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Hi 1CL,

It means that this isn't about anything found in the International Version of the Scriptures, whatever that even is, I assume that you're referring to the NIV (New International Version), but about an organization called the International Standards Organization whose work is to come up with and decide what are international standards of things. Like computer languages and measurements and sizes that are to be considered the 'standard' to be used worldwide so that products and ideas mesh together worldwide and we don't have 15 different sizes of a dress around the world that says 'size 10'. Or that different computer interfaces will work together because all the protocols and such are standardized.

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International Standard Version (ISV) It is a fairly new version of the Bible.
 
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Hi YH,

Yes, but no matter how you count it out, or what you consider to be worthy of counting as a 'day', you can only get two nights out of it. Friday from dusk to dawn and Saturday from dusk to dawn. Jesus had said that, like Jonah, the Son of Man would be three days and three nights in the earth.

Now, that only leaves a couple of ways that can be. Jesus wasn't correct. The Scriptures are not correct. Our dating is not correct. Personally, I go with man being responsible for the error.

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Take into consideration that the preparation day was for a high Sabbath, not necessarily the weekly Sabbath.

John 19:31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

He died on Passover, the next day was feast of Unleavened Bread.
 
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Take into consideration that the preparation day was for a high Sabbath, not necessarily the weekly Sabbath.
The high day fell on the weekly Sabbath. The expression "high Sabbath" is made up, you won't find it anywhere in Scripture. Food could still be prepared on "high days", so there was no day of preparation unless it fell on the Sabbath.
 
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International Standard Version (ISV) It is a fairly new version of the Bible.

Hi 1stCL,

Thanks for that. That's something that I learned today. None of my Scripture resources even list that version, but I did google it and found that there is such a version that was created in 2011.

God bless,
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Matthew 12:40 - "For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights."
Thus it makes sense that he was killed and buried on Thursday (which also squares with the scriptures about them going to break their legs to kill them so they could take them down before passover, but Jesus had already died)...
So, three nights in the grave might be an easier way for you to grasp what I am saying, Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night. If he rose on Sunday, he was not in the grave Sunday night.
Are you capable of even considering that it could be you who is wrong? If not, please consider your pride. God is the only one who knows and understands all. But it seems to me, too many people care aboat appearing to be right, even if they are wrong, more than they care about what is actually true.
 
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Synecdoche! Look it up.
Oh brother. I think you just made my point about people wanting to appear to be right.
All my thinking and reasoning is based on the Word; not what some rabbi or some preacher says.
 
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Oh brother. I think you just made my point about people wanting to appear to be right.
All my thinking and reasoning is based on the Word; not what some rabbi or some preacher says.

And the Word proves you wrong. Read the scripture regarding the witnesses on the road to Emmaus...
 
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Matthew 12:40 - "For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights."
Thus it makes sense that he was killed and buried on Thursday (which also squares with the scriptures about them going to break their legs to kill them so they could take them down before passover, but Jesus had already died)...
So, three nights in the grave might be an easier way for you to grasp what I am saying, Thursday night, Friday night, and Saturday night. If he rose on Sunday, he was not in the grave Sunday night.
Are you capable of even considering that it could be you who is wrong? If not, please consider your pride. God is the only one who knows and understands all. But it seems to me, too many people care aboat appearing to be right, even if they are wrong, more than they care about what is actually true.

What day was Passover? What day was man created? What day was He destroyed?
 
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rose on Sunday, thus he was no longer in the grave. Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, buried, rose on Sunday

Anytime AFTER sunset on Saturday IS Sunday
 
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Take into consideration that the preparation day was for a high Sabbath, not necessarily the weekly Sabbath.

John 19:31 Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

He died on Passover, the next day was feast of Unleavened Bread.

It does not say that "high day" was a Sabbath...it says that (weekly) Sabbath was also a high day (Saturday the 15th). The preparation day is always Friday (Erev Shabbat).
 
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The high day fell on the weekly Sabbath. The expression "high Sabbath" is made up, you won't find it anywhere in Scripture. Food could still be prepared on "high days", so there was no day of preparation unless it fell on the Sabbath.

Who made it up?
 
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It does not say that "high day" was a Sabbath...it says that (weekly) Sabbath was also a high day (Saturday the 15th). The preparation day is always Friday (Erev Shabbat).

The 15th wasn't necessarily the weekly Sabbath. Any holy convocation that stops working is a sabbath (rest).

5 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread. 7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it. 8 But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’
 
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The 15th wasn't necessarily the weekly Sabbath. Any holy convocation that stops working is a sabbath (rest).

5 On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread. 7 On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it. 8 But you shall offer an offering made by fire to the Lord for seven days. The seventh day shall be a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.’

Yet you can still cook on that day but you can do no servile work on Shabbat. What you bolded is the 7th day of the festival. The first day of unleavened is the 15th.
 
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The 15th wasn't necessarily the weekly Sabbath. Any holy convocation that stops working is a sabbath (rest).

The first day of unleavened is the 15th. On THAT WEEKLY Sabbath, also the 15th, it was also a "high day", the first of unleavened.
 
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Oh brother. I think you just made my point about people wanting to appear to be right.
All my thinking and reasoning is based on the Word; not what some rabbi or some preacher says.
If your thinking and reasoning was based on the Word, you would not be having Jesus rise on the 4th day instead of the 3rd day as Scripture states multiple times.

The Rabbi quoted is not a Christian, doesn't concern himself with the New Testament, so doesn't have a dog in this fight. His quote is to demonstrate how the Jews would have understood the expression "3 days and 3 nights" and why they would have found it completely congruent with the expressions "in 3 days" and "on the 3rd day".

Friday evening is a part of an onah which is as the whole, so one day and one night.
Saturday morning and evening is the whole, so two days and two nights.
Sunday morning is a part of an onah which is as the whole, so three days and three nights.
 
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If your thinking and reasoning was based on the Word, you would not be having Jesus rise on the 4th day instead of the 3rd day as Scripture states multiple times.

The Rabbi quoted is not a Christian, doesn't concern himself with the New Testament, so doesn't have a dog in this fight. His quote is to demonstrate how the Jews would have understood the expression "3 days and 3 nights" and why they would have found it completely congruent with the expressions "in 3 days" and "on the 3rd day".

Friday evening is a part of an onah which is as the whole, so one day and one night.
Saturday morning and evening is the whole, so two days and two nights.
Sunday morning is a part of an onah which is as the whole, so three days and three nights.

Agreed. Prodromos, He was a Rabbi in the 1st Century and His teachers would have been contemporaries of Yeshua. :) Also, regarding the onah in question, He was in the tomb on Friday afternoon BEFORE sunset, so the count would start there and He rose AFTER sunset so that would already be Sunday. So Friday, Saturday and Sunday...3 days...on the 3rd day... :)
 
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