Can a rape victim determine the value of their unborn child?

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Why do you insist on making this comparison? If it is allowed under CF rules, I would change the COC.
Yahuweh , in Scripture(His Word) , says clearly not to add to His Word, and not to take away from His Word.
 
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I can imagine that there are. However, the majority of abortions are done by killing the fetus then cutting it up and vacuuming it out.

I searched on Google but, surprise surprise... they don't go into detail after giving the name of the procedure and describing what is injected into the uterus to kill the child... it ends there... Wonder why?

Because it's morbid.

I found many images and posted a few yesterday from doing a Google image search. Can't remember the exact search terms I used though.
 
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What did you mean by wanting to change the COC? What is COC?

Code of Conduct. I was telling someone CF should prohibit any mention of someone being stabbed like he did. That has nothing to do with the Bible or even Christianity.
 
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I didn't see anyone 'stabbed', but haven't read all the posts either.

God forbids 'stabbing' someone, no matter how old they are, or even if they are born yet.

p.s. found one post:
Not comparable. You can allow someone to die by not giving them your kidney. You can't purposefully stab them with a knife. The difference is allowing someone to die as a natural course of their illness without giving your kidney to them, while abortion is purposefully taking the life of a human being.
 
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I didn't see anyone 'stabbed', but haven't read all the posts either.

God forbids 'stabbing' someone, no matter how old they are, or even if they are born yet.

p.s. found one post:

Probably referring to post #206.
 
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I recommend closure of this thread.
Why would you recommend that? Is the graphic truth of abortion to remain hidden? It's up to the mods and the OP to close a thread.

Abortion is a morbid, immoral, anti Christian, unbiblical action. The fact that so many are fighting to keep the right for abortion says a lot about the state of this world.
 
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Why would you recommend that? Is the graphic truth of abortion to remain hidden? It's up to the mods and the OP to close a thread.

Abortion is a morbid, immoral, anti Christian, unbiblical action. The fact that so many are fighting to keep the right for abortion says a lot about the state of this world.

Ooooops. I assume you mean un-Christian.

To set the record straight: I do not support any "convenience" abortions apart from rape and incest cases (which I have explained many times is much more than that). However, I also do not support forcing any woman to feel like she must die to obey the government. The mother's health needs to include more than medical emergencies.
 
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Ooooops. I assume you mean un-Christian.

To set the record straight: I do not support any "convenience" abortions apart from rape and incest cases (which I have explained many times is much more than that). However, I also do not support forcing any woman to feel like she must die to obey the government. The mother's health needs to include more than medical emergencies.
No, I meant "anti"

an·ti-Chris·tian
/ˌan(t)ēˈkrisCHən/

adjective
  • 1. opposed to Christianity or Christian values.
And, even after a rape or incest, abortion is a "convenience" for the mother. This has been shown many times with the children conceived in these ways being a great benefit to society.

Also, I don't think that too many people would say a woman must die. There are medical interventions that would do all that they could to save both mother and child. In these very rare exceptions, the mother would come first. Not out of "not wanting the child" but as a last resort.

Society is not arguing for this. They want the mother to have full choice in keeping or ending the life of the child that they are carrying.

It is just one cog in the wheel of going against the world that God created and said "it is good".
 
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So, at what point does it get it's rights?

Obviously when it is born, according to at least one poster.

Of course the truth is fetuses get their rights when they are viable, long before birth.
 
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No babies are cut into bits and thrown in a canister.

Yes they are and in fact aborted babies get cut up and parsed out to other facilities which was in a documentary. Abortion is murder, period. Your ideas are no different than Hitlers, hey let's kill these or that people because they are not viable or the others because we deem them not human yet. Disgusting!
 
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Abortion is not murder. It is not simply because it is legal. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Moreover the Bible never addresses the question of abortion even though it was rife in ancient times because foetuses were considered a part of the mother.
 
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