Do you think there is a corelation between these two veses?

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Genesis 7:24 And the waters prevailed on the earth 150 days.

Revelation 9:10 They have tails and stings like scorpions, and their power to hurt people for five months is in their tails. 11They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.
 

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Genesis 7:24 And the waters prevailed on the earth 150 days.

Revelation 9:10 They have tails and stings like scorpions, and their power to hurt people for five months is in their tails. 11They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.
The '150' is interesting, but I believe this is the correlation...

2 Peter 3:5-7 KJVS
[5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: [6] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: [7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
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Genesis 7:24 And the waters prevailed on the earth 150 days.

Revelation 9:10 They have tails and stings like scorpions, and their power to hurt people for five months is in their tails. 11They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.

You know, I always wondered, because if you go back in Revelation further (Revelation 9:3) they are called locusts

And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth

And John (the baptist) who later baptized with water is said to eat locusts and honey (in Mark 1:6) who was also conceived in Elizabeth who did hide herself for the same time (five months)


Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months

Sometimes you hit a home run when comparing in the most unlikely places and a thing come together for you.
 
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You know, I always wondered, because if you go back in Revelation further (Revelation 9:3) they are called locusts

And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth

And John (the baptist) who later baptized with water is said to eat locusts and honey (in Mark 1:6) who was also conceived in Elizabeth who did hide herself for the same time (five months)


Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months

Sometimes you hit a home run when comparing in the most unlikely places and a thing come together for you.
Were these not two different things, even though they are both called locust?
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You know, I always wondered, because if you go back in Revelation further (Revelation 9:3) they are called locusts

And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth

And John (the baptist) who later baptized with water is said to eat locusts and honey (in Mark 1:6) who was also conceived in Elizabeth who did hide herself for the same time (five months)


Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months

Sometimes you hit a home run when comparing in the most unlikely places and a thing come together for you.
That eating locusts verse reminds me of when Jesus said:

Luke 10:19
Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.

It’s like John eating locusts is symbolic of his overcoming evil in a way, I don’t know 100% for sure though but it could be a cool comparison.
 
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That eating locusts verse reminds me of when Jesus said:

Luke 10:19
Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.

It’s like John eating locusts is symbolic of his overcoming evil in a way, I don’t know 100% for sure though but it could be a cool comparison.

Yeah I totally agree

Rev 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

So one has power (as they are given power) just as it says, the scorpions of the earth have power, but power as it pertains to the same (which is given his disciples) over what appears as the same here (even given greater power as it pertains to them)

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Limited power, "thus far but no further"

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Only the men not sealed in their forehead (just as we would be sealed by the Holy Spirit) or who do not have the mind of Christ (or his name in their forehead) are they even allowed to hurt here. Which also agrees with Jesus words, who gave unto them the power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy and adds, "and nothing shall by any means hurt YOU"

All power is His, who commands the winds (even the four winds) just as the power given to the locusts (shown as being limited) just as he gives power to his disciples,(who asked, "who is this that the winds and waters obey Him?"). They have greater power.


Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

The rod is in his hand

Exodus 10:13 And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts.


And of these it says,

Exodus 10:14 And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such.

Exodus 10:15a For they covered the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened;

And what they did to all green things

Exodus 10:15b and they did eat every herb of the land, and all the fruit of the trees which the hail had left: and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt.

But with these it says,

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Nothing green is going to be hurt with these, only unsealed men

And again, in respects to what is hurt as it might pertain to the same, Jesus says

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Nothing shall hurt these (who are also the sealed of God). Then here compare

Duet 20:1 When thou goest out to battle against thine enemies, and seest horses, and chariots, and a people more than thou, be not afraid of them: for the LORD thy God [is] with thee, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

Shapes of horses, theres crowns and faces of men even as it says,

Isaiah 31:3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh,and not spirit.

Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

Even as it says here

Nah 3:17 Thy crowned are as the locusts,

Jerm 50:37 A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her; and they shall become as women: a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed.

Sounds like soy boys?

Rev 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

There are other verses, too many I keep folding them into the other and that helps but nothing where I can use them all at the same time yet.

 
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That eating locusts verse reminds me of when Jesus said:

Luke 10:19
Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.

It’s like John eating locusts is symbolic of his overcoming evil in a way, I don’t know 100% for sure though but it could be a cool comparison.

Also, another thing at the OP pointed out the time of water (which is also a figure) and Johns conception (where the one bearing him was hid for a time) was of the same times as the torment of men in Revelation. Like it even hints at us that somehow (in some way) they could be comparable and that there is more there then (at first meets the eye) when it comes to something meaningful being there between them.

I am always glad when someone else posts their hunches on things because you seem to later find out that others have the same things quickened to them as you have (but you just don't bring them forward).
 
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I wonder if those 150 days should be congruently observered during a single yr. Or observed as three Shavuot Shalom with three yrs..

Just a thought.
Since the flood was consecutively 150 days straight, I am going with its consistency in revelation.
 
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Genesis 7:24 And the waters prevailed on the earth 150 days.

Revelation 9:10 They have tails and stings like scorpions, and their power to hurt people for five months is in their tails. 11They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.

Sure, why not, but in what way?

Reminds me of the Scorpion fighter jets

".....Five scheduled flight tests in five different configurations over five flight days with 100% completion on time and target enabled the team to achieve “Ace” status, of sorts...."
 
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I wonder if those 150 days should be congruently observered during a single yr. Or observed as three Shavuot Shalom with three yrs..

Just a thought.


There is roughly 150 days from the beginning of the Gregorian calendar unto Shavout, then150 days latter there is ether the feast of tabernacles or the Ethiopian Jew's Pentecost (counting from the feast f trumpets?) I forget which it was off hand.
 
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There is roughly 150 days from the beginning of the Gregorian calendar unto Shavout, then150 days latter there is ether the feast of tabernacles or the Ethiopian Jew's Pentecost (counting from the feast f trumpets?) I forget which it was off hand.
I always thought the 150 day between feasts would be the answer.
 
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I always thought the 150 day between feasts would be the answer.
I agree, the seasons appear to be tied to the great and dreadful days.
 
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