Eve came from Adam, evolution does not allow this

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No. I believe in creation and all adapting or evolving was after that.

Ok, Here's the problem, evolving from what?

Each other?

into what?

If the bible is correct, and I believe every word, then this earth is no more then 7 to 8 thousand years old. Why cant others just believe Gods power to create us like he wanted.

The only change was sin according to the bible.
 
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If the bible is correct, and I believe every word, then...

Do you believe that pí = 3, that you think with your kidneys or that stars fall to Earth?

Also, which version of doctrine you take from synoptic gospels, the one you like the most?

Also, which translation do you use that you believe every word in it?

Also, which NT Greek source text do you believe has every Greek word right?

Also, which OT text has every word right, the Greek Septuagint used by the apostles or Jewish masoretic text? If the Septuagint, which version or manuscript of it?

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Your statement of belief is very difficult to even grasp, regarding the facts.
 
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Do you believe that pí = 3, that you think with your kidneys or that stars fall to Earth?

Also, which version of doctrine you take from synoptic gospels, the one you like the most?

Also, which translation do you use that you believe every word in it?

Also, which NT Greek source text do you believe has every Greek word right?

Also, which OT text has every word right, the Greek Septuagint used by the apostles or Jewish masoretic text? If the Septuagint, which version or manuscript of it?

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Your statement of belief is very difficult to even grasp, regarding the facts.

No its not, the bible reads word for word, I use no interpretations from any one.

There is no need to interpret 6 days and the 7th day God rested.

There is no need to interpret The time line written from there own genealogy.

So is there another translation you use to tell you evolution is real?

If not your explanation is not valid.
 
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No its not, the bible reads word for word, I use no interpretations from any one.

There is no need to interpret 6 days and the 7th day God rested.

There is no need to interpret The time line written from there own genealogy.

So is there another translation you use to tell you evolution is real?

If not your explanation is not valid.
Can you answer my questions?
 
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Because all through the bible the fact that God formed us as a deliberate one time act is clear.

Ps 119:73 - Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments.

"In Genesis 1:27 we are told that God created man. The verb to create is the Hebrew bara. In Genesis 2:7 the Bible says God formed man (Hebrew asah). Since both of these verses speak of God creating man, we find that man was both created and formed. God created Adam by using pre-existing material. The word translated form is used in Scripture of the work of a potter forming his clay. "
How Was Adam Created?



Man can't destroy the universe, relax.
Why can't a vase form itself over great time?



He has holes in His hands as we speak actually.


Better to believe what God says, and the prophets and apostles and holy men of God through ages, than to ADD flights of godless fancy to Scripture I would think.


The creation of all things was not about you actually. We can include you, but it is not all about you or your supposed relationship with some god that can't create His way out of a paper bag.
To get deeper meanings we first need to get the actual meanings.

Clear to those who don't read it properly, sure. There are many who think they understand 'clearly' who clearly do not understand.

Because all through the bible the fact that God formed us as a deliberate one time act is clear.

Ps 119:73 - Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments

And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Gen.1:25-26.

The hebrew word used for 'make' which is used of 'mankind', (not a person with the Hebrew name of Adam), is very broad in meaning. It does not specifically state that God made Adam at the end of the sixth day of the creation. The era, (or timespan of creation), referred to in the text as the sixth and final day, culminating in the completion of all that was created, saw the creation first of 'beasts of the earth', 'livestock', 'creeping things', etc. Mankind's ancester could have been among them. Evolution theorises that mankind is descended from an extinct common ancestor, shared by us and the other primates, which have many of our distinctive features, but not anything comparable to our advanced ability to understand our own and others existence, make predictions and to manage our environment.

That intelligence, plus advanced reasoning and emotional abilities set us apart from all other creatures 'created on the sixth day'. It is quite possible that God took 'mankind's primal ancestors' and endowed upon them the attributes of God's own character. (Made man in God's own image), and the method God has used may be what we and nonbelievers call evolution. 'Made' does not therefore mean that God physically and literally created from dirt a creature called 'Man', i.e. the person Adam, but that God took the creature God had already named 'man' and advanced us by bestowing upon us and offering and granting us the privellidge of becoming God's, bearing God's immage, after God's likeness.

Jesus hinted at such himself.

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? John 10:34-36.

