When Demons / Fallen Angels Appear As People (Very Interesting Video)

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Demons usually appear as false prophets, teachers, and those to do false signs and wonders (or pretend to do them in order to deceive people so that the money keeps rolling in).
 
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Demons that do appear will be in whatever form is necessary to carry out their deception. I've heard more stories of demons that appear as angels (or Saints) ... which is directly mentioned in Scripture. But just as Holy angels could appear as a person without us knowing, so too could a demon (since they are really fallen angels). Animals wouldn't surprise me either.
 
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Sometimes I wonder if they try to doppelgänger around the Churches to confuse people or cause problems.
The thing about demons is that they are spirits without bodies. We saw this when Jesus cast the legion of demons out of the man in the graveyard, that they asked to go into the herd of pigs. So, demon activity is more detected in the behaviour and conduct of people, and when that happens in churches it certainly can confuse people and cause problems.
 
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Animals wouldn't surprise me either.

Demon Great White Shark - ouch.

There's a telephone pole on my street that I personally regard as suspicious.
 
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The thing about demons is that they are spirits without bodies. We saw this when Jesus cast the legion of demons out of the man in the graveyard, that they asked to go into the herd of pigs. So, demon activity is more detected in the behaviour and conduct of people, and when that happens in churches it certainly can confuse people and cause problems.


Couldn't a Fallen Angel appear as a man though kind of like Holy Angels can ?
 
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Demon Great White Shark - ouch.

There's a telephone pole on my street that I personally regard as suspicious.
Ha! When I mentioned animals, I was tempted to mention a tomcat and a he-goat I've known, but thought it might be too silly for what was essentially a serious post. ;)
 
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Couldn't a Fallen Angel appear as a man though kind of like Holy Angels can ?
It could.


I think what @Oscarr is describing is more like demonic influence (which could extend to possession) of human persons. Rather than a demon actually impersonating a person (such as false teachers, etc.). In the case of an impersonation, it would be relatively short-lived.
 
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It could.


I think what @Oscarr is describing is more like demonic influence (which could extend to possession) of human persons. Rather than a demon actually impersonating a person (such as false teachers, etc.). In the case of an impersonation, it would be relatively short-lived.


Forgive me, I think I didn't say that clearly. What I meant is that if we see a person, over time, who appears to be creating delusion, sowing discord, doing evil things, etc. ... we can expect that is a human person who may be under some influence by demons (which they are always attempting to influence pretty much all of humanity), and influence can extend to possession.

But when a demon actually manifests AS a person, just as in the case of when it might happen that a Holy Angel may appear as a person - it would be of short time - someone who just shows up but also leaves/disappears.

The situation described in the video complicates matters, because the demon was masquerading as a person known to the girl, so it wouldn't SEEM to be of short duration.

They will deceive us in any way they can.
 
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Ha! When I mentioned animals, I was tempted to mention a tomcat and a he-goat I've known, but thought it might be too silly for what was essentially a serious post. ;)

Wow. I just watched the video, that was pretty intense. A specific doppleganger.
 
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Couldn't a Fallen Angel appear as a man though kind of like Holy Angels can ?
There doesn't seem to be any reference in the OT or the NT where this has actually happened. People have had visions of both, but no actual physical appearances. If we are saying that fallen angels are demons, then as a spirit without a body, a demon has to inhabit a body to work through a physical appearance. But perhaps others may provide more useful information.
 
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It could.


I think what @Oscarr is describing is more like demonic influence (which could extend to possession) of human persons. Rather than a demon actually impersonating a person (such as false teachers, etc.). In the case of an impersonation, it would be relatively short-lived.
I understand. I wasn't meaning impersonation, but more of influence or obsession to teach doctrines that the Scripture describes as "doctrines of demons".
 
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There doesn't seem to be any reference in the OT or the NT where this has actually happened. People have had visions of both, but no actual physical appearances. If we are saying that fallen angels are demons, then as a spirit without a body, a demon has to inhabit a body to work through a physical appearance. But perhaps others may provide more useful information.
Not examples of demons doing this in Scripture (that I can recall), but Scripture speaks of Holy Angels appearing as men.

It shouldn't be surprising in that case that fallen angels could do the same.

I understand. I wasn't meaning impersonation, but more of influence or obsession to teach doctrines that the Scripture describes as "doctrines of demons".

Right, that's what I thought you were talking about, simply demons influencing people. The OP was about impersonation.

Angels do not have physical bodies such as we have, that is true. But they can still manipulate (interact with) physical aspects in the world, and they can also be seen if God wills it.
 
