yeshuaslavejeff
simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
As written,How do the few get redeemed?
by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
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As written,How do the few get redeemed?
Could you post more detail?As written,
by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB.
No.Could you post more detail?
How do I receive the blood of the lamb?
I found the Father many years ago.No.
Desperately seek the Father whose kingdom is at hand.
Whatever is written, whatever truly is revealed by the Father,I found the Father many years ago.
I was trying to find out what YOU believe.
No problem....
Well Y,Whatever is written, whatever truly is revealed by the Father,
that is what I believe, no problem.
Well Y,
From being on these sites, I've found that not all Christians believe the same teachings of Christ.
So, now, when someone says something to mean, I feel that I really need to understand what they're saying or we could be misunderstanding each other.
Misunderstanding is standard for people, especially on anonymous internet sites where whether someone is older or younger, well or sick (mentally or physically), alone or with others, etc etc etc is unknown almost all the time.Well Y,
From being on these sites, I've found that not all Christians believe the same teachings of Christ.
So, now, when someone says something to mean, I feel that I really need to understand what they're saying or we could be misunderstanding each other.
I tend to trust people.Misunderstanding is standard for people, especially on anonymous internet sites where whether someone is older or younger, well or sick (mentally or physically), alone or with others, etc etc etc is unknown almost all the time.
ie. don't put any weight on anything just because someone posts it, even if you agree with it. Total false credentials are used by the enemy in just such ways to deceive multitudes.
We (many ) were RAISED as little children , trained, TO TRUST PEOPLE. But that is ungodly, unrighteous, wrong, and dangerous.I tend to trust people.
Take them at their word....
I've never considered what you're stating above.
I try to be honest with everyone...but yes, I have noticed that many times there are misunderstandings...
Oh. I agree about puttingn our trust in man for our spiritual well-being.We (many ) were RAISED as little children , trained, TO TRUST PEOPLE. But that is ungodly, unrighteous, wrong, and dangerous.
Yahuweh even says someplace: "whoever trusts in man , I Myself Curse" (even believers who put their trust in man/ in the flesh/ are often (or may be) cursed until they repent)
It’s the same. But what I DO NOT believe is that we are pre made to believe
Faith comes by hearing. Justification is by faith, not election.Q1. If God has already elected those who are going to heaven, then why evangelize and why all the scriptures and the gospel commission to take the Gospel to the world?
No.Q2. If God predestined the saved and the unsaved, then according to your view, did God create sin?
The non-elect are condemned because they’ve sinned against God, not because they aren’t elect.Q3. If God predestined salvation, then why eternally condemn the non-elect? After all, it is not their fault according to your view because they have been predestined to be damned. If you believe this how can your God be a loving God?
Your response...LGW wrote: Q1. If God has already elected those who are going to heaven, then why evangelize and why all the scriptures and the gospel commission to take the Gospel to the world?
Faith comes by hearing. Justification is by faith, not election.
Your response...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Q2. If God predestined the saved and the unsaved, then according to your view, did God create sin?
Then how can God predestine the unsaved? You cannot have the unsaved without sin.
Your response...LoveGodsWord said: ↑ Q3. If God predestined salvation, then why eternally condemn the non-elect? After all, it is not their fault according to your view because they have been predestined to be damned. If you believe this how can your God be a loving God?
But according to your view God predestined the saved and unsaved. Are you contradicting yourself here brother?The non-elect are condemned because they’ve sinned against God, not because they aren’t elect.
It did answer. Maybe you thought you had a “gotcha” question and I’m not playing along.Your response...
This answer does not make any sense brother if the unsaved are already predetermined to be lost. How does this answer the question? As posted earlier
according to this thinking (believing that everyone is predestined lost or saved) the saved are already saved and the lost are already lost so nothing will effect the outcome. This disagrees with all the scriptures posted to you earlier (see post # 285 and others). Foreknowledge does not imply predestination of the saved and unsaved *ROMANS 8:29-30. If God predestined everything, then there is no use in praying for your friends or family yet we are told to pray for others *JAMES 5:16; 1 TIMOTHY 2:1; JOB 42:10; MATTHEW 5:43-45; 1 TIMOTHY 2:1-3. In your view, God has already predestined salvation so no appealing to God will likely change his mind- it has already been predestined and cannot be changed.
Your response to Q1 does not answer the question.
I don’t understand what you are asking. You believe we are all sinners, correct.Your response...
Then how can God predestine the unsaved? You cannot have the unsaved without continuance in sin.