Jesus was the Son of God, but God did not 'create' him or make him. We are likewise going to be conformed and transformed into the image of Christ. Rom.8:29, Rom.12:2, 1 Cor.15:52. Being made like Christ is not a matter of coming into physical exisence, it is a matter of being 'changed' from what we used to be, into what God has decided we should be like. THAT is what it means when Genesis says we are 'made' in the image and likeness of God.

'Make' Let us make man in our image, after our likeness
h6213. עָשָׂה ‘âśâ; a primitive root; to do or make, in the broadest sense and widest application (as follows): — accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, x certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress(-ed), (put in) execute(-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, (fight-)ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfill, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ((a feast)), x indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure...
 
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If the bible is correct, and I believe every word, then this earth is no more then 7 to 8 thousand years old. Why cant others just believe Gods power to create us like he wanted.

The proposed number of years earth has with this theory seems like a close approximation to number of brain cells of people believing it.
 
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The proposed number of years earth has with this theory seems like a close approximation to number of brain cells of people believing it.

Insults never won any argument, you will loose every time making your self look dumb.

You are doubting how powerful God is and also you are calling the bible a lie.
 
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So what is the current explanation why He made everything to look and test billions of years old ?

You mean the man made fake testing they do?

You mean people who do not believe in God doing tests?

You do know people lie right?

You do know I can say I did a test in my home on my computer that proves 100 percent that the earth is 7000 years old ?

And the earth does not look millions of years old.
 
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Romans 1:16-24 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek. For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”a

God's Wrath against Sin
(Jeremiah 6:10-21; Jeremiah 25:15-33; Jonah 1:4-10; Acts 27:13-26)

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness & unrighteousness of men, who SUPPRESS THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; because that which may be known of God is manifest IN THEM; for God has SHOWED IT TO THEM. For the invisible things of Him SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD ARE CLEARLY SEEN, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power & Godhead; SO THAT THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE. Because, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became VAIN IN THEIR IMAGINATIONS & their foolish heart was DARKENED. Professing THEMSELVES to be wise, they became fools & changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man & to birds & fourfooted beasts & creeping things.

24Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves; who CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE & worshipped & served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Jesus believed Adam & Eve, the first man & first woman were CREATED in the beginning. He should know. He is the Creator! They didn't evolve--from slime plus chance from nothing. The Apostle Paul believed it & taught it.

The problem since the beginning is that people suppress the truth in their unrighteousness & change the truth of God into a lie & serve the created world & man's vain philosophies based on darkened understanding. Their are those who believe Jesus & what He taught & the Scriptures vs those who mock & ridicule those who do so.

God makes it evident to each & every person both within them & through creation outwardly, that He is the Creator of all things, just as He has truthfully described it. That is why the wrath of God is coming on those who do the above things.

Romans 3:3-6 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true & every human being a liar. As it is written:
“So that You may be proved right when You speak & prevail when You judge.”

5But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing His wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world?

Acts 17:22-31 Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus & said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very RELIGIOUS. For as I walked around & looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are IGNORANT of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.

24“The God WHO MADE THE WORLD & EVERYTHING IN IT IS THE LORD OF HEAVEN & EARTH & does not live in temples built by human hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if He needed anything. Rather, He himself gives everyone life & breath & everything else.

26FROM ONE MAN HE MADE ALL THE NATIONS, that they should inhabit the whole earth; & He marked out their APPOINTED TIMES IN HISTORY & the boundaries of their lands. God did this so that they would seek Him & perhaps reach out for Him & Him, though He is not far from any one of us. 'For in Him we live & move & have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are His offspring.’

29“Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the Divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design & skill. In the past God OVERLOOKED SUCH IGNORANCE, but NOW He commands all people everywhere to REPENT. For He has set a day when He will judge the world with justice by the Man He has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising Him from the dead.”
 
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You do know I can say I did a test in my home on my computer that proves 100 percent that the earth is 7000 years old ?

Which scientific, repeatable and falsifiable measurement gives the age of the Universe or of the planet to be 7,000 years?
 
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Which scientific, repeatable and falsifiable measurement gives the age of the Universe or of the planet to be 7,000 years?

Which scientific, repeatable and falsifiable measurement gives the age of the Universe to be million of years old?

There is none, its fake.
 
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Which scientific, repeatable and falsifiable measurement gives the age of the Universe to be million of years old?

There is none, its fake.
You are never able to answer any question, you only dodge them.

Your behavior is dishonest.
 
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