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A Quote from Fr. Seraphim Rose's Book : "Orthodoxy and the religion of the Future"

Orthodoxy and the religion of the Future - иеромонах Серафим (Роуз)


A demonic “kidnapping” quite close to UFO “abductions” is described in the Life of St. Nilus of Sora, the 15th-century founder of Skete life in Russia. Some time after the Saint’s death there lived in his monastery a certain priest with his son. Once, when the boy was sent on some errand, suddenly there came to him a certain strange man who seized him and carried him, as if on the wind, into an impenetrable forest, bringing him into a large room in his dwelling and placing him in the middle of this cabin, in front of the window. When the priest and the monks prayed for St. Nilus’ help in finding the lost boy, the Saint “came to the boy’s aid and stood before the room where the boy was standing, and when he struck the window-frame with his staff the building was shaken and all The Unclean Spirits fell to the earth.The Saint told The Demon to return the boy to the place from which he had taken him, and then became invisible. Then, after some howling among the Demons, “The Same Strange One seized the boy and brought him to the Skete like the wind... and placing him on a haystack, He became invisible.” After being seen by the monks, “the boy told them everything that happened to him, what he had seen and heard. And from that time this boy became very humble, as if he had been stupefied. The priest out of terror left the Skete with his son.”
(Chapter 6)



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A Quote from Fr. Seraphim Rose's Book : "Orthodoxy and the religion of the Future"

Orthodoxy and the religion of the Future - иеромонах Серафим (Роуз)


A demonic “kidnapping” quite close to UFO “abductions” is described in the Life of St. Nilus of Sora, the 15th-century founder of Skete life in Russia. Some time after the Saint’s death there lived in his monastery a certain priest with his son. Once, when the boy was sent on some errand, suddenly there came to him a certain strange man who seized him and carried him, as if on the wind, into an impenetrable forest, bringing him into a large room in his dwelling and placing him in the middle of this cabin, in front of the window. When the priest and the monks prayed for St. Nilus’ help in finding the lost boy, the Saint “came to the boy’s aid and stood before the room where the boy was standing, and when he struck the window-frame with his staff the building was shaken and all The Unclean Spirits fell to the earth.The Saint told The Demon to return the boy to the place from which he had taken him, and then became invisible. Then, after some howling among the Demons, “The Same Strange One seized the boy and brought him to the Skete like the wind... and placing him on a haystack, He became invisible.” After being seen by the monks, “the boy told them everything that happened to him, what he had seen and heard. And from that time this boy became very humble, as if he had been stupefied. The priest out of terror left the Skete with his son.”
(Chapter 6)



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Never heard of that story.

I wonder if it explains something I've heard hinted at. I haven't asked here (that I remember) because ... well, it puts me in mind of trying to verify gossip and it seemed better to let it go.

I have heard that Fr Seraphim Rose had strange teachings about UFOs and/or aliens ... seems like some folks think he believed in them and taught about them? Seems odd from an Orthodox pov. But I just dismissed it. I wonder if such things like this have confused people?

I wonder what the book overall is about? I've avoided Fr Seraphim early on, since my priest at first told me to, but later he blessed me to read whatever I want several years ago. Since then I've only read "the Soul after Desth" from among Fr Seraphim's writings though.
 
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Never heard of that story.

I wonder if it explains something I've heard hinted at. I haven't asked here (that I remember) because ... well, it puts me in mind of trying to verify gossip and it seemed better to let it go.

I have heard that Fr Seraphim Rose had strange teachings about UFOs and/or aliens ... seems like some folks think he believed in them and taught about them? Seems odd from an Orthodox pov. But I just dismissed it. I wonder if such things like this have confused people?

I wonder what the book overall is about? I've avoided Fr Seraphim early on, since my priest at first told me to, but later he blessed me to read whatever I want several years ago. Since then I've only read "the Soul after Desth" from among Fr Seraphim's writings though.


Yeah, the conclusion is that "space aliens" are really just demons / fallen angels.

Here's a quote from the site written by Archbishop Chrysostomos of Etna that makes reference to Father Seraphim Rose' book "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future" :

Alien Abductions and the Orthodox Christian


"It is worthy of note that the late Father Seraphim Rose, in his book Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future (Platina, CA: Saint Herman of Alaska Brotherhood, 1990; Revised Edition), has also examined the phenomenon of alien visitations to earth from an Orthodox standpoint. He devotes an entire chapter of this work, "‘Signs from Heaven:’ An Orthodox Christian Understanding of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs)," to the true nature and meaning of alien contacts with human beings. Though Father Seraphim, at a superficial level, approaches this matter in a way reminiscent of Protestant fundamentalistic thinking, and while his materials are dated and center only on more sensationalistic abduction reports—deficits compounded by the fact that some of the authorities whom he cites are clearly on the fringes of science—, his deeper analysis of the phenomenon is ingenious and supports much of what I have suggested about alien encounters with humans. He also observes that the aliens in contemporary abduction reports are similar in appearance to the demons which, for centuries, have been described in Orthodox literature (p. 134). In fact, he recounts two cases of demonic "kidnappings" in fifteenth- and nineteenth-century Russia that, in Father Seraphim’s words, are "quite close to UFO ‘abductions’" today (pp. 136-137). It is his conclusion that classical demonic possession, known to the Orthodox Church for centuries, accounts for the alien abductions that we see in modern times and that "...modern men, for all their proud ‘enlightenment’ and ‘wisdom,’ are becoming once more aware of such experiences—but no longer have the Christian framework with which to explain them" (p. 137). This conclusion perfectly reflects what I have said about alien abductions and how they should be understood and viewed by the Orthodox Christian."

Alien Abductions and the Orthodox Christian


 
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