Did that sinner's prayer save me? Poll

Was I saved by saying the sinner's prayer?

  • Yes

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  • No

    Votes: 10 66.7%
  • Hard to tell exactly when I was saved?

    Votes: 2 13.3%

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Washer is a good preacher that makes people doubt their salvation. Sometimes this is good, other times I think it can be demonic. When I truly trusted Jesus my fate was sealed, can't tell you specifically when this happened. But Jesus is Lord, is God, and is mine (and I am his). All I know is I'm trusting him now. And that is all I need.
 
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I personally believe Paul Washer teaches much false doctrine. The only thing I can say while describing how I feel when watching him preach is "yuck".

Many people were saved saying a Sinner's Prayer. Who are we to limit how God can save the lost? People should not be so arrogant in their theories... God is not limited to one method to save a person.
 
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Not sure why this is in the 'Junk Drawer'. The issue is quite important.

"Just accept Jesus" is not the Gospel.
"I walked the aisle" is not the way to salvation.
"I was baptized by the Church" is not saving grace.
 
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Not sure why this is in the 'Junk Drawer'. The issue is quite important.
"Just accept Jesus" is not the Gospel.
"I walked the aisle" is not the way to salvation.
"I was baptized by the Church" is not saving grace.
What about
"Enter ye the narrow gate"?

You enter a gate once.
 
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Yes, Jesus is the Gate/Door...and?
I fail to see how that is different then "Just accept Jesus".

Accepting Jesus is entering the door. Most people do not understand in depth theology, let alone people who are uneducated and such. So "Just accept Jesus" can very easily be the gospel to a lost person.

The name Jesus is not empty... it is filled with meaning and even hearing or reading his name is powerful.
 
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I fail to see how that is different then "Just accept Jesus".




Accepting Jesus is entering the door. Most people do not understand in depth theology, let alone people who are uneducated and such. So "Just accept Jesus" can very easily be the gospel to a lost person.

The name Jesus is not empty... it is filled with meaning and even hearing or reading his name is powerful.

Once again we need to remember the story of Nicodemus when he asked of Jesus what must one do to be born again.

Did Jesus said that it was a work of the Holy Spirit, like the wind and we have no control over it?

That cause some concern with the sinner's prayer? Could Jesus not have said, just say this little prayer with me?

I wish it was but, it is not that easy.

Note many have been called around the same time in which they did the sinner's prayer but, it was not the sinner's prayer that saved them.

It is not a work of man, it is totally a work of God.

Some Bibles say that God calls us and some Bible translations say that God woos us.

The more true word would be God drags us.

We should remember Paul when he was blinded and knocked off of his donkey. That is some serious dragging going on there!

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I fail to see how that is different then "Just accept Jesus".

Accepting Jesus is entering the door. Most people do not understand in depth theology, let alone people who are uneducated and such. So "Just accept Jesus" can very easily be the gospel to a lost person.

The name Jesus is not empty... it is filled with meaning and even hearing or reading his name is powerful.
If it's 'just accept Jesus', it leads to questions...
Who is Jesus?
Why should I accept Jesus?
What's wrong with what I am now? etc.

To fill in the blanks..
Jesus is the Son of God who became man and died for your sins and rose from the dead. In your sinful condition, if you die you will go to Judgment and be found guilty and be sentenced to eternal damnation. God commands us to repent and believe in His Son to receive the free GIFT of eternal life.

So there is a bit more than "Jesus loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life..."just accept Jesus". (that was my point).
 
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The gospel best when --

Can't give them the Good News.
Until given the bad news.

My grandparents and parents watched a lot of Billy Graham when I was young. In a way he reminds me of Paul Washer.

M-Bob
 
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I fail to see how that is different then "Just accept Jesus".

Accepting Jesus is entering the door. Most people do not understand in depth theology, let alone people who are uneducated and such. So "Just accept Jesus" can very easily be the gospel to a lost person.

The name Jesus is not empty... it is filled with meaning and even hearing or reading his name is powerful.


Well if by accepting Jesus, you mean that you personally placed your trust in teh death, burial and physical resurrection of Jesus for the full and only satisfactory payment for your sins, then yes accpeting Jesus is just fine!
 
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Well if by accepting Jesus, you mean that you personally placed your trust in teh death, burial and physical resurrection of Jesus for the full and only satisfactory payment for your sins, then yes accpeting Jesus is just fine!
Mhmm and I'm sure a poor prostitute who cries our "Jesus please save me" understands the theology of this in full does she?

This is why God is so good, he comes to the meek and lowly and typically not for the wise of this world. Humilates the proud and those wise in their own sight.

But we'll just agree to disagree.
 
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It is written that we are to "examine" ourselves. In addition, we are admonished by Jesus Himself that we are to "pick up our cross" and "follow Him". The "picking up our cross" is, in part, crucifying our flesh, which is encompassed by our own stubborn egos and our very deeply "rooted and uber-stubborn "self-will", burying it, and giving it a headstone so it doesn't raise its ooooogly head again.

It is also connected to the "fear of the Lord", which it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God and to truly "know" Him without it.

There is a "wisdom" required to truly "know" God. And this wisdom is spoken of here:

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Pr 9:10

As it is written, we can have only One Master. It is HIS will that must prevail, and not "ours". Obedience is what God seeks, and there is NO obedience without first laying our lives down (via that stubborn and rebellious "self-will") and crucifying it.

We cannot claim that the living God is our Master, if we are our own "little gods". (Sound familiar? Who was it that said in the beginning that he would be as God and sit the throne of the Most High? Well it was as Jesus called him, the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning. And he was called murderer for good reason. because the only way to "de-throne" the living God would've been, at least this created being's mind, was to "murder" God. However he forgot that it is God Who IS Creator, and he, a "created" being. This being had an "Achilles Heel", so to speak. It was his own self-will and pride. It is the same for man. Our own pride and self-wills prompt us to want to be our own "little gods".)

And the last thing a prideful, self-willed, created being (whether man or Lucifer, re-named Satan as in "adversary" wants is to "fear" the living God, and thus "bow down to Him".

Thus the wisdom of this powerfully incisive and convicting and soul-and-heart searching treasure of a verse:

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." ~Pr 9:10
 
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