the solar system) with stuff to be later found out there also? (once the stars and etc were put in the space out there) No etc etc

Their whole game it to conjure up godless fantasies with no proof to try and form a believable (for some) account of how God's creation got here. I call this demonic blasphemy, not science.

Dave-W · May 22, 2019

dad said:
Her brother/consort is Hyperion, a Titan and god of the sun,

From: Cantata: Iphigenia In Brooklyn, S. 53162
Composer: P.D.Q. Bach (Peter Schickele)
=========================
Aria: "As Hyperion across the flaming sky his chariot did ride, Iphigenia herself in Brooklyn found."

Recitative: "And lo, she found herself within a market, and all around her fish were dying; and yet their stench did live on."

Ground: "Dying, and yet in death alive."

Recitative: "And in a vision Iphigenia saw her brother Orestes, who was being chased by the Amenities; and he cried out in anguish: 'Oh ye gods, who knows what it is to be running? Only he who is running knows'."

Aria: "Running knows."

Jimmy D · May 22, 2019

dad said:
Their whole game it to conjure up godless fantasies with no proof to try and form a believable (for some) account of how God's creation got here. I call this demonic blasphemy, not science.

To be fair, it’s a better explanation than you offered..... at least it’s possible.

dad · May 22, 2019

Jimmy D said:
To be fair, it’s a better explanation than you offered..... at least it’s possible.

It is a scenario built belief upon foolish baseless belief, upon demonic evil inspired beliefs. I think God's account rocks and the fable pushed as science mocks.

Tanj · May 22, 2019

dad said:
It is a scenario built belief upon foolish baseless belief, upon demonic evil inspired beliefs. I think God's account rocks and the fable pushed as science mocks.

I think you spend an inordinate amount of time searching the internet for stuff you don't like. Why is that? I cannot think of a more depressing way to spend time.

dad · May 23, 2019

Tanj said:
I think you spend an inordinate amount of time searching the internet for stuff you don't like. Why is that? I cannot think of a more depressing way to spend time.

I think some people love lies and evolution and false science claims about creation based on squat, and have no clue why anyone would seek truth.

lifepsyop · May 23, 2019

Jimmy D said:
To be fair, it’s a better explanation than you offered..... at least it’s possible.

But it's not an explanation. It's literally science fiction. But this kind of nonsense is immediately and uncritically accepted because it conforms to a godless evolutionary narrative of blind billiard balls slamming each other around in space and somehow creating a perfect world for potential life where stardust can eventually blindly organize itself into humans who talk over the internet. It is an absolutely insane view of reality, propped up by people who desperately want to silence the little voice in the back of their head and escape the notion of judgment by a creator God.

Sidenote: It really is funny, evolutionists love to invoke baseless, unobservable, untestable mega-catastrophes to "explain" the origin of major planetary phenomena... yet they have to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit large scale catastrophism on earth itself even though the geological evidence is literally everywhere, not to mention testifed to by nearly every ancient culture all over the world.

Halbhh · May 23, 2019

Jimmy D said:
To be fair, it’s a better explanation than you offered..... at least it’s possible.

There are quite a lot of independent findings all related to formation and composition of various planetary bodies that are all now connecting, like a web. Quite a range. One notable piece is the recent discovery of how predominate water is in the planets generally, in the gas/ice giants. Also, interestingly I was just reading a connected article, as I'd read this one first:

https://phys.org/news/2019-05-formation-moon-brought-earth.html
and then:
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-saturn-satellites-earth-moon-phoebe.html

Here's the one about how predominate water is generally in planets:
Black, Hot Ice May Be Nature’s Most Common Form of Water
This one is pretty amazing, but does fit with well known astrophysics theory and observations in that oxygen is produce in massive quantities in dying stars, and so it is straightforward (in 20/20 hindsight) then that this abundant ejected oxygen would easily combine with abundant free hydrogen after the nova varieties, and wallah, water in stupendous quantity, as the norm, in the Universe.... Water is vastly more common than we knew a few years ago(!)....

Jimmy D · May 23, 2019

lifepsyop said:
But it's not an explanation. It's literally science fiction. But this kind of nonsense is immediately and uncritically accepted because it conforms to a godless evolutionary narrative of blind billiard balls slamming each other around in space and somehow creating a perfect world for potential life where stardust can eventually blindly organize itself into humans who talk over the internet. It is an absolutely insane view of reality, propped up by people who desperately want to silence the little voice in the back of their head and escape the notion of judgment by a creator God.

Sidenote: It really is funny, evolutionists love to invoke baseless, unobservable, untestable mega-catastrophes to "explain" the origin of major planetary phenomena... yet they have to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit large scale catastrophism on earth itself even though the geological evidence is literally everywhere, not to mention testifed to by nearly every ancient culture all over the world.

Sure, that's right, it's the voices in my head.

Where's that "irony meter" gif when I need it?

Halbhh · May 23, 2019

lifepsyop said:
But it's not an explanation. It's literally science fiction. But this kind of nonsense is immediately and uncritically accepted because it conforms to a godless evolutionary narrative of blind billiard balls slamming each other around in space and somehow creating a perfect world for potential life where stardust can eventually blindly organize itself into humans who talk over the internet. It is an absolutely insane view of reality, propped up by people who desperately want to silence the little voice in the back of their head and escape the notion of judgment by a creator God.

