Stars science say kicked out of galaxy actually coming in!

dad said:

I learn something you don't know anything about, and can't begin to teach or learn... truth. Your claim that time is not involved in geometry or that it is...was not supported. Despite having pointed out the fact time does exist here where one part of parallax measure always comes from...you simply wave and deny. Boring.

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You quit learning quite a while ago. Right now you appear to be petrified that you are wrong and shut down any thoughts that could show your rather odd beliefs, many of them which are not even biblical, are wrong. I understand math and know how time is not part of parallax. You refuse to learn why so it only looks like handwaving to you.

So, why are you so afraid?

dad said:

So you say. Yet you offered geometry as including time? Or maybe geometry devoid of time? Not sure how you figure time into the space here in the solar system where the base line for a parallax measure is taken?

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First thing that you have to do is learn how to pay attention. Time does not enter into the calculation for parallax.

dad said:

That depends on what time is, since you don't know what time is you have a real problem. To claim that a slice of our solar system used in a base line, for example, in a parallax measure is JUST space with no time also is wishful thinking. You are talking belief not knowledge.

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Once again dad, time is not used in parallax so it does not enter into the equation. You do not understand time at all. You do not understand how we can test the concept to see if it is the same here as elsewhere, that does not mean that others cannot. And as long as you are afraid to learn you can never understand how others can do this.

dad said:

Time is woven into the fabric of space here actual. You can't wave it away. Notice you are getting older? You can draw a line from a baby picture of yourself to a another picture from the present, and claim that no time was involved if you like. Too bad time is all around us and we cannot escape it eh? That includes, by the way in the area of space in the solar system where part of any parallax measure is taken from.

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Yes, scientists understand that. You do not. you have to deny the nature of time to make your arguments.

When you deny reality you can't use reality in your debates.

dad said:

The nature of time includes existing. Yet we cannot say it exists the same in far space. You take huge swaths of space in the solar system and try to use it a line representing only space. Fess up.

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Once again, you cannot say that. You refuse to learn. Why are you afraid to learn. Scientists have ways of testing their beliefs. They are not afraid to be shown to be wrong. If you refuse to test your beliefs you are trapped in being wrong and being afraid to learn.

The usual time fantasy that does not address the science that has been presented, e.g. the basic geometry of stellar parallax.
Use calendars and clocks here inside the Solar System and especially on Earth which is not part of a fantasy about time outside the solar system. Take measurements of the positions of stars behind a star. Wait 6 months. Repeat the measurements of the positions of those stars behind that star. The change in positions gives the distance to that star by the well known geometry of parallax.

2 items of empirical evidence showing time (and physics) is not extremely different outside of the Solar System and 18 (out of maybe millions) items of empirical evidence that time (and physics) is the same outside of the Solar System as it is inside

dad said:

We now know time is part of geometry apparently!

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Not apparently, in real textbooks!
Spacetime is a geometry with 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time
Minkowski space (or spacetime) is a geometrical space with 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time.
Euclidean space is geometrical spaces with 2, 3 or more dimensions where in modern physics it is usual to have 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time.

Four-dimensional space

Lagrange wrote in his Mécanique analytique (published 1788, based on work done around 1755) that mechanics can be viewed as operating in a four-dimensional space — three dimensions of space, and one of time

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dad said:

So stars exist so time must be the same out there eh?

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A lying question as I hove stated many times that it is stars acting as we predict that shows that time passes at the same rate there, e.g. the rate of fusion needed to form stable stars.

That stars exist just gives 2 items of empirical evidence showing time (and physics) is not extremely different outside of the Solar System and then there are 18 (out of maybe millions) items of empirical evidence that time (and physics) is the same outside of the Solar System as it is inside

Little to do with what I wrote: The usual time fantasy that does not address the science that has been presented, e.g. the basic geometry of stellar parallax (stellar parallax only depends on time inside the solar system and that time fantasy is about time outside the solar system).

A bit of "fishbowl" nonsense. Spacetime is mathematics that stems of Euclid's work thousands of years ago. It is based on mathematical logic. Take a set of axioms and explore what they mean. GR uses an extension of Euclidean mathematics to curved spacetime.

GR matches the real world outside the solar system, e.g. gravitational waves from merging black holes and neutron stars. A fantasy about time outside of the solar system is wrong to begin with because it onyx exists inside 1 person's head. He has not produced any evidence to support that fantasy. The fact that we detect gravitational waves the match physics developed inside the solar system makes the fantasy totally wrong.

That is 2 of the 18 (out of maybe millions) items of empirical evidence that time (and physics) is the same outside of the Solar System as it is inside. Those 2 items are a bit out of date. With the latest upgrade to LIGO and more telescopes coming online it is expected to detected a merger a week or so.

dad said:

"A team of astronomers using the latest set of data from ESA's Gaia mission to look for high-velocity stars being kicked out of the Milky Way were surprised to find stars instead sprinting inwards.."

Gaia spots stars flying between galaxies

These fable producers don't know what is coming or going and continue to make stuff up.

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Awesome funny user avatar.
This reminds me of another time an outer space nature discovery surprised secular scientists.
Jupiter's south pole as seen by JUNO mission.
The scientists predicted a boring grey circle.
What they found instead were awesome, beautiful blue swirls.

I have a thought: Just because secular scientists are wrong about some things, or even most things, does not mean they are wrong about everything.
Maybe try having a slightly more open mind?

Just say'n.

The Transcendentian said:

Awesome funny user avatar.
This reminds me of another time an outer space nature discovery surprised secular scientists.
Jupiter's south pole as seen by JUNO mission.
The scientists predicted a boring grey circle.
What they found instead were awesome, beautiful blue swirls.

I have a thought: Just because secular scientists are wrong about some things, or even most things, does not mean they are wrong about everything.
Maybe try having a slightly more open mind?

Just say'n.

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That's the point... we're free to change our mind as new evidence is discovered.

Unfortunately, you still have to believe the Flintstones is a documentary.