Sidenote: It really is funny, evolutionists love to invoke baseless, unobservable, untestable mega-catastrophes to "explain" the origin of major planetary phenomena... yet they have to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit large scale catastrophism on earth itself even though the geological evidence is literally everywhere, not to mention testifed to by nearly every ancient culture all over the world.

If someone convinced you that an old Earth would somehow disprove anything in the Bible, they made some error.

In scripture we only know the rough timeline by genealogy from after Adam and Eve left the Garden until Christ.

That's not the same as knowing how long the Garden lasted (with the Tree of Life, and God Himself for Whom time is nothing in the Garden....).

Nor is there anything in scripture that says how long passed during the Gen 1:1 creation of the Universe and of Earth, before the moment in Gen 1:2. Those are unknown amounts of time.

If someone claimed it's biblical that either of those times were short, they were wrong to claim that's a biblical idea. It's their guess.

The scripture doesn't say how long those times were because we do not need to know for the purpose of faith. Faith isn't to merely see or have proof, but instead faith is believing in what we cannot yet see.

If the Bible had told us the exact age of the Earth or the Universe (or the difference between the two, etc.) -- example: "...and the Heavens were 9 thousands of thousands of thousands of years old when the Earth was born..." (what the Bible intentionally does not tell us) -- and then science confirmed it, faith would be preempted, precluded.

That information in scripture would preempt and thus prevent faith.

You do not have faith that you have a car, but mere knowledge that you do. Knowledge isn't the same as faith. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of what we hope for and the certainty of what we do not see.

Easy proof would prevent faith from being available to happen. We'd merely have confirmed God, without having to have any faith.

But God wants us to trust without easy proof.

dad · May 23, 2019

Halbhh said:
There are quite a lot of independent findings all related to formation and composition of various planetary bodies that are all now connecting, like a web. Quite a range. One notable piece is the recent discovery of how predominate water is in the planets generally, in the gas/ice giants. Also, interestingly I was just reading a connected article, as I'd read this one first:

https://phys.org/news/2019-05-formation-moon-brought-earth.html
and then:
https://phys.org/news/2018-12-saturn-satellites-earth-moon-phoebe.html

Here's the one about how predominate water is generally in planets:
Black, Hot Ice May Be Nature’s Most Common Form of Water
This one is pretty amazing, but does fit with well known astrophysics theory and observations in that oxygen is produce in massive quantities in dying stars, and so it is straightforward (in 20/20 hindsight) then that this abundant ejected oxygen would easily combine with abundant free hydrogen after the nova varieties, and wallah, water in stupendous quantity, as the norm, in the Universe.... Water is vastly more common than we knew a few years ago(!)....

Fiction with no evidence.

Halbhh · May 23, 2019

dad said:
Fiction with no evidence.

Don't base your faith in sand, whatever you do. Only base faith the way Christ said: Matthew 7:24-27, and then you'll endure all storms.

dad · May 23, 2019

Halbhh said:
Don't base your faith in sand, whatever you do. Only base faith the way Christ said: Matthew 7:24-27, and then you'll endure all storms.

Thanks. Good news is that resting on His word rather than demon science is standing on the rock.

Halbhh · May 23, 2019

dad said:
Thanks. Good news is that resting on His word rather than demon science is standing on the rock.

Zero to do with science, either for or against. No connections of any kind. Just like with engineering, or farming techniques or machinery work...

The real 'rock'

--

24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

dad · May 23, 2019

Halbhh said:
Zero to do with science, either for or against. No connections of any kind. Just like with engineering, or farming techniques or machinery work...

The real 'rock' --

24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

Actually, looking at the things science gave us, like skyscrapers, pollution, cars, military hardware, womd, abortion, and lying creation fables opposing Scripture, I would say demon science is a very apt description. The real rock is the real creator. The shifting sands of demon science cannot support any house that will last.

Halbhh · May 23, 2019

dad said:
Actually, looking at the things science gave us, like skyscrapers, pollution, cars, military hardware, womd, abortion, and lying creation fables opposing Scripture, I would say demon science is a very apt description. The real rock is the real creator. The shifting sands of demon science cannot support any house that will last.

Christ says exactly what is "rock" that is a safe foundation. In Matthew 7:24-27

His words are the Truth, and you must trust Him.

Markstrimaran · May 23, 2019

Halbhh said:
Christ says exactly what is "rock" that is a safe foundation. In Matthew 7:24-27

His words are the Truth, and you must trust Him.

Amen. Following

Tanj · May 23, 2019

dad said:
I think some people love lies and evolution and false science claims about creation based on squat, and have no clue why anyone would seek truth.

Still not clear to me. Because other people do stuff you don't like you therefore search out the internet for stuff you don't like. Still seems a depressing past time.

dad · May 24, 2019

Halbhh said:
Christ says exactly what is "rock" that is a safe foundation. In Matthew 7:24-27

His words are the Truth, and you must trust Him.

He is the safe foundation and also happens to be the creator. Science lies.

dad · May 24, 2019

Tanj said:
Still not clear to me. Because other people do stuff you don't like you therefore search out the internet for stuff you don't like. Still seems a depressing past time.

Looking into the claims of science and the basis for them is not doing any such thing.

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